Women who find muscles attractive!

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I don't know what you are referring towards but people who earn over £35'000 a year have to pay 40% tax so if even you earned £50'000 a year, you would only see about £30'000 a year. Even if a tradesman charge £15 an hour and works an 8 hour day, that's between £700-800 a week depend on if he works 5 or 6 days.

So let's work it out.
Average Businessman who earns £50'000 a year, 40% tax = £30'000
Average Tradesman who earns just under £35'000 a year, 20% tax = £28'000
Tradesman who works 6 days a week, £40'000, 40% tax = £20'000

The tradesman who works five days a week is better off than the tradesman that works six days a week.

Technically the tradesman who charges £15 an hour is going to get more clients than the tradesman who charges £50 an hour but the tradesman on £15 could eventually charge £200 for 8 hours and earn £1200 a week but even so, that's £60'000 a year.

However 40% of that would still be taxed so he would only earn £36'000 a year. Only the biggest and best tradesmen in the game can afford to charge £60-£100 an hour and still get a lot of clients. Most people who charge that type of money won't hire you twice or recommend you to anyone if you don't do a spectacular job.

If you aren't a doctor, dentist, businessman, lawyer or athlete, you better be bloody good at a trade if you expect to earn on the higher end towards a hundred thousand.

and now we are at money. How is this not surprising.

Yeah. Money, whatever. This thread is about arguing about sexy guys. Lean towards pretty skinny boys, but some bigger ones can be nice too, especially with long hair. Thought Steele was sexy back in the day.

You don't necessarily need money to be attractive, once again it's the confidence it brings. If driving around a BMW brings you as much confidence as having a muscular body, of course you are going to act more confidently which can be attractive.

Thats true, my bmw does give me a lot more confidence than being your size would give me.

...and it seems the quickest way to strong confidence is overinflated ego and narcissism, which inevitably leads to the argument that "women like jerks" - because they're attracted to his confidence (before later being repulsed by him being a self-centered jerk - but an oh-so sexy jerk.)

I think that's why bullies target confidence... squash that, you eliminate competition in all aspects of life.

In your country, I think working people may have it better. They are basically dirt and trash in the U.S. The right-wing manipulates them over social issues like abortion, and the left-wing scorns them as hicks and rubes. I think, in your country, Labour and, to an extent, Lib Dems have a blue collar base. Everybody hates white working people in the U.S, especially blue collar men. Everybody. Trust me, I came from such a background too. And the types of women who would be attracted to an aspie anyway probably like having intellectual conversations and probably like my Italian boots and cashmere jacket over some construction worker's denim jacket and work boots, even though I look more like Justin Bieber. I did competitive swimming before, and I think, when I had that body type, it was absolutely perfect. I'm currently trying to get back there to do some triathlons.

It's not just about money. It's probably *more* about image and personality. Someone like Brad Pitt is ideal though. Well-dressed, educated, and ripped all over, not just excessively in some places and with a beer belly, like blue collar.

Justin Bieber is also really young. For his age, I'd say he has a good look. It gets much easier to bulk up for some guys in their mid 20's. I don't see what's wrong with just being fit, toned, and buff. You don't have to be absolutely excessively huge in order to look good. I think Schwarzenegger in the first two Terminators has a good look also. Yeah, he's muscular, and looks awesome, but it's not excessive or imbalanced like some people seem to advocate.

I still don't understand why we are comparing a 18 year old to a 40+ year old in terms of body size and what 'Girls want' .. the thing is most girls the same age as the Beibz, aren't really fans of his.. he's rabidly popular with LITTLE girls in the "Tween" category... Same with the Hanson kids of yesteryear and the Jonas Brothers and all of those groups.

Just about the only people I come across that like his music apart from my cousins who are all little.. are their parents who are all in their 30's and 40's.

South Park, as usual, sent this up excellently...

Tattoos are widely accepted in the United Kingdom and the UK is very liberal. Soap dramas and television shows are generally about working class families. Some countries may not be as diverse, open minded or democratic as the United Kingdom but that's simply because they aren't as advanced as us yet, the United States will eventually become as advanced as the United Kingdom if they overlook prejudice and division.

People are generally more liberal and accepting towards one another here and the UK is the best place in the world for democracy. Upper class people don't tend to win on reality TV shows for the simple reason that the British Public don't tend to vote "posh" contestants into the final.

As far as women go, they find all types of things attractive as they are individuals and I certainly wouldn't want to associate myself with someone who generalized or held prejudice views against a certain group of people.

Again I don't care what background people are from, plenty of people I inspire me came from poor backgrounds. Nelson Mandela went into prison for 27 years in a country full of apartheid and racism yet he came out preaching forgiveness and tolerance. To me to find such virtue in a place like a South African prison and to come out to be a Prime Minister is very powerful so you can preach your hate but you need to realize that it is wrong to generalize.

That first paragraph is funny as hell. First it glorifies one nation (yours) then you go and bash another nation and then hope they stop being prejudiced. Considering you just did a lot of prejudiced bashing yourself. Look whos advanced now.

So a place that has been a theocracy for most of its existence and which still has a singular diety in charge is the best democracy?

you change your tune too much dude. its starting to get conflicting every time you talk. First you have advice that will work on all women and now you're talking about individual thought. two completely different sides of a coin

I still wish some women would answer my question about the weightlifter physique vs bodybuilding one. How about gymnasts, do women here think gymnasts are hot?

I'm not stating an opinion, it's a fact that the United Kingdom ruled most of the world and is very advanced. I'm not saying that everybody from the United States judges or generalizes. I'm saying there are certain individuals who claim to represent the United States yet instead represent their own ignorance.

The Queen does not run the country from Buckingham Palace, the country is run from the houses of Parliament and new laws or regulations have to placed through the houses of parliament which is a democracy that the people vote for.

I didn't claim my advice would work on all women, nobody has a high enough success to rejection rate to boast that claim. I'm saying certain attributes can help and be beneficial when it comes to initial attraction and presentation.

Thats not what the top quote says. It is a generalization about americans, followed by you whining about generalizations. Im sure the british islands is also full of ignorant people claiming to represent all of the uk. Do you really not see it or are you ignoring it?

You still have a higher power over parliament. Not balanced branches of government. Lets consider the american government for example was built to overcome the weak spots in the oppressive british government of the time. Neither the UK or USA are good examples of a real democracy.

thats not how i recall it, your old pua advice just likke 99% of pua advice was full of rejectionless openers and crap of the sort.

I'm hoping one day I'll be squatting a ton of weight at the gym and a girl will see me and be like "I wanna have his children" and then we live happily ever after.