Women are not attracted to me because I'm not 'masculine'?

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30 Mar 2013, 12:57 pm

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I've always been attracted to "feminine" men as well. I don't like beards or body hair and I greatly prefer a slim physique. I've actually even had crushes on actual gay guys. :shrug:


Being gay has nothing to do with being slim and hairless. In fact you'll find most gay men are hairy and muscular (i.e. bear).



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30 Mar 2013, 5:13 pm

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So many words, so little communication.
...and so many excuses for doing whatever the hell one wants with no regard for others.

I said they weren't ideal circumstances and situations, I have accepted that my behaviour played a part in that but I am ready to grow and learn from it.

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30 Mar 2013, 5:18 pm

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Maybe these online female friends of yours just prefer a more masculine appearence a lot of females like more feminine looking guys. I mean that is their opinion doesn't mean its nessisarily true of all females or that no female would ever be interested. I mean maybe you've known them for 3 years but if you only know them online they can't possibly know if that's the reason.

Guess what I am saying is perhaps take it with a grain of salt, and trying to over-compensate for a percieved lack of masculinity is probably more of a turn off than a more feminine appearance but that's just my opinion.


Love it!!


On that note, where are the women on this forum wanting be rescued by a bearded muscular rough, ready and rugged who isn't bothered that his hair isn't straight? Or is vain Bieber boy an idea of a modern day hero for girls.



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30 Mar 2013, 5:30 pm

Women don't want or need a hero rescuing them. They want a guy that's likes them for who they are and loves them who they can have the same for.
That said why do you want someone who likes you because she feels she owes you?



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30 Mar 2013, 6:43 pm

So even if roids might make my goatee and mustache connect, I think I'll pass because I'm afraid I could go bald like Serge Redding from excess DHT.

Besides, I think the more facial hair I have, the "creepier" girls consider me. Gotta save the beard for my 30s I guess.



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30 Mar 2013, 6:56 pm

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Wolf, that's not the first chat log with Courtney you have shared with us here and you have been asked to stop many enough times. You're not the only person with admirers here and most people here would give you more respect for yours if they didn't run away after meeting you IRL.

You are seriously telling a girl what she is supposed to like as a girl? :P My attraction is out of your control I'm afraid.

And yes, the guy you posted is hot :heart: I can't see the competitor, but if he is scruffy with beard and chest hair, I'll pass, thank you.


Nice try Lilya but they still let me do intimate and sexual things to them which was right for the guy I was last year, as for the hotel girl, she left because I started ignoring her texts and making plans with another girl and as for her, she left because I started having sex with a gamer girl mate and I have no idea why she left but she gave good oral. I might have not shared thousands of girls like "mystery" claims to have but he's not on the spectrum. As long as the girl let me get intimate with them because I could hide my indifference but only for so long, nothing else mattered and if Courtney and me do become an item, I won't hurt her because my mindset has changed, my goal last year was just getting sex through dating sites and I did that but now i'm ready to start taking things more serious and you've got to give me a chance and believe in me, Lilya.


So you're not a virgin and have in fact used a number of girls just for sex. Congratulations. All that detail was really unnecessary and not a pleasant reading.

I am glad, though that for once, you actually ADMIT that you have acted wrong. And if it's true that you have left steroids and seek help, I do support that and wish the very best with it.

However, everything about your new found journey to become a better person is nothing but sweet words and manipulation unless you actually start to live as you preach. Within one week alone for several times you have done everything you have been strongly discouraged to do and there's been absolutely no sign in you having become better other than your own words, not to mention that you are still more than keen to make up excuses after another.

There is no use asking for mine or anyone else's forgiveness until you show in your acts and not words that you are working for the change.


You have your background and I have mine, you walk in your shoes as I do in mine.

I admit that I was wrong to think the sex was the difference between a boy and a man and I was wrong to assume that steroids were the way to reach that potential but I am taking small steps in the right direction. Taking those steps to be free from drugs and free from negative energies aren't going to be easy but I'm confident in positivity, in my business and in what I can achieve. I want to be able to do what I love, be valued for creativity and strength whilst providing a service to people and making an honest living so to me, that's a good start and action as any.

Second to that, I need to find a mutual trust, understanding and respect with a willing partner, one girl said that when a girl I truly love comes along that I will be faithful to her because I will love her so much. Situations can be handled in a more tactful way as opposed to being sharp or hurtful, I need to remain true to myself and towards girls in what they value.

I learned to judge people by individual merit a long time ago and I realized people are gifted in different areas. I think strength can be found anywhere, strength doesn't just come from lifting heavy weights, it can be found in the person who takes a stand against something unjust, a single mother raising her child or even a person just expressing their beliefs in the face of persecution.



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30 Mar 2013, 7:13 pm

It is in our most challenging moments that our character is truly tested..I have realized that staying strong is something we must do at all times, not when it suits us, just like being mature..

For instance, someone like Oscar Pistorius must have been an inspiration to millions of people because he overcame his disability and became a true inspiration but in one moment, something changed all of that. I don't know if it was a test of his character or an accident because that is yet to be proven..



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30 Mar 2013, 7:19 pm

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It is in our most challenging moments that our character is truly tested..I have realized that staying strong is something we must do at all times, not when it suits us, just like being mature..

For instance, someone like Oscar Pistorius must have been an inspiration to millions of people because he overcame his disability and became a true inspiration but in one moment, something changed all of that. I don't know if it was a test of his character or an accident because that is yet to be proven..


You are comparing yourself to a murderer?


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30 Mar 2013, 7:19 pm

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Women don't want or need a hero rescuing them.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeqso4CX2f4[/youtube]

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30 Mar 2013, 7:31 pm

Tequila wrote:
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Women don't want or need a hero rescuing them.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeqso4CX2f4[/youtube]

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Yeah. I own my own home, my own car. I work 40 hours a week. Manage to go on several vacations a year. Some with some without my 2 kids. I dont need to be rescued. Do I want someone to share my life and things I have with? Certainly. But no rescuing will be involved.

And forgive me, but when did this thread turn into a "Journey into self" episode. I'm sure if I should go along with that or continue on the original topic. :roll:



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30 Mar 2013, 7:34 pm

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Maybe these online female friends of yours just prefer a more masculine appearence a lot of females like more feminine looking guys. I mean that is their opinion doesn't mean its nessisarily true of all females or that no female would ever be interested. I mean maybe you've known them for 3 years but if you only know them online they can't possibly know if that's the reason.

Guess what I am saying is perhaps take it with a grain of salt, and trying to over-compensate for a percieved lack of masculinity is probably more of a turn off than a more feminine appearance but that's just my opinion.


Love it!!


On that note, where are the women on this forum wanting be rescued by a bearded muscular rough, ready and rugged who isn't bothered that his hair isn't straight? Or is vain Bieber boy an idea of a modern day hero for girls.


Apparently where the OP lives.

I think for me, a big problem is I'm confusing. I look pretty masculine but then people think I'm gay, and it's not helped by my musical tastes and stuff. Meh.



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30 Mar 2013, 7:35 pm

I am saying a good image can be destroyed in a second, these good deeds you do and values you have nothing if you don't truly live them, just the same as Tiger Woods or Arnold Schwarzenegger with their live affairs, the good they have done doesn't exempt them from the bad.

That's why I have integrity, i'm not breaking the law and anyone who knows me knows how good and gentle I am with children and animals but I accept I have been a rogue at times. I don't need to cast stones or hide who I am, what you see is what you get with me, I have never claimed to be a saint.



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30 Mar 2013, 7:43 pm

Those great athletes were heroes to me, to overcome their struggles but when I found out about the scandals they were involved in, I was truly horrified and that's why i'm going to be different, i'm going to lay all cards on the table, good and bad so people have no illusions.



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30 Mar 2013, 7:52 pm

And what does that have to do with masculine or femenine men?



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30 Mar 2013, 7:57 pm

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and that's why i'm going to be different


It hasn't exactly been the best start for you, to be fair.

Wolfheart wrote:
i'm going to lay all cards on the table, good and bad so people have no illusions.


Being less wordy and less defensive and eloquent about your wrongdoings might help with that. You come across as manipulative and fraudful rather than transparent when you do so.

Once again, good luck...


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30 Mar 2013, 8:03 pm

As the Bible says, "There's none righteous." There's also quite a lot about being humble. Obviously, nobody is going to reach the pinnacle of Biblical excellence regarding humility. Everyone is all full of pride. To a point, this is part of being human and kept in check isn't neccessarily bad. We should feel proud of good things we do and accomplish.

However, dangerous pride, is the presumptuousness you have. You see men who literally are the "greatest" men around, who've achieved lots of great things and still have their major shortcomings (as in Arnold and Pistorius's case.) The root of all their evils and what brought them down wasn't lack of analytical planning, it was pride. You're proposing you'll be better than everyone else in the past simply because you're smarter? Besides being prideful, presupposing you're smarter than men who've achieved much more than you, it's not even logical because they're probably smarter because they achieved more.

As I told you before, Abraham Lincoln said this:

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Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.