if a guy sleeps with 100 ugly women is he an alpha?

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10 May 2013, 3:42 am

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Why would you be impressed? Do you have any idea how easy it is for women to get laid? Especially by ugly guys? You just smile and there they are.


Im talking about women who had sex with 100 men who are not escorts, porn stars, use sex ads, swingers, go to sex club, take part of orgy, or
play the aggressive role but only play the passive role. ( is it even possible?)

basically they wait for men to ask them out.


I honestly think that if a girl wanted to do it with 100 different guys, without being the aggressor, she could. If any girl goes to just a regular bar and sits at the bar by herself and watches the band or something and is drinking her drink, and she's there for a couple hours to watch the show, she will get hit on by at least 4 or 5 guys. She doesn't even have to be very pretty, just clean and with her hair and makeup done so she looks like she makes an effort with her appearance.

Years ago, like maybe 20 years ago, when my husband would go out of town on the weekend to visit his parents and take our son and I had to stay home because I worked on the weekends I would be bored at night sometimes and go to the Nick to watch whichever band was playing. The Nick is not a sex club or anything like that, it's just a regular bar that has a live band on the weekend. I'd sit at the bar to watch the band and wait to see if maybe somebody I know came in and talk to them, and I'd get hit on almost every single time. There were times that I didn't but most of the time some guy would come up to me and start to talk to me and I'd start talking to them back and it took me a few minutes to realize that they didn't just want to talk about the band so I'd have to awkwardly tell them that I wasn't in the game, not there for a hook up, just to chill and watch the band but they were welcome to talk to me if they wanted. They usually did not. I wasn't dressed up either. I mean, it was the Nick. I wore jeans and a tshirt and tennis shoes. I had on normal makeup and usually had my hair pulled back. One thing about me though is that I have never worn a wedding ring. I used to when we first got married, but rings kind of bother me anyway and I was working at the hospital at that time and in the unit you had to take off your rings and pin them to your scrubs, so instead of that I would just leave it at home. I haven't worn one since and don't even have one anymore except for a cheap imitation one I bought myself at Wal Mart a while back because I thought I should probably wear one since other married girls do. I still don't wear it.

I'm sure that if I wanted to, even at my age, I could probably reach that number. I'm no beauty queen but it doesn't take much effort to be a slut, and that's really all I'd have to do. I don't want to do that and I can't imagine trying for that anyway. I only ever did anything similar to that once, and this was back when I was 17. I had already had sex and a bf for two years and broke up with him by then, and I really had the hots for this one guy who was part of the group I hung around in. My two best girlfriends had moved away and the only good friend I still had around was this guy. Me and him were pretty much best friends and I was "one of the guys" to him and we would sit around and talk and all like he does with guys. Well, I told him about me liking Chuck (not his real name) and he told me that Chuck was too shy to do anything and I'd never get anywhere with him. This was early spring when we had that conversation and I told him I bet that I could get Chuck in the sack by the end of the summer. We put money on it and shook on it. Thus began my pursuit of Chuck.

We rode around in my car and I'd laugh at his jokes. I'd let him pick the music we listened to. We would go to Krystal and sit there for hours and gorge ourselves on Krystal burgers. I'd sit in his room and listen to him play his guitar and tell him he was good. We would get some liquor and sneak down to his basement and get wasted and pass out. This went on for months. I'd try to sneak in some hand holding, but that didn't work. I tried wearing revealing clothing but that didn't work. One day, finally, we were in his room and his dad had left and it was just us, and he was very, very shy like I said. He was all nervous and didn't know where to look and couldn't sit still and he said he wanted to kiss me. AHA! So I said ok that I wanted him to kiss me, and he did and then he said "Oh God I can't do this, I'm sorry, you gotta go!" so I left. That was the only time anything like that ever happened. From what I hear he was a virgin till he was like 30 or something. He's straight too. Lots of girls had the hots for him and he couldn't hang out with them because they approached him like regular prey lol. He couldn't deal with that so being like a friend was the way I had to do that. It did not work though, so I paid up my money at the end of the summer.

But for real, any girl who wants to sleep with 100 guys pretty much can. Just go to the right places, smile, pretend to be interested in what they are talking about, laugh at their jokes, flirt, be agreeable, and there you go. You don't even have to be the one to come on to them. My best friend is pretty slu*ty (she even admits it) and she's done it with about that many. I'm not kidding. She will do it with anybody pretty much, especially back when she was on that sh**. I would honestly rather keep my number low, and I pretty much have so far and so therefore will from now on, but I know if I wanted to, I could.


ETA; You really only have to give them an opening - no pun intended. A couple of years ago when DH and I were having the worst of our problems, I would post on FB about the drama and how I wanted to get away from him. If I posted something like "OMG I have got to get away from him but I don't have anywhere to go!" just posting that as a comment, not fishing or anything, I would get 3 or 4 PM's with guys on my friends list saying "I'll come get you". Uh, no. That's not what I meant. Now, tonight I posted something about running away from home. That was an inside joke with another friend of mine and nobody has sent any PM's like that at all. I also have a much smaller friends list now than I did back then. I only have people on there now that I actually want to talk to. I don't friend people just to get a bigger number anymore. But that's exactly the way it started with Ole Boy. Facebook.


So OliveMom, what about the guy who slept with 100 women (regardless how they look like)? Can any guy reach that number if he wants to? (I know the answer but I am curious about your insight).


Thanks to women slut-shaming each other, I know the answer to this also.



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10 May 2013, 5:51 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So OliveMom, what about the guy who slept with 100 women (regardless how they look like)? Can any guy reach that number if he wants to? (I know the answer but I am curious about your insight).


It probably depends on where he goes, how many other guys are around and lots of other factors. It's probably more difficult for guys though. I think that's because guys usually have a higher and more urgent sex drive than girls do. That's why I think it's probably much easier for girls, we just have to give in, they have to talk us into it. There are plenty of women out there with high and urgent sex drives, who like casual sex as much as most guys do, and that's perfectly ok, it's just a matter of locating them.

I think perception has a lot to do with it. In our culture p*ssy is seen as very valuable and a precious commodity so those of us who have it can pick and choose who to give it out to. D*ck is seen as something that is out there for the taking, and usually that's correct. I think it's all learned behavior. If guys were to suddenly stop screwing anything that moves (a figure of speech, don't jump on me!) and women were to start pursuing guys more aggressively, it would be the other way around within two generations.

It's all about perception.


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10 May 2013, 7:58 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
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Ever notice the double standard for having many sexual partners? If a guy has sex with a bunch of girls, the he's "the man". If a girl has sex with a bunch of guys, then she's a filthy slut.


Believe it or not, that double standard was created mainly by women to be used vs other women. The degradation and shaming of the label 'slut' is a social protective counter-measure against the women who would be sleeping with 'their' men and steal them or take resources away from the children they've had with the guy.

Next time pay attention to which 'side' uses the term more often and in what context. Guys will use it in a descriptive manner (say, to point out an 'easy' girl) while women use it to shame and perform character assassination against another woman.


To be honest, I am more impress if a woman* has sleep with 100 guys than a guy who sleeps with a 100 women.
* ( excluding escorts and porn stars, and women who play the appproach roles)
the reason
A- men actually try to get laid and have a wide range of women they like
b- women usually wait around for a man to do all the approaching,
so if a woman can just sit around and is able to find enough ''stable'' men
to have sex with her, in my
book that is pretty good
c- but however, women with a high number of sex partners, I don't
know what percent of them only or mostly played the passive role
or how many played the aggresive role, or if it's an equal of both
d- and I don't include women who go to swingers club, sex club, use sex ads on the internet.

e- but for the women who are mostly or only play the passive role.
the one's with high number of partners, must be less picky than
the average women. because alot of women complain about having creepy guys
hitting on them.

so, in the end I am more impress with a women who only or mostly plays
the passive role that can get alot of sex partners
but not as much as women who mostly or only play the argessive role
or get sex from being escorts, going to swingers club,sex club, or from sex ads.


Why would you be impressed? Do you have any idea how easy it is for women to get laid? Especially by ugly guys? You just smile and there they are.


I think you're doing a disservice to all men who are considered less attractive

They still have standards of what they want in a woman and that includes not wanting women with annoying personalities

So I'd like to see you actually perform this feat before I believe it as I'd never be this presumptuous or arrogant

You sound like you think you'd be doing these 'ugly men' some massive favour whereas I'd say not



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10 May 2013, 8:00 am

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If guys were to suddenly stop screwing anything that moves (a figure of speech, don't jump on me!) and women were to start pursuing guys more aggressively, it would be the other way around within two generations.


.... and then girls would start complaining on WP more than guys.

That would be a dream!! :lol:

But seriously, things should be switched.
In another thread, a link to an article was posted about how guys should approach women without appearing as potential rapists/harassers and it also mentions mentions.

Since the risk of rape/harassment is getting that high, therefore paranoia from both sides (from guys fearing to be accused and women afraid from rape risk) wouldn't make more sense if the norm becomes women pursuing guys?



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10 May 2013, 8:07 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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If guys were to suddenly stop screwing anything that moves (a figure of speech, don't jump on me!) and women were to start pursuing guys more aggressively, it would be the other way around within two generations.


.... and then girls would start complaining on WP more than guys.

That would be a dream!! :lol:

But seriously, things should be switched.
In another thread, a link to an article was posted about how guys should approach women without appearing as potential rapists/harassers and it also mentions mentions.

Since the risk of rape/harassment is getting that high, therefore paranoia from both sides (from guys fearing to be accused and women afraid from rape risk) wouldn't make more sense if the norm becomes women pursuing guys?


All men have to do is stop pursuing and sit back - then the women wil come to them more

Some women do pursue men anyway - you get female stalkers just as you do male

If men stopped pursuing women it would be good as all these women who think they're God's gift to men would be
taken down a peg or two - as they deserve to be

I can't abide women who think they only have to enter a room for men to form a queue

They must indeed have looks as their personalities certainly aren't doing it for them!



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10 May 2013, 8:47 am

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If you look at religious texts, such as the Bible (written mostly by men), the same stigma shows up.


In the old testament, a man is forced by God to marry a prostitute, and ends up having an extremely happy marriage. There is also a part of the old testament that involves a woman named Rehab , who is a prostitute, who is saved by God fro the falling walls of Jericho ('and the walls came tumbling down"), because she knew her city was bad news and helped the Israelite spies escape capture. God certainly doesn't abandon these women, so the term actually is viewed with much less shagrin in The Holy Bible as say, The Qur'an, which says prostitutes are demons.


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10 May 2013, 9:10 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So OliveMom, what about the guy who slept with 100 women (regardless how they look like)? Can any guy reach that number if he wants to? (I know the answer but I am curious about your insight).


It probably depends on where he goes, how many other guys are around and lots of other factors. It's probably more difficult for guys though. I think that's because guys usually have a higher and more urgent sex drive than girls do. That's why I think it's probably much easier for girls, we just have to give in, they have to talk us into it. There are plenty of women out there with high and urgent sex drives, who like casual sex as much as most guys do, and that's perfectly ok, it's just a matter of locating them.

I think perception has a lot to do with it. In our culture p*ssy is seen as very valuable and a precious commodity so those of us who have it can pick and choose who to give it out to. D*ck is seen as something that is out there for the taking, and usually that's correct. I think it's all learned behavior. If guys were to suddenly stop screwing anything that moves (a figure of speech, don't jump on me!) and women were to start pursuing guys more aggressively, it would be the other way around within two generations.

It's all about perception.


I have to agree with you, on average,women do have it easier to get sex than men do. But at the same time, alot of women ( and men) are not looking
to have a high number of sex partners, most people are looking for a LTR and not bunch of random one night stands.



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10 May 2013, 9:15 am

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I honestly think that if a girl wanted to do it with 100 different guys, without being the aggressor, she could. If any girl goes to just a regular bar and sits at the bar by herself and watches the band or something and is drinking her drink, and she's there for a couple hours to watch the show, she will get hit on by at least 4 or 5 guys. She doesn't even have to be very pretty, just clean and with her hair and makeup done so she looks like she makes an effort with her appearance.
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so pretty much, she would have to say yes to every man who ask her out and have sex with them and she can't ever be in a long term relationship either.


Not really.

Plenty of girls and males that Im familiar with go through periods of longterm dating and after that they hit the bars for one night stands for quite some time.
Since this is fairly common I assume that they all have some sort of success and they could all go through 100 people should they want to while turning to long term relationships once they get tired of one night stands.

The wonders of not having any sort of social awkwardness, they get to choose from a much bigger pool of people


well, the truth is the vast majority of population are not looking to have random casual sex. most people are usually in some kind of relationship.
I say the average person may have 1-3 random casual sex, but no where near 50's or even in the 100's
and of the casual sex what percent are with complete strangers, and what percent are with friends, ex, or someone they know.



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10 May 2013, 9:15 am

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Why would you be impressed? Do you have any idea how easy it is for women to get laid? Especially by ugly guys? You just smile and there they are.

Image "This way to the bedroom? I already gots me jammies on!" :P

You are too funny! If only I didn't have short hair. :wink:



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10 May 2013, 9:45 am

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You are too funny! If only I didn't have short hair. :wink:


Hey now, I never said I didn't like it! Just because my gut instinct prefers longer, some of those short-haired examples were still plenty cute! ;)

Now if only there was someone special within range... *chomp*
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10 May 2013, 10:02 am

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Now if only there was someone special within range... *chomp*
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So many people in the world, and so hard to meet someone . . .
With regard to playing the passive role - it can be hard to interpret. Women don't always go to bars to meet men. I like bars, but I find if I go alone I am quickly targeted. It's irritating because sometimes I just want to enjoy the ambiance. 'Course I suppose it depends on which bars you go to.



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10 May 2013, 10:04 am

Well you're both in Canada so why not meet up? :)

What's the distance between you and couldn't you meet somewhere in the middle?

It's 1,785 miles! 8O



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10 May 2013, 10:14 am

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Well you're both in Canada so why not meet up? :)

What's the distance between you and couldn't you meet somewhere in the middle?

It's 1,785 miles! 8O

I mapquested it - It's a day and a half's drive. But you never know when paths will cross.



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10 May 2013, 10:16 am

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Well you're both in Canada so why not meet up? :)

What's the distance between you and couldn't you meet somewhere in the middle?

It's 1,785 miles! 8O

I mapquested it - It's a day and a half's drive. But you never know when paths will cross.


Why leave it to chance?

Why not arrange a meetup of Canadian aspies?

There's a good project for someone!



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10 May 2013, 10:18 am

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Why not arrange a meetup of Canadian aspies?

There's a good project for someone!

There was a meetup last summer in Toronto. Canada is such a big country though - it's easier for smaller communities to organize locally.



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10 May 2013, 10:21 am

Ann2011 wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Why not arrange a meetup of Canadian aspies?

There's a good project for someone!

There was a meetup last summer in Toronto. Canada is such a big country though - it's easier for smaller communities to organize locally.


Yes but you have already made connections with people on WP so imo there's more currency in meeting them than some random aspie who happens to live locally

It's all about who you make a mental connection with