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05 Dec 2013, 5:27 pm

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toileting issues are a massive trigger for me. I may have to go and curl up in a ball or rock back and forth for half an hour now.

Why should anyone care if it bothers you? They're just feelings after all.

Right, MCalavera?



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05 Dec 2013, 5:28 pm

Americans and Brits, behold the Toilet Civilizations!

http://www.the-vu.com/2010/12/wash-don% ... your-butt/



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05 Dec 2013, 5:32 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
leafplant wrote:
toileting issues are a massive trigger for me. I may have to go and curl up in a ball or rock back and forth for half an hour now.

Why should anyone care if it bothers you? They're just feelings after all.

Right, MCalavera?


Depends on if it's a ploy or not. If not a ploy, I would obviously care if the feelings were to that extent.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:33 pm

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Well. If nothing else this thread certainly brought out exactly where everyone on this forum is in terms of social skills. Maybe we should use it as a reference point for future ones. :lol:


I'm sorry, but it's not possible for you to gauge social skill levels of anyone here just by checking this thread.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:35 pm

Well if they can't even grasp the point of a concept, it's a good bet they don't act on it IRL either.

That's something I've noticed, that those on here who gave high empathy (like myself) or those who are in the normal range do much better socially. And as you've said most of us still lack theory of mind, but we do have high affective empathy. That and being willing to learn and do some basic psych concepts seems to be the difference between those of us on here who date, maintain relationships, have friends and a social circle and those who don't on here.


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05 Dec 2013, 5:37 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
leafplant wrote:
toileting issues are a massive trigger for me. I may have to go and curl up in a ball or rock back and forth for half an hour now.

Why should anyone care if it bothers you? They're just feelings after all.

Right, MCalavera?


There's a huge difference between leaving the seat up and...... leaving poop in washing sinks.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:38 pm

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Well if they can't even grasp the point of a concept, it's a good bet they don't act on it IRL either.

That's something I've noticed, that those on here who gave high empathy (like myself) or those who are in the normal range do much better socially. And as you've said most of us still lack theory of mind, but we do have high affective empathy. That and being willing to learn and do some basic psych concepts seems to be the difference between those of us on here who date, maintain relationships, have friends and a social circle and those who don't on here.


It could also be confirmation bias on your part. Surely you're not that talented at detecting via online media what people are like IRL.

Also, I'm very sure my affective empathy isn't as bad as you make it out to be.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:40 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
leafplant wrote:
toileting issues are a massive trigger for me. I may have to go and curl up in a ball or rock back and forth for half an hour now.

Why should anyone care if it bothers you? They're just feelings after all.

Right, MCalavera?


Depends on if it's a ploy or not. If not a ploy, I would obviously care if the feelings were to that extent.

So if you were dating or roomates with someone like leafplant who was having some OCD/Aspie issues related to the toilet and toilet seat, you'd be willing to accomidate her simply because of her feelings. So before other people's feelings weren't a good enough reason.........Now they are? :?



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05 Dec 2013, 5:42 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
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leafplant wrote:
toileting issues are a massive trigger for me. I may have to go and curl up in a ball or rock back and forth for half an hour now.

Why should anyone care if it bothers you? They're just feelings after all.

Right, MCalavera?


Depends on if it's a ploy or not. If not a ploy, I would obviously care if the feelings were to that extent.

So if you were dating or roomates with someone like leafplant who was having some OCD/Aspie issues related to the toilet and toilet seat, you'd be willing to accomidate her simply because of her feelings. So before other people's feelings weren't a good enough reason.........Now they are? :?


We were initially discussing a situation where it was just a matter of feeling "offended". What leafplant is describing is beyond just normal feelings.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:43 pm

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Well if they can't even grasp the point of a concept, it's a good bet they don't act on it IRL either.

That's something I've noticed, that those on here who gave high empathy (like myself) or those who are in the normal range do much better socially. And as you've said most of us still lack theory of mind, but we do have high affective empathy. That and being willing to learn and do some basic psych concepts seems to be the difference between those of us on here who date, maintain relationships, have friends and a social circle and those who don't on here.


Well, let me translate this to you Maclavera.

What she's basically saying, that she and Geeko have partners because they're considerate, sensible and most importantly....understand the toilet seat thing.

While me and you are still single because we are insensitive jerks. We bad bad...boys.

You should admit she made a good correlation!! :lol:



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05 Dec 2013, 5:45 pm

I got the impression she was trying to put us down for being single in a subtle way, but whatever. I'm happy that I have a girl in my life whom I care quite a lot. So I may be single still, but that doesn't mean my life is dull romantically.

In fact, here are the three words she's described me as:

Funny, Intelligent, Caring



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05 Dec 2013, 5:50 pm

That post was primarily to geek, not you two, so there's no need to take personal offense. It's just a pattern I've noticed after spending a long while on these forums.

And whether I have a partner or not is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact that I've had enough before seems to piss some if the members around here off enough to the point that they accuse me of not being aspie so there's no need to add more fuel either way.


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05 Dec 2013, 5:51 pm

It does, however, look like you were implying us in your post as well.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:55 pm

MCalavera wrote:
I got the impression she was trying to put us down for being single in a subtle way, but whatever. I'm happy that I have a girl in my life whom I care quite a lot. So I may be single still, but that doesn't mean my life is dull romantically.

In fact, here are the three words she's described me as:

Funny, Intelligent, Caring


and I have a thing developing between me and a young lady, but still early to tell, we've been going out for two weekends.



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05 Dec 2013, 5:55 pm

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That post was primarily to geek, not you two, so there's no need to take personal offense. It's just a pattern I've noticed after spending a long while on these forums.

And whether I have a partner or not is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact that I've had enough before seems to piss some if the members around here off enough to the point that they accuse me of not being aspie so there's no need to add more fuel either way.


Nah, it was primarily to Geek, yes, but we are intellectually capable enough to decipher its secondary purpose.

And yes, some of us might got offended, you're a genuine jerk btw, this was also my psychoanalysis conclusion about you based on your posts in this thread.



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05 Dec 2013, 6:01 pm

I was speaking 50% about general social and friends and 50% about romantic related - if you actually look back at the post.

There are some here who do well compared to others and that's generally what I notice they have in common - empathy and smarts, with the ability to combine and apply the two. We have others here who have improved markedly by learning those same things - or by acquiring more knowledge and practise to improve or supplement what they already have. And we have others who continue to beat their heads against brick walls. I'm sure you can all think of a couple who fit into those categories.

I've been on here well over a year and was commenting on patterns that is noticed in that time. And I wasn't talking about you two specifically. In fact I couldn't really be talking about you MC, because you don't post often enough to even be able to gather accurate data in the matter.


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