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05 Feb 2014, 9:12 am

Fine, thing is, that I personally find it very offensive to imply that men get rape ideas due to lack of sex; there was once a female user said (I think it was you Ann) that men with no sex life have lower self-control and lower sense of what's wrong and right, I found this pretty offensive too.

I dunno where you get all those correlations, either you can read minds or I am not that sexual after all.



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05 Feb 2014, 9:24 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Fine, thing is, that I personally find it very offensive to imply that men get rape ideas due to lack of sex; there was once a female user said (I think it was you Ann) that men with no sex life have lower self-control and lower sense of what's wrong and right, I found this pretty offensive too.

Can you provide the reference for that. I'd like to know for sure.

I don't necessarily think that lack of sex will lead to rape thoughts, and don't think that plenty of sex leads to their absence.


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05 Feb 2014, 9:47 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Fine, thing is, that I personally find it very offensive to imply that men get rape ideas due to lack of sex; there was once a female user said (I think it was you Ann) that men with no sex life have lower self-control and lower sense of what's wrong and right, I found this pretty offensive too.

I dunno where you get all those correlations, either you can read minds or I am not that sexual after all.

There's an entire online movement built around this premise:
http://www.involuntarycelibacy.com/

One of the fundemental caviats is that sexual frustration and rejection by women is the root cause for most male violence (including rape and killing sprees.) I've even read stuff seriously arguing that the Sandy Hook and Colombine shootings would have been prevented if the popular pretty girls would have had sex with these creepers in highschool. Ironically enough, despite their claims being just about the most misandrist thing ever (men are just animals who can't control themselves around a skirt and cleavage) they are big in the men's rights movement.



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05 Feb 2014, 10:39 am

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Well being of other humans is not best served by people having these kinds of attitudes and thinking that's acceptable. Thanks for pointing out how much you disrespect Eastern European students. I hope when your trial comes around that you find yourself facing a judge who was that student once.


What trial? He hasn't committed any crime. The OP mentions having disturbing thoughts but he never acted on them.


Read his post on page 6.


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05 Feb 2014, 3:03 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Fine, thing is, that I personally find it very offensive to imply that men get rape ideas due to lack of sex; there was once a female user said (I think it was you Ann) that men with no sex life have lower self-control and lower sense of what's wrong and right, I found this pretty offensive too.

I dunno where you get all those correlations, either you can read minds or I am not that sexual after all.

There's an entire online movement built around this premise:
http://www.involuntarycelibacy.com/

One of the fundemental caviats is that sexual frustration and rejection by women is the root cause for most male violence (including rape and killing sprees.) I've even read stuff seriously arguing that the Sandy Hook and Colombine shootings would have been prevented if the popular pretty girls would have had sex with these creepers in highschool. Ironically enough, despite their claims being just about the most misandrist thing ever (men are just animals who can't control themselves around a skirt and cleavage) they are big in the men's rights movement.


I don't understand. I didn't read anything in your link that says that involuntary celibacy leads to male violence. In any case, the term was actually coined by an actual professor of sociology and it doesn't necessarily have the connotations that you're applying to it. It simply means anyone who has not engaged in sexual intercourse for reasons other than choice, that does not necessarily mean that men who are involuntarily celibate would be prone to thinking about rape. Also, the professor who coined the term, applied it to both genders, so women can be involuntary celibate too:

http://abchannel.lima-city.de/artikel/16-involuntary-celibacy-1.html



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05 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm

The OP never said that lack of sex leads to rape. The OP just said ever since he had sex, he has not had those episodes. He also said he prefers prostitutes that act as a girlfriend. He still isn't asking for rape stories as if they excite them.

All of these points lead me to believe he either had the beginnings of OCD, or that he had a possibility to become a predator but didn't.

God forbid people with OCD tell their thoughts here. I've had thoughts of brutally murdering someone. I've had thoughts about rape, raping people, molesting children, and others. Yet, I find these things horrible, similarly to how the OP finds rape horrible. Now, I've never calculated the risks of doing such a crime as the OP did, true. However, I DO know of people with OCD who were terrified of killing someone. These would be people they loved. I even knew a person with OCD who had obsessive thoughts about grabbing the knife, how they could do it, if they would get caught, etc. Naturally, this person was scared of themselves. They eventually never left their room for years until they received help.

Would this person have killed someone? Do rapists/murderers usually admit that they find the act disgusting? Even the rapists who rape using tools such as alcohol (which are a huge majority) seem to get excited when they talk about their acts.

It's far better to talk about these issues than to sweep them under the rug. True, love and dating isn't the best spot to discuss this. There are also rape victims here, and the OP was insensitive to both them* and possibly eastern asian students*. However, we have a person who not only thinks rape is horrible, but wanted to know if anyone else ever had this reaction. Like other abusers, rapists are usually manipulative and artificially charming so they aren't detected. This person has not acted like that. While we can speculate what his true intentions are, his words are reflecting that of a person who does not want to rape.

*I can see how some victims of rape would be offended by this post. How you word some things kind of implies lack of sex=men wanting to rape. However, I think it was more you didn't elaborate on that. I'm not offended here, I just can see how others would be. At the same time, you probably feel (because you were) verbally attacked and are trying to defend yourself.

*OP, people may have been freaking out about the eastern asian student thing because they thought you meant you would rape them. When you say student, a lot of very young female children are abused in these countries. They are raped and by sex tourists, and it goes unreported. If you mean university student and/or someone who is 16, you didn't specify, so people might assume younger and/or unwilling. I do admit, if you did mean any younger than 16 and/or forced, I would consider both of those rape. However, until I know what you meant, I will assume you meant legally of age and consenting because you said you prefer the girlfriend treatment type prostitution.



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05 Feb 2014, 8:25 pm

Rape scenes are fairly common in the BDSM scene, but they are negotiated by both parties first and limits are set and a safeword is used. Some people take it pretty far, even where the girl is fighting back and kicks and hits the guy. I knew a guy who was into BDSM and he was particularly fond of rape scenes and he liked them pretty heavy like that. However, he wouldn't ever actually rape anybody and never wanted to ACTUALLY rape a girl, he just liked having really rough sex where he held her down. He was an EMT and a fireman and had been on calls where somebody was actually raped and he said that the difference between real rape and a SM scene are night and day. In fact, in a rape scene, the girl can put a stop to it at any second just by saying the safe word.

About the original post though, urges to actually rape somebody aren't normal. I'd seriously get some help about that.


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05 Feb 2014, 9:58 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
Rape scenes are fairly common in the BDSM scene, but they are negotiated by both parties first and limits are set and a safeword is used. Some people take it pretty far, even where the girl is fighting back and kicks and hits the guy. I knew a guy who was into BDSM and he was particularly fond of rape scenes and he liked them pretty heavy like that. However, he wouldn't ever actually rape anybody and never wanted to ACTUALLY rape a girl, he just liked having really rough sex where he held her down. He was an EMT and a fireman and had been on calls where somebody was actually raped and he said that the difference between real rape and a SM scene are night and day. In fact, in a rape scene, the girl can put a stop to it at any second just by saying the safe word.

About the original post though, urges to actually rape somebody aren't normal. I'd seriously get some help about that.


The girls go berserk often when smacked in the face during a SM rape scene because the dude broke the deal. It's always fun to watch, especially when the girl can fight, there are a few porn actresses who can really mess a guy up.

Night and day indeed. Porn is fictitious stuff where as you said there are plenty of signs and rules to abort mission. Real rape is real, scratch marks, broken nails, drawing blood, real tears.

I enjoy rough stuff as well, but just as porn we both know what's up.


Real life rape is for the very unstable and sad. Even if a semi disturbed individual would commit rape it would damage him as well after the act I believe.
You must be hyper cold and super damaged to rape and feel cool about it.


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05 Feb 2014, 10:53 pm

SoulcakeDuck wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
Rape scenes are fairly common in the BDSM scene, but they are negotiated by both parties first and limits are set and a safeword is used. Some people take it pretty far, even where the girl is fighting back and kicks and hits the guy. I knew a guy who was into BDSM and he was particularly fond of rape scenes and he liked them pretty heavy like that. However, he wouldn't ever actually rape anybody and never wanted to ACTUALLY rape a girl, he just liked having really rough sex where he held her down. He was an EMT and a fireman and had been on calls where somebody was actually raped and he said that the difference between real rape and a SM scene are night and day. In fact, in a rape scene, the girl can put a stop to it at any second just by saying the safe word.

About the original post though, urges to actually rape somebody aren't normal. I'd seriously get some help about that.


The girls go berserk often when smacked in the face during a SM rape scene because the dude broke the deal. It's always fun to watch, especially when the girl can fight, there are a few porn actresses who can really mess a guy up.

Night and day indeed. Porn is fictitious stuff where as you said there are plenty of signs and rules to abort mission. Real rape is real, scratch marks, broken nails, drawing blood, real tears.

I enjoy rough stuff as well, but just as porn we both know what's up.


Real life rape is for the very unstable and sad. Even if a semi disturbed individual would commit rape it would damage him as well after the act I believe.
You must be hyper cold and super damaged to rape and feel cool about it.


Yeah, you negotiate everything before you start when you do the BDSM scene. Some girls are ok with being slapped in the face and expect to be able to hit the guy like that too. If both parties are ok with that, then it's all good but most of the time from what I know, in real life, when two average people are just doing a rape scene and it's not on camera or porn or anything, people tend to forget some of the more important points they should have brought up before it started. Saying "tackle me, throw me down and rape me please but I'm going to fight back" rarely goes off that smoothly. Somebody is going to hit somebody else too hard then there will be hurt feelings and all that and I actually did hear of one time there was a messup about a safeword and that girl did go to the cops about it. Not good for either person.


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05 Feb 2014, 11:17 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
SoulcakeDuck wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
Rape scenes are fairly common in the BDSM scene, but they are negotiated by both parties first and limits are set and a safeword is used. Some people take it pretty far, even where the girl is fighting back and kicks and hits the guy. I knew a guy who was into BDSM and he was particularly fond of rape scenes and he liked them pretty heavy like that. However, he wouldn't ever actually rape anybody and never wanted to ACTUALLY rape a girl, he just liked having really rough sex where he held her down. He was an EMT and a fireman and had been on calls where somebody was actually raped and he said that the difference between real rape and a SM scene are night and day. In fact, in a rape scene, the girl can put a stop to it at any second just by saying the safe word.

About the original post though, urges to actually rape somebody aren't normal. I'd seriously get some help about that.


The girls go berserk often when smacked in the face during a SM rape scene because the dude broke the deal. It's always fun to watch, especially when the girl can fight, there are a few porn actresses who can really mess a guy up.

Night and day indeed. Porn is fictitious stuff where as you said there are plenty of signs and rules to abort mission. Real rape is real, scratch marks, broken nails, drawing blood, real tears.

I enjoy rough stuff as well, but just as porn we both know what's up.


Real life rape is for the very unstable and sad. Even if a semi disturbed individual would commit rape it would damage him as well after the act I believe.
You must be hyper cold and super damaged to rape and feel cool about it.


Yeah, you negotiate everything before you start when you do the BDSM scene. Some girls are ok with being slapped in the face and expect to be able to hit the guy like that too. If both parties are ok with that, then it's all good but most of the time from what I know, in real life, when two average people are just doing a rape scene and it's not on camera or porn or anything, people tend to forget some of the more important points they should have brought up before it started. Saying "tackle me, throw me down and rape me please but I'm going to fight back" rarely goes off that smoothly. Somebody is going to hit somebody else too hard then there will be hurt feelings and all that and I actually did hear of one time there was a messup about a safeword and that girl did go to the cops about it. Not good for either person.


Indeed, amateurs. And most don't even know how to use force in sex right. They just say they are into all kinds of rough stuff, ropes and s**t and then when they meet up, he has no f*****g idea what he's doing and just hurts the girl or he's a very very angry man and hurts the girl. Point, someone is getting hurt and not in a sexy way.


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06 Feb 2014, 2:41 am

I find the whole bdsm disgusting and it was invented to appease those with violent/forced/rape fantasies in a consent way, slight spanking doesn't count.



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06 Feb 2014, 2:45 am

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A word serving as a prearranged and unambiguous signal to end an activity, such as between a dominant and submissive sexual couple


8O That's new to me, like the dominant doesn't know when to stop by his/her own?

Her: Fried ch.... fried chic...

Him suffocating her: I can't hear you b***h! Speak up!! MUhahaha!

Her: Frie.... (dies)



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06 Feb 2014, 2:51 am

There is lots of real rape in the BDSM scene. The safe word is often ignored, and that's the moment it becomes rape. No, not everyone is like this, but there ARE real rapists involved in that scene. It's far more common than one would think. Also, because it's BDSM, it can be harder to prove there was an actual rape. :/



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06 Feb 2014, 3:44 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I find the whole bdsm disgusting and it was invented to appease those with violent/forced/rape fantasies in a consent way, slight spanking doesn't count.


Does simple restrain count? Like, one person being tied to the bed, or handcuffed, or ducttaped or whatever somehow restrained to the bed, or table.. or couch.. or whatever.

Does that count as BDSM?

I've always been confused where the line of some kinky play crosses over to the BDSM area...



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06 Feb 2014, 4:01 am

I will never for the life of me understand why people don't think to themselves that if they are turned on by forcing themselves on someone or by suffering of someone that obviously points out to a very messed up mentality and they should stay the heck away from other people. Before we all got civlised as f**k, we used to put down unsafe or feeble members of the tribe. We still do actually, some places still have death sentence and sometimes euthanasia is practiced legally when vegetative state is all that persists. Imagine if we had someone rounding up and putting down everyone who was into sado masochism, though, it would get rid of half the population, maybe? It always profoundly disturbs me when i see someone enjoying the suffering of others, not necessarily in a sexual context. I have experienced it by proxy and know it is like a drug addiction
the only way is to stop permanently forever and never ever let yourself slip once.

I have tried the hands tied to the bed thing couple of times as well as spanking, it made me feel abused/ like I was abusing someone which i suppose is the point but i didn't enjoy it. My partner at the time seemed scarily joyful about the prospect of me restrained and helpless. I didn't care for that at all.



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06 Feb 2014, 4:19 am

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I will never for the life of me understand why people don't think to themselves that if they are turned on by forcing themselves on someone or by suffering of someone that obviously points out to a very messed up mentality and they should stay the heck away from other people. Before we all got civlised as f**k, we used to put down unsafe or feeble members of the tribe. We still do actually, some places still have death sentence and sometimes euthanasia is practiced legally when vegetative state is all that persists. Imagine if we had someone rounding up and putting down everyone who was into sado masochism, though, it would get rid of half the population, maybe? It always profoundly disturbs me when i see someone enjoying the suffering of others, not necessarily in a sexual context. I have experienced it by proxy and know it is like a drug addiction
the only way is to stop permanently forever and never ever let yourself slip once.

I have tried the hands tied to the bed thing couple of times as well as spanking, it made me feel abused/ like I was abusing someone which i suppose is the point but i didn't enjoy it. My partner at the time seemed scarily joyful about the prospect of me restrained and helpless. I didn't care for that at all.



Well, I want to be the one that is tied up. However, I have never actually tried it. Perhaps when I do, I will feel the same way as you. Although for me the point isn't to feel like I'm being abused as I don't want anything that even remotely resembles violence/torture/whatever done to me. The main point for me would be the surprise and anticipation.

I just really like surprises.


P.S. I'm so sorry about me never getting back to you on the mp3 thing. I started doing it and then I've gotten really busy with some things going on in my life at the moment, but I haven't forgotten. I hope you can forgive me.