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Its a propaganda campaign that seeks to erase the seven men that died simply to confirm a bias and wants to make the issue about his misogyny, when clearly there was much more to his motivations.

How's your imaginary girlfriend treating you?

This is sort of a general response to a few people, but its also a response to starvingartist.

Well this entire hashtag campaign seeks to blame his entitlement and murderous rage on the echo chamber of PUA forums (which The Daily Kos erroneously link with the MRM). Maybe you didn't say it, but believe me, there are people that I have met that believe that his beliefs and mindset is a normal occurance in certain male spaces, which isn't true at all. This about creating a narrative where all men must assume responsibility for the comfort and percieved wellbeing of women. Its the same crap as schroedingers rapist - guilt by association, pure and simple.

There is no doubt that he was a mysogynist and that there are those who might share similar sentiments. However, this tragedy has been hiijacked and derailed to make a commentary about all mysogyny and to assert that all women are afraid that they will meet this same fate. It's the utter arrogance of saying that not only is this a tragedy for those two women (not seven) that were killed, but a tragedy for all women everywhere. Its disturbing how it echoes the same hysteria over gun control or drugs. Now I am not a fan of drugs or guns, but I'm especially not a fan of exploiting tragedy to further your agenda, especially when you act like somehow YOU'RE the victim.

Its a propaganda campaign that seeks to erase the seven men that died simply to confirm a bias and wants to make the issue about his misogyny, when clearly there was much more to his motivations. And while some others on this forum have mentioned looking at the intersecting aspects if hid psyche, all I am seeing is some very impressive mental gymnastics to support your confirmation bias. Seriously, some of you guys should try for the olympics.

Now I know you, starvingartist, don't think that he is absolved of his actions entirely, but why start this campaign in he first place if you didn't place at least a little blame on society?

i think the appropriate schoolyard response here would be "so you can dish it out but you can't take it, huh?" you threw the first punch, man.

I don't know what you've been reading, but a good chunk of the rhetoric I've been seeing about this is how more men were killed by this misogynistic psycho than woman, indicating that this kind of crap can be just as dangerous to men as women, therefore we men have all the motivation we need to stop misogyny in it's tracks wherever we see it. Hating women and hating the men able to get them go hand in hand.



Of course, let's not also forget that he fully planned on entering into a sorority house, yet failed to do so and had to improvise. You don't get much clearer than "I'm going to enter the hottest sorority house of UCSB and I will slaughter every single spoilt, stuck-up, blonde slut that I see inside there."

I think we do need a little levity here.

Let's stop squabbling, and go on with our lives.

I think it's pretty well agreed that the mods will moderate sexist remarks similar to how they moderate racist remarks.

Not all men are misogynist creeps.

Not all women are man-haters.

We're together for the long haul, like it or not.

The mods have definitely gotten more vigilant, even if an official "policy" is not in place.

I've seen a lot of feminists project his views onto other people that are/were in his situation. They're plenty of socially awkward, depressed, lonely, and virgin guys that don't think about slaughtering women en masse. In fact I'm pretty sure 99.99999999999% of them don't think this way. Are we going to start viewing every christian the same as those nutjobs in the Westboro Baptist Church, or every Muslim the same as those in Al-Qaeda?

Yes, they must, but I hope they don't be labeled as chauvinist chivalrous knights for protecting women from bad men because some might confuse it with benevolent chauvinism. People should protect the vulnerable ones whether are women, men or kids.

Had to read up on a few things before i could tie this to the latest feminist blasts that were waging over social media...

This is not a case of someone with just mental issues (as it's seemed to be covered in the news), but more of someone who couldn't get his way by not trying at all and expecting things to come.

I still can't figure out why more women are coming out about rape and whatnot after rejecting someone, though...