Is a career required for a relationship?

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I think so. I think I can get those things in spite of my age. I think I'll soon be rolling on a positive feedback loop.

I'd happily date a blue collar guy, or a guy who has a job so that he can do [whatever he likes in his not-at-work hours]. As long as he works hard & is an independent grownup, *how* he earns his living isn't all that important to me.

If the hypothetical you in this scenario is receiving $2300/month in employment insurance (ie your EI contribution is automatically deducted from your pay each week, you got laid off due to no fault of your own AND receive EI to get you through a spell of unemployment) AND are actively looking for work, I wouldn't be opposed to dating a hypothetical you if we clicked/had chemistry.

If the hypothetical you in the scenario is on social assistance (a fixed monthly sum of money that enables a person who can't/won't work indefinitely), then the answer's NO.

You don't seem very grateful that you are able bodied and don't suffer a chronic illness. You don't seem to appreciate how lucky you are. I have a close friend who is married. He is on SSI as he suffers from chronic pain after a parasite infection he had years ago. Frankly, the arrogance and judgmental tone you display in your posts disgusts me. I wouldn't want anything to do with a person like you.

In this chat, he didn't mention that he was on disability. That's a different matter altogether.

RetroGamer87

you seem to have some of your quotes messed up in the first post.
you get $2,300 a month is your dollars worth less then ours?
only get like $700 here.

I don't care about that kind of stuff when it comes to friend or relationships. it'd be cool if they had some type of income though but if i could afford to support two people then i wouldn't care at all a long as they are happy about it. I care more about, personality, interests, politics, and if they are a nice person. also attraction but don't mean super model.

you seem nice, though few of your interests tell me we wouldn't match well besides friends. I have had friends who like similar stuff.
so i think there's others like me plus the whole not caring what your partner does for a job is far more likely in men then women.

I'm on SSI and been so since 8th grade. been trying am still am to find work. went to school for 4 years, just took a security unarmed class today to get state certified. hoping to get work in that field and eventually do armor truck duty. just trying to work doesn't mean you get work. i've been trying since i graduated high school. had a summer job for 3 years in a row and now a rush time cashier job for the last 2 years.

should the guy who can't work due to disability just die? not really his fault and it is quite a depressing thing being on ssi. I worry a lot about if i don't ever get off, and they make it hard and punish you for trying to get off.

i think if you would have been on welfare you'd understand. instead so many people judge others without knowing jack s**t about how it's really like.

Disability IS social assistance. Most people on this site who don't work are on disability, not welfare. In the US it's impossible for individuals to get welfare. It's strictly for families (mostly single mothers with children). If you're a single male with no children you can get subsidized housing, but you won't get a monthly check. Yet people tend to stigmatize SSI just as much as welfare if it's for a mental condition ( regardless of how hard the person has tried to make it on their own ). You coming in trudging around with the "mommy and daddy" s**t is pretty f*****g insensitive. I doubt you care though. You've shown yourself to be a prick. I don't even know if you're male or female, but you're a prick either way.

Did you think they gave me that money for no reason? Of course there's a reason.

You don't like me being on social assistance? I don't like being on social assistance either. I plan to get off of social assistance. I plan to support myself.

Which post?

Yes it is. If I convert it into American money it's $2,030 per month.

Is that every four weeks or paid on the same day of each month?

Yeah, I hate it when people point at job seekers and say they're "refusing to work".

the one regarding you living in the uk. i couldn't find anywhere in this thread where I said that and the other one says it quoted you but was infact something I said.

that's a lot thats like middle class income here.

It's the first of every month. they rig the system so they don't have to raise and haven't raised it to deal with inflation and cost of living. so while food, gas, water, power, rent etc all go up the amount we get doesn't. to save the gov money so they can pay themselves more and waste it on stupid programs they won't end up using. that and to send billions overseas to other nations and enemies as aid. to think how better off our own nation might be if we accepted we are 16trillion in debt and have our own internal problems. let people starve here to try to save others over seas. but thats getting into politics. but basically ssi doesn't really pay enough money to live just survive. the nice things I have are from saving what little money I make from seasonal work.

well they have a job you know that job they've had for 30-40 years and didn't lose during the downslid, so there fore it is easy for anyone to get a job. my idea is "fine give me your job and go find a new one since it's so easy"

Page 4 I think... or maybe you meant someone else was in the UK. No matter.

Eh, it happens.

Really? $24,000 a year is middle class? Not $100,000-$200,000 a year (combined income) like my really annoying relatives (most of whom seem to be engineers for some reason)?
I think I could have a job that pays twice what I get and still be called working class though in some ways it would have more to do with the nature of the work than the pay (one of less annoying uncles is a software engineer on only $54,000 a year but he's still considered middle class due to the technical of his work even though he lives in a cheap house in a rough neighborhood (because he insisted on buying one, he could've afforded to rent a better one) whereas my grandfather is considered working class due to the nontechnical nature of his (former) work but now makes a lot from his investments and lives in a better house in an affluent neighborhood (and he owns next door to rent out and a lot of stock). I guess that just goes to show what a factory worker can do if he lives frugally, works for about 50 years and moonlights as a janitor.

Anyway, the point is sometimes working class people have more money than middle class people. I've seen some very wealthy tradies.

Tough break man, here they have a committee to calculate the cost of living every year.

Considering I would have starved to death in most other countries by now maybe I should stop complaining about Australia's censorship, crummy TV shows and lack of fiber optic internet (still have to use ADSL)

How can they do that when NASA is underfunded?

Worked out weekly $2300/month is only $60 less per week than my take home pay was 3 years ago (in the same country). That's stupid.

Uhmmm, you mean it was stupid that you were only getting paid $590 per week (after tax), right? Not stupid that I get $530 a week, right?

A career is not essential but an indicator that you're capable of some sort of stability is a plus. For example a guy I met once and was changing direction in his studies and work life like a gust of wind with ADHD. One job, lasted a month, quit that, went to uni to study pure maths, quit that and changed courses, and then changed course again. Then quit uni again to get a job which he of course eventually quit.

I got sick of all the students on OKC claiming they're looking for a life partner yet show they're not ready by doing that thing that's the exact opposite of settling down (ie. travelling; every year is a gap year!).

I'm 31, I just earned my first batch of long service leave at my job as an accountant (10 years full time and counting) and I have my own net wealth and assets. I have no time for guys who have been on Austudy since leaving high school and yet only just earned their first TAFE qualification at 30 (another example of a guy I know). I'm ready to find a life partner and I deem them not ready, and IMO I'm too old to wait around in a relationship with them for years whilst they "catch up" to me. Whats so wrong with wanting my equal in this regard? It's not about the money or status (2 average wages per household is plenty), it's about having the stability, security and maturity to settle down and live a life together.

You get paid $530 per week for staying at home?

Jeez....those wealthy countries....

It's very fair in your case (and for Jjance, despite her arrogant tone).

But this is where things get unfair for guys like sly and retro: even most of their equivalent females want career guys.

I have seen so many entry-job girls (and even losers) who only want career guys...in fact, most of them.