"Date other fat people if you're fat"
I don't see anything wrong this this guy, he looks good.
Asymmetrical nipples on both sexes, and asymmetrical breasts on women, are far from uncommon.
I'm not in the shape that this guy is, but I wear a 44-L jacket, and 32x32 pants. I can't buy suits---the pants have to be taken in too much and look like crap when they're finished. I either have to buy separates, or have suits made---and I can't afford the latter.
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Hmm too me it looks like there is something oddly disproportionate about this guy...whatever it is, makes him look unattractive to me.
could it be that his nipples are close or not perfectly symmetrical? that is how it looks to me, though i know it may be average.
But I still agree with the opinion.
Biceps are overrated. Most men who only train biceps have been nicknamed 'curlbros' and are usually looked down on. Another (less common) nickname is to mockingly call them 'chest and bicep warriors' - men who only train upper body and usually ignore their leg muscles, giving them a nice upper body but thin little chicken legs that make them look absolutely ridiculous.
yep, i knew about the synthol.
i hears "curls are for girls" thrown around by the guys on my track team in high school.
I think the reason Michael Phelps (man in picture) is 'disproportionate' is because swimmers tend to have disproportionate upper torsos (extremely large shoulder and lat muscles) and this shows. Also, his biceps are a little stronger than his triceps (lol, he's a curlbro) making his arms look 'weird'. Here's another pic of him: http://www.110pounds.com/wp-content/upl ... helps3.jpg
It's certainly not a bad thing that he's a little disproporionate. 'Disproportionate' is subjective imho. I agree with Earthling, Phelps is very fit and has an attractive body.
I'm actually working on achieving a 'swimmer body' myself by intentionally emphasizing lats, upper back and shoulders but ignoring lower back muscles. I already have a 'swimmer back' due to large lats, but my shoulders are still too small.
And yeah, it's okay to train biceps, just not all the time like some males do.
It's just stupid - your body needs time to rest and recover, and other parts need attention.
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This isn't meant to be harsh but if you're a moderately fat girl, you know that many guys are going to be turned off by it. And if a guy happens to show interest, fat chicks are extra friendly because they know that they're not going to impress you by their appearance but maybe if they make up for it with a nice warming personality, a guy who doesn't mind her fatness will give her a chance.
But yeah if you're a fat girl if you want your attractiveness appeal to go up, then lose weight. Consume less food, eat better food such as fruits and vegetables and lay off the junk food, go for walks, lift weights do low amount of weight but lots of repetition because this burns off fat. What you want to do is to burn as much fat off as possible because then you can become curvy and that is sexy to some guys. Obese isn't sexy at all.
Know the difference between curvy and obese.
I'm plus sized and have had boyfriends and I'm not desperate. I'm actually very picky.
Exercise, eating healthy foods and looking nice are passions of mine. Believe it or not, I turned a some guys down because they were wanting stuff that I find uncomfortable.
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If you want a decent amount of attention than it is ideal to follow most of societies standard for physical attraction (not all, as many are unrealistic or unnecessary).
Yes, everyone has different tastes and there's plenty out there that will love you if you are unfit or out-of-shape, however you have no right to complain if these are the reason's other's don't find you attractive.
I only believe you should complain about a lack of dating success if you are 'doing all the right things...and still failing!' not when you're 'whining people aren't attracted to X trait' and not doing anything to fix the problem.
Culturally speaking, the majority of males are not attracted to overweight women, just like the majority of women are not attracted to overweight men.
The ideal body for a male is high metabolism, low-body fat, low risk for most diseases, moderate strength, high stamina, endurance and agility.
The ideal body for a female is high metabolism, moderate body fat, low risk for most diseases, low strength, moderate stamina, endurance and agility.
This is the body our ancestors survived on, and the one for ideal physiological function.
It is not the large, ripped guy for men, nor is it being stick-thin for women.
Should these men whine and complain women aren't attracted to him?
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Should his female equivalent have any right to do the same?
This is what whiny and complaining about things instead of fixing them actually looks like.
For once, I actually agree with some of darkphantomx's pos and think he has a point.
If you are overweight or have some other culturally undesirable trait, accept that many other people won't be attracted to you, and they have every right to do so.
Otherwise, why do you feel the need to complain? Unless you're actually working on improving your health/undesirable trait/whatever, it's not like many people are going to be attracted to you anyway. Accept that only some will be attracted to you and be quiet about it, or try to improve, I say.
It's the same thing as telling us aspie males to stop being a-høles and actually work on improving as a person and treating women like people instead of mistreating or generalizing women and then complaining about a lack of success, something I frequently see on this forum.
To OP: Imho, miss, if you want a male who can help you change your lifestyle for the better, I suggest developing the ability to at least make a start yourself. I believe it's not good to rely on another person to change your habits/lifestyle and this is something you should be able to have the willpower to start yourself. Apply this to anything in your life. It's your life, your choices and your responsibility. Just like I'm not going to rely on my girlfriend for finding me a job when I can take steps to do it myself. It's my resume, etc. and she shouldn't have to fill it out.
Many, many males probably will be attracted to a hard-working and dedicated woman, and by making a start this is very likely what you will become. I optimistically believe that you can do it, and there is no 'can't'. You can definitely still try and date someone who pushes you to try new things and experiences, in fact this is very healthy and I do myself. But without them, should you really lack the ability to do it yourself? I know that, while I usually lack the ability to go out of my comfort zone and try new things, I really could so long as I really push myself to. And yes I do have depression, anxiety and other issues. Can you do the same?
People have the right to complain about anything they want to actually...not that it'll necessarily help/change anything, but I think its covered under freedom of speech to complain. Also even if darkphantomx has truth to what he says its like he puts extra effort into being as nasty as he can about it....as if wording things harsher makes it more true...I think that is more what people take issue with.
Well, you have a right to complain, but it usually ticks me off, along with many other people, if you don't actually do anything about it.
The way I see it, those who do whine and complain without doing anything to fix a problem, usually deserve whatever nastiness someone else will give. Your freedom of speech to complain and whine like a baby is my freedom of speech to be aggressively critical of you. An overweight man who whines and whines that no women find him attractive if he's not even trying to fix it will tick me off enough to be especially spiteful if it helps teach him a lesson. 'Maybe if you put the 20 damn donuts you're eating right now down and start exercising 30 minutes a day...! !!'
It's just like darkphantomx when he sometimes posts misogynisitc comments complaining about his lack of dating sucess instead of reflecting and fixing his attitude (which he has sometimes before). You don't like seeing it, I don't like seeing it, but he has every right to do it.
If I sound cruel, nasty or aggressive because I would be aggressively critical to people who whine and complain without even trying to fix an issue, then I'm sorry.
Usually I do try to be sympathetic, empathetic, helpful and constructive at first, but after a while if you can recognize people aren't going to fix their problem but continue to complain, that's when you should stop helping them. A lot of my family members are in extremely poorphysical health. I'll offer to give them tips and methods to improve their lifestle, but if they refuse to listen I won't be afraid to tell it like it is and be aggressively critical of their lack of self-control or care for their health.
It's not out of hate, it's out of compassion and the desire for others to do their personal best as well as myself. If you're fine being in poor health, that's okay, it's just most people won't be attracted to you. Deal with it.
If you want to be in good health, but won't listen to an instructor or someone trying to teach you how to, if you whine, complain, show impatience, disrespect, no gratitude, etc. then you deserve no help whatsoever.
This isn't meant to be harsh but if you're a moderately fat girl, you know that many guys are going to be turned off by it. And if a guy happens to show interest, fat chicks are extra friendly because they know that they're not going to impress you by their appearance but maybe if they make up for it with a nice warming personality, a guy who doesn't mind her fatness will give her a chance.
But yeah if you're a fat girl if you want your attractiveness appeal to go up, then lose weight. Consume less food, eat better food such as fruits and vegetables and lay off the junk food, go for walks, lift weights do low amount of weight but lots of repetition because this burns off fat. What you want to do is to burn as much fat off as possible because then you can become curvy and that is sexy to some guys. Obese isn't sexy at all.
Know the difference between curvy and obese.
That's not always the case. Obese women can have just as high of standards as women who are fit, or skinny.
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Well, you have a right to complain, but it usually ticks me off, along with many other people, if you don't actually do anything about it.
The way I see it, those who do whine and complain without doing anything to fix a problem, usually deserve whatever nastiness someone else will give. Your freedom of speech to complain and whine like a baby is my freedom of speech to be aggressively critical of you. An overweight man who whines and whines that no women find him attractive if he's not even trying to fix it will tick me off enough to be especially spiteful if it helps teach him a lesson. 'Maybe if you put the 20 damn donuts you're eating right now down and start exercising 30 minutes a day...! ! !'
It's just like darkphantomx when he sometimes posts misogynisitc comments complaining about his lack of dating sucess instead of reflecting and fixing his attitude (which he has sometimes before). You don't like seeing it, I don't like seeing it, but he has every right to do it.
If I sound cruel, nasty or aggressive because I would be aggressively critical to people who whine and complain without even trying to fix an issue, then I'm sorry.
Usually I do try to be sympathetic, empathetic, helpful and constructive at first, but after a while if you can recognize people aren't going to fix their problem but continue to complain, that's when you should stop helping them. A lot of my family members are in extremely poorphysical health. I'll offer to give them tips and methods to improve their lifestle, but if they refuse to listen I won't be afraid to tell it like it is and be aggressively critical of their lack of self-control or care for their health.
It's not out of hate, it's out of compassion and the desire for others to do their personal best as well as myself. If you're fine being in poor health, that's okay, it's just most people won't be attracted to you. Deal with it.
If you want to be in good health, but won't listen to an instructor or someone trying to teach you how to, if you whine, complain, show impatience, disrespect, no gratitude, etc. then you deserve no help whatsoever.
I wasn't really talking about me, just in general people do have the right to complain. Also though, it cannot be assumed because someone complains about something online that they aren't doing anything about it...unless of course they imply that. But I'd say complaining about something and doing nothing about it doesn't do much good though I think its ok to vent a bit. It is true by complaining a lot without doing anything about it you're likely just to annoy people.
I myself am in moderate health, could probably be healthier but I am good where I am. Also haven't seen much of your posts specifically so I don't know if your blunt critiques would be what I consider over the top...darkphantomx on the other hand seems to have an obsession with being disrsectful towards larger women in general regardless the degree or if its even to the point of unhealthiness....And I still stand by my opinion that one doesn't have to be 'lean' to be healthy per say. He complains about other peoples bodies far too much hence why I get annoyed by those posts.
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I think the reason Michael Phelps (man in picture) is 'disproportionate' is because swimmers tend to have disproportionate upper torsos (extremely large shoulder and lat muscles) and this shows. Also, his biceps are a little stronger than his triceps (lol, he's a curlbro) making his arms look 'weird'. Here's another pic of him: http://www.110pounds.com/wp-content/upl ... helps3.jpg
It's certainly not a bad thing that he's a little disproporionate. 'Disproportionate' is subjective imho. I agree with Earthling, Phelps is very fit and has an attractive body.
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So its not the way the pants fall than I take it.....meh guess I just don't find that body type very attractive, some people do so to each their own I suppose.
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i probably wouldn't be able to tell a whole lot of difference between those guys body types...until i read others posts about it. i think phelps looks good.
the females i can remember (off the top of my head) that i've heard complain about their weight have all done something about it, with varying results. mos of the others seem to be happy with themselves. seem to.
i remember my girlfriend's mother being afraid over her being pre diabetic. tests apparently revealed no such thing but still, with her getting cramps and just recovering from mumps, i worry. she says exercises but otherwise i don't think she goes out much.
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the females i can remember (off the top of my head) that i've heard complain about their weight have all done something about it, with varying results. mos of the others seem to be happy with themselves. seem to.
i remember my girlfriend's mother being afraid over her being pre diabetic. tests apparently revealed no such thing but still, with her getting cramps and just recovering from mumps, i worry. she says exercises but otherwise i don't think she goes out much.
How many have you met that actually measure their food out? That goes for guys too.
the females i can remember (off the top of my head) that i've heard complain about their weight have all done something about it, with varying results. mos of the others seem to be happy with themselves. seem to.
i remember my girlfriend's mother being afraid over her being pre diabetic. tests apparently revealed no such thing but still, with her getting cramps and just recovering from mumps, i worry. she says exercises but otherwise i don't think she goes out much.
How many have you met that actually measure their food out? That goes for guys too.
Hm? You mean measuring calories/macros?
I don't know about Kip, but I rarely know anyone, male or female within my friends and family that do it. My uncle who's extremely committed to bodybuilding does though.
Thing is, i don't even calculate macros or calories exactly but take 'rough guesses'. My macros are roughly calculated but mostly on point. Calories I never actually calculated at all. I just experimented with food meals/portions through trial and error and now eat the exact same meals every day almost in the same portions (plus eat very clean) and consdiering I have gained weight in mostly muscle and little fat, and considering gains have been slow, I must be in a slight surplus for slow bulking. Maybe I could eat a little more, but oh well. I'm happy with gains being extremely slow.
But yeah most people who lose weight don't even know how to do it right. For one it's not just about eating healthier but calories, along with maintaining muscle as well instead of just losing both muscle and fat, etc.
Starvation or just eating much less slows the metabolism down...
i've never asked about that, specifically. maybe not many.
that's you in your avatar, Outrider?
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