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21 Apr 2016, 6:54 pm

I don't care if he's deluding himself.

I agree with Sly, he's being extremely confident.

To even have the balls to even think you have a chance with people of that attractiveness level, is a good thing.

The thing is, OP said in another thread this is actually what he's attracted to - the extraverted, bubbling, airhead types.

Perhaps he should try and seek one then of his attractiveness level, but how many extraverted, bubbling, social, party women do you now are average looking or below average? Hm? Exactly.

They are social and fun because they are attractive, and being attractive makes them feel confident, social and fun.

Meanwhile, how realistic do you suspect it would be if, a male attracted to nerdy, geeky, introverted girls would find one who is a visual 10 (by society's 'traditional' standards, NOT by ours e.g. model-looking)? Precisely.

And how do we know he hasn't made an effort? For all we know he might be like hipsters - making their style/fashion look effortless when he actually put a lot of time and effort into it. I can see he might just be purposely putting on the 'trendy Mark Zuckerberg style geek' look.

"I just find his subtle arrogance kind of obnoxious, the fact that he thinks he has a chance with either of those types of women when he clearly hasn't put any effort into making himself more attractive to them"

Well, he'd probably have to actually change his personality and who he is just to do that.

Society encourages people to 'be themselves' or better yet, be their 'best' selves, but if that means he's a dweeb/nerd, shouldn't he be the best damn dweeb/nerd he can be?

And do cheerleaders ever like the extremely confident nerds actually happy with who they are and work hard on their appearance and hygiene? Even then, they usually don't.

At best, he could suppress his nerdy side, and take up a few new hobbies/interests that diversify his personality more (sports, religion, one of the arts, etc.)



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22 Apr 2016, 8:26 am

Why limit yourself to just the one type? Try ALL the types! And then settle down with the most unsuitable type you can find. Your folks will love it :D



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22 Apr 2016, 10:07 am

The OP is showing an unwarranted high opinion of himself, greatly overestimating how hot he is. That's not confidence; that's arrogance. There's a difference between confidence and arrogance. When you think you're awesome without any evidence to back up that belief, that's arrogance. And the fact that he's subtly fishing for complements shows that he's actually deeply insecure under his facade of confidence. Most women can tell the difference between genuine confidence and narcissistic arrogance.



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22 Apr 2016, 10:16 am

Is this more "average" for everyone?

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22 Apr 2016, 10:18 am

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I just find his subtle arrogance kind of obnoxious, the fact that he thinks he has a chance with either of those types of women when he clearly hasn't put any effort into making himself more attractive to them, and also the fact that this seems more like a "fishing for complements" thread than anything else, like he wanted people to validate how sexy he is just because he paid some attractive women to pose with him. Not to mention he's basically treating women as trophies when he's sharing these pictures. I find him just as annoying as all the misogynists you see in L&D.

And yes, I admit that I've made some pretty arrogant posts here, but I'm more open about the fact that I'm an overconfident as*hole, and I've already had my attractiveness validated by many people IRL.

Oh you mean that he has confidence in himself. Odd thought women and men here keep saying to have confidence. Seems to fly in the face of most advice given on this site.

He took pictures with women at events. Am I missing something? The models at events are paid to look pretty, take pictures with guests and try to sell things. Personally I'd be too afraid to approach models if I ever attended any such event and I don't like taking photos. However I've seen such photos of both female and male models or people in costumes for, such events all over social media. I don't equal that to seeing women as trophies.

Yeah he's not good enough for any of those women,meow dare he even try. How dare he be confident given his looks.mhe should know better.


You're not one to be talking. You said in another thread that you're "down as low as I can be without being homeless", as you put it. I'm amused that you would have the audacity to act like you know anything about women and dating when you have no success with women, and have probably never even worked up the courage to ask a girl out. I've had a girlfriend; I've had several girls show interest in me; I've hit on women in various situations using various techniques, and I've seen what works and what doesn't. And I can tell you that 1) women don't like arrogant guys, and 2) you can't fake confidence because people will see right through it. If you want more advice, feel free to ask me. I'll be happy to help you out.



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22 Apr 2016, 10:19 am

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22 Apr 2016, 10:31 am

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I just find his subtle arrogance kind of obnoxious, the fact that he thinks he has a chance with either of those types of women when he clearly hasn't put any effort into making himself more attractive to them, and also the fact that this seems more like a "fishing for complements" thread than anything else, like he wanted people to validate how sexy he is just because he paid some attractive women to pose with him. Not to mention he's basically treating women as trophies when he's sharing these pictures. I find him just as annoying as all the misogynists you see in L&D.

And yes, I admit that I've made some pretty arrogant posts here, but I'm more open about the fact that I'm an overconfident as*hole, and I've already had my attractiveness validated by many people IRL.

Oh you mean that he has confidence in himself. Odd thought women and men here keep saying to have confidence. Seems to fly in the face of most advice given on this site.

He took pictures with women at events. Am I missing something? The models at events are paid to look pretty, take pictures with guests and try to sell things. Personally I'd be too afraid to approach models if I ever attended any such event and I don't like taking photos. However I've seen such photos of both female and male models or people in costumes for, such events all over social media. I don't equal that to seeing women as trophies.

Yeah he's not good enough for any of those women,meow dare he even try. How dare he be confident given his looks.mhe should know better.


You're not one to be talking. You said in another thread that you're "down as low as I can be without being homeless", as you put it. I'm amused that you would have the audacity to act like you know anything about women and dating when you have no success with women, and have probably never even worked up the courage to ask a girl out. I've had a girlfriend; I've had several girls show interest in me; I've hit on women in various situations using various techniques, and I've seen what works and what doesn't. And I can tell you that 1) women don't like arrogant guys, and 2) you can't fake confidence because people will see right through it. If you want more advice, feel free to ask me. I'll be happy to help you out.


I'd be a bit skeptical of the advice from somebody who "had" a girlfriend as opposed to "has" a girlfriend.



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22 Apr 2016, 10:33 am

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The OP is showing an unwarranted high opinion of himself, greatly overestimating how hot he is. That's not confidence; that's arrogance. There's a difference between confidence and arrogance. When you think you're awesome without any evidence to back up that belief, that's arrogance. And the fact that he's subtly fishing for complements shows that he's actually deeply insecure under his facade of confidence. Most women can tell the difference between genuine confidence and narcissistic arrogance.



0.o not according to most people on this site
I'm always told to be confident as are others but we have nothing to be confident about according to your definitions so according to you most people here are telling people to be arrogant and that women love arrogance. Confidence is simply believing you can do something regardless of if you can.



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22 Apr 2016, 10:37 am

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I just find his subtle arrogance kind of obnoxious, the fact that he thinks he has a chance with either of those types of women when he clearly hasn't put any effort into making himself more attractive to them, and also the fact that this seems more like a "fishing for complements" thread than anything else, like he wanted people to validate how sexy he is just because he paid some attractive women to pose with him. Not to mention he's basically treating women as trophies when he's sharing these pictures. I find him just as annoying as all the misogynists you see in L&D.

And yes, I admit that I've made some pretty arrogant posts here, but I'm more open about the fact that I'm an overconfident as*hole, and I've already had my attractiveness validated by many people IRL.

Oh you mean that he has confidence in himself. Odd thought women and men here keep saying to have confidence. Seems to fly in the face of most advice given on this site.

He took pictures with women at events. Am I missing something? The models at events are paid to look pretty, take pictures with guests and try to sell things. Personally I'd be too afraid to approach models if I ever attended any such event and I don't like taking photos. However I've seen such photos of both female and male models or people in costumes for, such events all over social media. I don't equal that to seeing women as trophies.

Yeah he's not good enough for any of those women,meow dare he even try. How dare he be confident given his looks.mhe should know better.


You're not one to be talking. You said in another thread that you're "down as low as I can be without being homeless", as you put it. I'm amused that you would have the audacity to act like you know anything about women and dating when you have no success with women, and have probably never even worked up the courage to ask a girl out. I've had a girlfriend; I've had several girls show interest in me; I've hit on women in various situations using various techniques, and I've seen what works and what doesn't. And I can tell you that 1) women don't like arrogant guys, and 2) you can't fake confidence because people will see right through it. If you want more advice, feel free to ask me. I'll be happy to help you out.


I've asked women out. Not everyone is born with great looks and lucky to be well off.

If your so successful why come on here to bash and ruin people's confidence.

Just seems like a case of I'm good looking and how dare that ugly guy think he good enough to date women only good looking men like me are

We don't need your type here. This is a support site for aspies who tend to not be gifted in looks or social standing



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22 Apr 2016, 10:46 am

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I just find his subtle arrogance kind of obnoxious, the fact that he thinks he has a chance with either of those types of women when he clearly hasn't put any effort into making himself more attractive to them, and also the fact that this seems more like a "fishing for complements" thread than anything else, like he wanted people to validate how sexy he is just because he paid some attractive women to pose with him. Not to mention he's basically treating women as trophies when he's sharing these pictures. I find him just as annoying as all the misogynists you see in L&D.

And yes, I admit that I've made some pretty arrogant posts here, but I'm more open about the fact that I'm an overconfident as*hole, and I've already had my attractiveness validated by many people IRL.

Oh you mean that he has confidence in himself. Odd thought women and men here keep saying to have confidence. Seems to fly in the face of most advice given on this site.

He took pictures with women at events. Am I missing something? The models at events are paid to look pretty, take pictures with guests and try to sell things. Personally I'd be too afraid to approach models if I ever attended any such event and I don't like taking photos. However I've seen such photos of both female and male models or people in costumes for, such events all over social media. I don't equal that to seeing women as trophies.

Yeah he's not good enough for any of those women,meow dare he even try. How dare he be confident given his looks.mhe should know better.


You're not one to be talking. You said in another thread that you're "down as low as I can be without being homeless", as you put it. I'm amused that you would have the audacity to act like you know anything about women and dating when you have no success with women, and have probably never even worked up the courage to ask a girl out. I've had a girlfriend; I've had several girls show interest in me; I've hit on women in various situations using various techniques, and I've seen what works and what doesn't. And I can tell you that 1) women don't like arrogant guys, and 2) you can't fake confidence because people will see right through it. If you want more advice, feel free to ask me. I'll be happy to help you out.


I've asked women out. Not everyone is born with great looks and lucky to be well off.

If your so successful why come on here to bash and ruin people's confidence.

Just seems like a case of I'm good looking and how dare that ugly guy think he good enough to date women only good looking men like me are

We don't need your type here. This is a support site for aspies who tend to not be gifted in looks or social standing


Okay, I apologize if I came across this way. My point was not so much that average-looking guys can't get a girlfriend, more that they should lower their standards and not set their hearts on really beautiful women. It hardly matters anyway, because once you fall in love with someone, they will seem more beautiful to you.



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22 Apr 2016, 11:44 am

CryptoNerd wrote:
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I just find his subtle arrogance kind of obnoxious, the fact that he thinks he has a chance with either of those types of women when he clearly hasn't put any effort into making himself more attractive to them, and also the fact that this seems more like a "fishing for complements" thread than anything else, like he wanted people to validate how sexy he is just because he paid some attractive women to pose with him. Not to mention he's basically treating women as trophies when he's sharing these pictures. I find him just as annoying as all the misogynists you see in L&D.

And yes, I admit that I've made some pretty arrogant posts here, but I'm more open about the fact that I'm an overconfident as*hole, and I've already had my attractiveness validated by many people IRL.

Oh you mean that he has confidence in himself. Odd thought women and men here keep saying to have confidence. Seems to fly in the face of most advice given on this site.

He took pictures with women at events. Am I missing something? The models at events are paid to look pretty, take pictures with guests and try to sell things. Personally I'd be too afraid to approach models if I ever attended any such event and I don't like taking photos. However I've seen such photos of both female and male models or people in costumes for, such events all over social media. I don't equal that to seeing women as trophies.

Yeah he's not good enough for any of those women,meow dare he even try. How dare he be confident given his looks.mhe should know better.


You're not one to be talking. You said in another thread that you're "down as low as I can be without being homeless", as you put it. I'm amused that you would have the audacity to act like you know anything about women and dating when you have no success with women, and have probably never even worked up the courage to ask a girl out. I've had a girlfriend; I've had several girls show interest in me; I've hit on women in various situations using various techniques, and I've seen what works and what doesn't. And I can tell you that 1) women don't like arrogant guys, and 2) you can't fake confidence because people will see right through it. If you want more advice, feel free to ask me. I'll be happy to help you out.


I hope Sly279 doesn't accept that offer for more advice because I seriously doubt it would be doing my gender any favors



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22 Apr 2016, 12:20 pm

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Is this more "average" for everyone?

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They look more real...rather than being models given the job to pose with people they may or may not even like. The other ones just looked like they were next to you because its what they were getting paid to do...these ones look like maybe they are enjoying your company and certainly seems to be a more relaxed setting than the other two pictures which allows for more casual interaction.

The first ones, you could of asked them out but they probably would have turned you down just like the 100's of other guys who probably ask for their number because they're 'hot' at the events they pose with people in pictures.

The whole thing is though its not physical looks that makes someone compatible...no one here can say based on looks alone what female is more suitable for you as that says nothing about their personality, your personality or how you guys would actually get on in interaction.


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22 Apr 2016, 12:28 pm

To me those girls are just as good looking. They'll really pretty :(



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22 Apr 2016, 1:26 pm

They are pretty. I'm guessing the OP looks at a lot of porn. Still, they're not quite as attractive as the other women, so he's doing better.



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22 Apr 2016, 1:28 pm

PennyFri wrote:
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I just find his subtle arrogance kind of obnoxious, the fact that he thinks he has a chance with either of those types of women when he clearly hasn't put any effort into making himself more attractive to them, and also the fact that this seems more like a "fishing for complements" thread than anything else, like he wanted people to validate how sexy he is just because he paid some attractive women to pose with him. Not to mention he's basically treating women as trophies when he's sharing these pictures. I find him just as annoying as all the misogynists you see in L&D.

And yes, I admit that I've made some pretty arrogant posts here, but I'm more open about the fact that I'm an overconfident as*hole, and I've already had my attractiveness validated by many people IRL.

Oh you mean that he has confidence in himself. Odd thought women and men here keep saying to have confidence. Seems to fly in the face of most advice given on this site.

He took pictures with women at events. Am I missing something? The models at events are paid to look pretty, take pictures with guests and try to sell things. Personally I'd be too afraid to approach models if I ever attended any such event and I don't like taking photos. However I've seen such photos of both female and male models or people in costumes for, such events all over social media. I don't equal that to seeing women as trophies.

Yeah he's not good enough for any of those women,meow dare he even try. How dare he be confident given his looks.mhe should know better.


You're not one to be talking. You said in another thread that you're "down as low as I can be without being homeless", as you put it. I'm amused that you would have the audacity to act like you know anything about women and dating when you have no success with women, and have probably never even worked up the courage to ask a girl out. I've had a girlfriend; I've had several girls show interest in me; I've hit on women in various situations using various techniques, and I've seen what works and what doesn't. And I can tell you that 1) women don't like arrogant guys, and 2) you can't fake confidence because people will see right through it. If you want more advice, feel free to ask me. I'll be happy to help you out.


I hope Sly279 doesn't accept that offer for more advice because I seriously doubt it would be doing my gender any favors


Why do you say that?