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12 Jul 2016, 6:28 pm

Interesting though that you brought up white men, twice in fact. You mentioned you were sexually assaulted by a white man and now you mention white shooters. Hmmm you're not biased at all, are you? We can play the bias game all night...at least until I get banned that is.



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12 Jul 2016, 6:29 pm

Men sometimes need to be "saved" by women---what's the big deal about being "saved?"



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12 Jul 2016, 6:39 pm

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Interesting though that you brought up white men, twice in fact. You mentioned you were sexually assaulted by a white man and now you mention white shooters. Hmmm

Because you seem to have a serious "us versus them" mentality, and need to be reminded that not all violence is committed by "them."



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12 Jul 2016, 6:41 pm

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Interesting though that you brought up white men, twice in fact. You mentioned you were sexually assaulted by a white man and now you mention white shooters. Hmmm

Because you seem to have a serious "us versus them" mentality, and need to be reminded that not all violence is committed by "them."

Not all, just a majority when it comes to terrorism.



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12 Jul 2016, 6:42 pm

I'm the sexist, yet you defend a culture that execute women when for being raped.



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12 Jul 2016, 6:47 pm

CommanderKeen wrote:
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If you can't handle being in certain social situations, you shouldn't put yourself out there like that.


Wow.

That's all you got? I could say wow in relation to you. If you are indeed Muslim, yet you accuse me of being sexist; that's so stupid it's laughable.


I understand your passionate but this is a step too far. Not all Muslims are sexist and old school.

Their own prophet had child brides, whom he beat. Women are treated like animals in every Muslim country, they have no rights. When it's socially acceptable to rape little girls, yeah your religion is a problem. Just recently a little girl's nose was cut off, because she wanted to see her parents. Her "husband" did it to her. There was another little girl that was raped to death by her "husband". Muslim SJWs are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. Yeah, it's media bias. The fact is, the media is constantly trying to down play Islamic terror.


What of Muslims in out own countries the ones who speak out against those practices. The men and women who work hard and love the country and wish no violence in it. Christians also committed such heinous acts many years ago

I am personally agnostic so its not my teligion but I don't agree with religion bashing. The media only represents the small number of extremists.

Perhaps it isn't the religion itself but these countries whose laws find it acceptable. In Africa and India they have many issues with the abuse and rape of women and child brides and these are not Muslim countries.



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12 Jul 2016, 6:50 pm

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Mohammad for muslims is like Christoper Columbus for white Americans, a lot were taught that he was a great and peaceful explorer (but turned out to be an enslaver and sadistic) - but both got exposed recently.

Well, that's an interesting analogy.

I'm aware that Muhammad (ﷺ) didn't always conduct himself peacefully. I think sometimes war is necessary, and that he did what was needed to ensure justice and stability among his people. He was warlike when he needed to be, and he was peaceful when he needed to be. This is no different from the other abrahamic religions; even Christianity tells us there is a time for war and a time for peace (Ecclesiastes 3:8). So... that's my perspective. I'm sorry for whatever happened to make you lose your faith, but you won't shake mine.



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12 Jul 2016, 6:51 pm

CommanderKeen wrote:
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That's all you got? I could say wow in relation to you. If you are indeed Muslim, yet you accuse me of being sexist; that's so stupid it's laughable.

Now you're starting to be a bit abusive. The Islam-bashing here is off-topic and uncalled for. You might think Muslims are misogynists, but I think that's just another bigoted stereotype inflicted by an unsympathetic media.

And the fact that western culture is incredibly misogynistic still makes it pretty ridiculous to point fingers anyways. Especially with the lack of education we actually have on Islam in the US. Lots of people like to speak about things they don't know much of anything about.

I'm sorry this dude is being gross, that's pretty much all he does on here from what I've seen.

So, you think child rape is okay?

I'm done being nice. f**k you. I'm a childhood sexual assault victim and I don't appreciate you blaming religion on it. There are plenty of Christian child rapists too. I'm not a moron, so I don't blame entire religions for the actions of few. If I did I would hate Christians considering the fact that the man who sexually assaulted me was a white Christian man.

No where in the Quran does it say "child rape is ok." Islam is a f*****g Abrahamic religion like Christianity. The religions are strikingly similar. Unlike you, I've actually read the Quran and know a number of Islamic men and women. They're good people and feminists. If a Christian woman can be a feminist then so can Islamic women.

Heres a heads up for you: trying to guilt a csa victim into agreeing with religious intolerance by claiming a religion supports csa is a waste of time and is just insulting.

Almost every major terrorist is more than "a few". Also, you already hate men.

That's funny I don't remember saying I hate men. You'd be correct if you said I dislike a lot of men though. I don't hate anyone because it's too much effort.

Also how bout all these white guys who've been shooting up this country? I'm pretty sure they're classified as terrorists by the definition.

You mean the ones few and far between compared to Muslim terrorists? You do hate men, at least you hate men who don't have a progressive mindset, in other world real men with self respect.

That's funny have you missed the number of mass shootings in this country the last few years? Most of them have been carried out by white men.

And how about the domestic terrorism being committed by our police force? Most cops are white too.

Also I'm white so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply. Most of my friends and family are white too. I dislike a lot of white western culture but I don't hate white people. I don't blame people of color who do though.

Also you can claim I hate men all day but t doesn't make it any less untrue. To you, admitting that there are a s**t ton of issues with men and how they are socialised and behave in western culture is proof of hatred. It's because you are unwilling to look at your own actions and the ways you benefit from being a man.

I wasn't aware that being a decent human being meant a man didn't respect himself. Then again you aren't a decent human being so I wouldn't expect you to understand that (:


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12 Jul 2016, 11:08 pm

You people should all stop with this off-topic, it's very annoying and it has nothing to do with the discussion.

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You wrote, "It is veeeeeeery very very common at these comicons to take pics with strangers, everybody does it. It is a standard practice," as if she shouldn't have felt threatened.

YES, that is exactly what I am saying!



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12 Jul 2016, 11:18 pm

I made my point and learned my lesson. Now this thread is going crazy. I want an admin to lock this please.



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13 Jul 2016, 2:24 am

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Mohammad for muslims is like Christoper Columbus for white Americans, a lot were taught that he was a great and peaceful explorer (but turned out to be an enslaver and sadistic) - but both got exposed recently.

Well, that's an interesting analogy.

I'm aware that Muhammad (ﷺ) didn't always conduct himself peacefully. I think sometimes war is necessary, and that he did what was needed to ensure justice and stability among his people. He was warlike when he needed to be, and he was peaceful when he needed to be. This is no different from the other abrahamic religions; even Christianity tells us there is a time for war and a time for peace (Ecclesiastes 3:8). So... that's my perspective. I'm sorry for whatever happened to make you lose your faith, but you won't shake mine.



This lady is saying it's ok to enslave women against warring non-muslim nations (she gave Israel as example).

She is saying that it is OK and halal for muslim war leaders and armies to take non-muslim enemies' women as goodies for pleasure and to sell them too. She said that this practice existed before Islam but Islam "organized" it. lol

This lady is not ISIS, she is a SCHOLAR from Al Azhar university (who is famous enough to have her own program), Al Azhar is the most prestigious islamic education institution in the world for all the 6 major muslim sects (Including Shia).

I am just telling you what she exactly said -I am not some jaded atheist who just finds ruining islam's image as a hobby ....I am just translating things said in your Qur'an, your books and by your scholars, I am not inventing anything from my head.

I guess you understand Egyptian Arabic? No?



I am not trying to save women nor anyone who accepts everything said in this religion, you can do whatever you want.... I don't care except if my sister or my (theoretical) daughter are targeted by this ideology; you do sound deeply involved in islam and not like most moderate muslims who are ignorant of their religions but...seriously, you as a pro-feminism who believes in equality between women and men.....

How can you accept a such thing? I don't get it.

How can you accept sex-enslavement of women ....for whatever reason? How would you justify this? I don't get it.



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13 Jul 2016, 4:08 am

Patrick64, Good luck 8) Sorry these crazy people took over your topic.



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13 Jul 2016, 4:45 am

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I made my point and learned my lesson. Now this thread is going crazy. I want an admin to lock this please.

No idea how we got onto Islam here but I think the OP's request needs to be honoured.
The hijacking was totally unnecessary (both camps) IMO.


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13 Jul 2016, 6:44 am

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You people should all stop with this off-topic, it's very annoying and it has nothing to do with the discussion.
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You wrote, "It is veeeeeeery very very common at these comicons to take pics with strangers, everybody does it. It is a standard practice," as if she shouldn't have felt threatened.

YES, that is exactly what I am saying!


She is allowed to say no or delete that picture though



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13 Jul 2016, 8:47 am

If you follow the path, it was a successful troll. Someone brought up religion based on an avatar, and then took the whole thread into nastiness.

Patrick, more importantly, I hope you find ways to navigate con's better - they are fun. Sorry your thread got jacked.


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13 Jul 2016, 10:36 am

Alliekit wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
You people should all stop with this off-topic, it's very annoying and it has nothing to do with the discussion.
HighLlama wrote:
You wrote, "It is veeeeeeery very very common at these comicons to take pics with strangers, everybody does it. It is a standard practice," as if she shouldn't have felt threatened.

YES, that is exactly what I am saying!


She is allowed to say no or delete that picture though


I agree. People should assert themselves without any repercussion. But you got to thank people like:

Guy: Hey can I get your phone number?
Girl: No.
Guy: What? I'm not good looking enough for you?
Girl: No. I just don't want to give out phone numbers.
Guy: Come on, give me your phone number.
Girl: I already said no, now leave me alone.
you know how this goes.

Because of real harassment, I believe it's hard for some girls to be assertive about rejecting things, so they sometimes report harassment without telling you that you are harassing her. Good job real desperate creeps for ruining it for people that are just socially awkward.