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28 Nov 2016, 7:14 am

Outrider wrote:
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-Be a psycho conspiracy theorist.
-Be an animalistic and blunt womanizer
==>Score!

Noted.


Women really do like a55hles as long as they're confident, according to this thread.

A violent, animalistic and blunt womanizer who quite literally preys on the shy geeky women and sleeps with multiple women in his class and preys on freshman women?

And that doesn't make women uncomfortable with him or scared of him at all?

I'll have to add this to my book:

University Dating Success Handbook:

Step 1: Seek out the shy, vulnerable and easily convinced women. Seek out new students as they don't know of your reputation.

Step 2: Get them alone, subtly separate them from friends and charm them to make them want you.

Step 3: Sleep with them. Pump and dump.

Step 4: Don't sleep with a woman twice. She will ruin you.

Step 5: Rinse & Repeat

Step 6: Make sure you seek out the non-gossipy women so they won't spread rumors or information about your sex life so that it doesn't damage your reputation.

That's literally what's going through this guy's head...

Sounds like something out of Elliot Rodgers book...

Where's the brigade of Feminists calling out what a creepy, misogynistic psycho the guy must have been?

Hello? Feminists? For once in my life I actually wish you were here to save the day, or at least make this thread tolerable again (but don't worry, it'll only be this one time, otherwise never bother me again)!


This guy is a bit messed up because his mum left him and his dad. So his dad hates women. None of the girls realise he is like that. He only spoke to me about when he found out I was autistic and was telling me the 'wonders of casual sex' and the 'natural state of humans'.

He is pretty crazy but sometimes he can be really sweet and kind. He genuinely doesn't understand the issue with what he is doing. As far as he is concerned the women enjoy it so it's not an issue.

He does have one rule though no virgins

He is and interesting guy with some really strange views



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28 Nov 2016, 7:16 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
He sounds like a typical opportunistic rapist.

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No one cares about your garbled viewpoints just take a seat my friend.

Sorry if this was a joke. But ughh just seems so bad.



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28 Nov 2016, 7:21 am

Alliekit wrote:
Outrider wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
-Be a psycho conspiracy theorist.
-Be an animalistic and blunt womanizer
==>Score!

Noted.


Women really do like a55hles as long as they're confident, according to this thread.

A violent, animalistic and blunt womanizer who quite literally preys on the shy geeky women and sleeps with multiple women in his class and preys on freshman women?

And that doesn't make women uncomfortable with him or scared of him at all?

I'll have to add this to my book:

University Dating Success Handbook:

Step 1: Seek out the shy, vulnerable and easily convinced women. Seek out new students as they don't know of your reputation.

Step 2: Get them alone, subtly separate them from friends and charm them to make them want you.

Step 3: Sleep with them. Pump and dump.

Step 4: Don't sleep with a woman twice. She will ruin you.

Step 5: Rinse & Repeat

Step 6: Make sure you seek out the non-gossipy women so they won't spread rumors or information about your sex life so that it doesn't damage your reputation.

That's literally what's going through this guy's head...

Sounds like something out of Elliot Rodgers book...

Where's the brigade of Feminists calling out what a creepy, misogynistic psycho the guy must have been?

Hello? Feminists? For once in my life I actually wish you were here to save the day, or at least make this thread tolerable again (but don't worry, it'll only be this one time, otherwise never bother me again)!


This guy is a bit messed up because his mum left him and his dad. So his dad hates women. None of the girls realise he is like that. He only spoke to me about when he found out I was autistic and was telling me the 'wonders of casual sex' and the 'natural state of humans'.

He is pretty crazy but sometimes he can be really sweet and kind. He genuinely doesn't understand the issue with what he is doing. As far as he is concerned the women enjoy it so it's not an issue.

He does have one rule though no virgins

He is and interesting guy with some really strange views


What are his views?



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28 Nov 2016, 8:11 am

Shahunshah wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
Outrider wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
-Be a psycho conspiracy theorist.
-Be an animalistic and blunt womanizer
==>Score!

Noted.


Women really do like a55hles as long as they're confident, according to this thread.

A violent, animalistic and blunt womanizer who quite literally preys on the shy geeky women and sleeps with multiple women in his class and preys on freshman women?

And that doesn't make women uncomfortable with him or scared of him at all?

I'll have to add this to my book:

University Dating Success Handbook:

Step 1: Seek out the shy, vulnerable and easily convinced women. Seek out new students as they don't know of your reputation.

Step 2: Get them alone, subtly separate them from friends and charm them to make them want you.

Step 3: Sleep with them. Pump and dump.

Step 4: Don't sleep with a woman twice. She will ruin you.

Step 5: Rinse & Repeat

Step 6: Make sure you seek out the non-gossipy women so they won't spread rumors or information about your sex life so that it doesn't damage your reputation.

That's literally what's going through this guy's head...

Sounds like something out of Elliot Rodgers book...

Where's the brigade of Feminists calling out what a creepy, misogynistic psycho the guy must have been?

Hello? Feminists? For once in my life I actually wish you were here to save the day, or at least make this thread tolerable again (but don't worry, it'll only be this one time, otherwise never bother me again)!


This guy is a bit messed up because his mum left him and his dad. So his dad hates women. None of the girls realise he is like that. He only spoke to me about when he found out I was autistic and was telling me the 'wonders of casual sex' and the 'natural state of humans'.

He is pretty crazy but sometimes he can be really sweet and kind. He genuinely doesn't understand the issue with what he is doing. As far as he is concerned the women enjoy it so it's not an issue.

He does have one rule though no virgins

He is and interesting guy with some really strange views


What are his views?


- He absolutely hates autism and being autistic to the point he actively try to be 'not autistic'. To the point he wishes there was a cure
- He doesn't believe in monogamy. Like he will go into full on rants about it and sometimes we end up arguing
- As mentioned he is a conspiracy theorist

Basically we disagree on almost everything so it always makes for an interesting discussion.

There's more personal stuff about sex but I don't think I would be allowed to share it here.



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28 Nov 2016, 8:24 am

But you really are pretty good-looking, Blabby.

Sorry for the bad luck with that woman. I know that sucks.

I'm thinking she tried to get you away from your interest in music speakers and all that.



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28 Nov 2016, 8:27 am

I'm not exactly gorgeous and an Adonis.

As I get older, I'm even less gorgeous and less an Adonis.

I'm not even good-looking any more! LOL Probably less good-looking than Blabby is, actually.

I have Aspie traits that many people find irritating.

But I have found...that if you don't seem like you've given up, and that you at least pretend that you're listening to a certain woman of interest, that you will attain at least some success with her, and maybe some success with a friend of hers.



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28 Nov 2016, 3:23 pm

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Auntblabby do you feel as though people with Asperger's are naturally consigned to their position as being less able to function socially?

I believe the higher functioning ones, especially the ones who got proper social therapy as children, will do about as well as some NTs. but the majority will not do so well. some will be like me and literally luck into one failed relationship that thoroughly discourages them from any other, the others just don't have the right social stuff and won't socially function. my parents were not ready for me, so I was left to figure [or not figure] things out on my own with no encouragement that they were prepared to give. they did the best they knew how but I was not an easy kid to raise. school no help either. this was in the stoned age before much was known about autism here in America.



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28 Nov 2016, 3:31 pm

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But you really are pretty good-looking, Blabby. Sorry for the bad luck with that woman. I know that sucks. I'm thinking she tried to get you away from your interest in music speakers and all that.

thank you, my friend :flower: it had nothing to do with the musics, I suspected something along the lines of BPD, in that I had to walk on eggshells which exhausted me. I don't have the mental skillset to deal with such effectively. something about me brought it out in her and in other people as well, in the general population. I make a good hermit, though :alien:



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28 Nov 2016, 3:47 pm

Shahunshah wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
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If someone wants casual sex that is easily obtainable.


not easily obtainable according to the masses of lonely men on these forums, basically impossible to obtain in fact for the lions' share of us.
Understanable. To a level it might be. Hookup culture from what I know is widspread. And many people on the forum talk about having done it.

the relatively elect [small] group of aspies doing this hooking-up are the highest of high-functioning with the highest social intelligence and highest social rank [NOT omegas]. they are the rock stars of the aspie world, the big fish in a small pond [WP].
I am curious now. Why do you say that? What is your experience of hearing of some of the difficulties people with Asperger's have?
I have noticed that where there are the descriptions of despair from the chronically lonely singleton aspie WPers, the responses, when they come, fall into a few broad categories-

*1-"don't bother us, creep." [the social relationships version of "i got mine, screw you!"]
*2-"you'll find somebody, don't worry."
*3-"what's the matter with you? why can't you do it, it's so easy!" [said by the aforementioned high-functioners]
*some combination of 2 and 3. it needs to be said that 2 and 3 certainly mean well or at least mean no harm, and I hold nothing against them.

extrapolating at least in part from my own situation, the chronically lonely are despairing of finding any answers they can understand, it is all a mystery to them as to why they are stuck in this situation [being social rejects], and any way out seems as far away as heaven- like they were born without a crucial social key [key brain parts/genes] that everybody else has. there is a major feeling of missing something, and, well, being on the wrong planet. :mrgreen: a lot of us cope by being hermits.



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28 Nov 2016, 3:58 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
Auntblabby do you feel as though people with Asperger's are naturally consigned to their position as being less able to function socially?

I believe the higher functioning ones, especially the ones who got proper social therapy as children, will do about as well as some NTs. but the majority will not do so well. some will be like me and literally luck into one failed relationship that thoroughly discourages them from any other, the others just don't have the right social stuff and won't socially function. my parents were not ready for me, so I was left to figure [or not figure] things out on my own with no encouragement that they were prepared to give. they did the best they knew how but I was not an easy kid to raise. school no help either. this was in the stoned age before much was known about autism here in America.

Well I have seen the light. At the start of the year I felt in a way which was very similar. But this year I had a change of heart. I went to a school where I saw people with Asperger's have fun and get along well with their neurotypical peers. This one sympathy friend with ASD I had in a previous school came there as well. Back in 2014 he was almost suicidal and desperate for friends. Nowadays from what I hear a large amount of people at this new school are coming to his party and he has made many new friends. I could never have seen that ever occuring from where I saw him two years ago. Sometimes we get bogged down in a mindset of pessimism which prevents us from seeing what we are capable of.



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28 Nov 2016, 4:00 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
If someone wants casual sex that is easily obtainable.


not easily obtainable according to the masses of lonely men on these forums, basically impossible to obtain in fact for the lions' share of us.
Understanable. To a level it might be. Hookup culture from what I know is widspread. And many people on the forum talk about having done it.

the relatively elect [small] group of aspies doing this hooking-up are the highest of high-functioning with the highest social intelligence and highest social rank [NOT omegas]. they are the rock stars of the aspie world, the big fish in a small pond [WP].
I am curious now. Why do you say that? What is your experience of hearing of some of the difficulties people with Asperger's have?
I have noticed that where there are the descriptions of despair from the chronically lonely singleton aspie WPers, the responses, when they come, fall into a few broad categories-

*1-"don't bother us, creep." [the social relationships version of "i got mine, screw you!"]
*2-"you'll find somebody, don't worry."
*3-"what's the matter with you? why can't you do it, it's so easy!" [said by the aforementioned high-functioners]
*some combination of 2 and 3. it needs to be said that 2 and 3 certainly mean well or at least mean no harm, and I hold nothing against them.

extrapolating at least in part from my own situation, the chronically lonely are despairing of finding any answers they can understand, it is all a mystery to them as to why they are stuck in this situation [being social rejects], and any way out seems as far away as heaven- like they were born without a crucial social key [key brain parts/genes] that everybody else has. there is a major feeling of missing something, and, well, being on the wrong planet. :mrgreen: a lot of us cope by being hermits.
What about arranging a one night stand or using apps such as tinder.



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28 Nov 2016, 4:06 pm

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Well I have seen the light. At the start of the year I felt in a way which was very similar. But this year I had a change of heart. I went to a school where I saw people with Asperger's have fun and get along well with their neurotypical peers. This one sympathy friend with ASD I had in a previous school came there as well. Back in 2014 he was almost suicidal and desperate for friends. Nowadays from what I hear a large amount of people at this new school are coming to his party and he has made many new friends. I could never have seen that ever occuring from where I saw him two years ago. Sometimes we get bogged down in a mindset of pessimism which prevents us from seeing what we are capable of.

i'm glad to hear things are working out well for you. I did not have similar luck in my time, in school which was basically where I hid in plain sight and tolerated 6 hours per day of having nobody to talk to, and having to dodge bullies as best I could. there was no reason for optimism in that place, other than the occasional sympathetic adult staff member who would have been the only ones whose wavelength I could grok. I had NOTHING in common with anybody else there, that I could find.
as for tinder and such, a mystery to me. one night stands seem as forbiddingly arcane a thing to me, as just meeting and establishing basic rapport with people. I could not, while in the army, even persuade a streetwalker to engage with me, the usual feedback I got from them was "F off, creep!" I eventually figured out it was a combination of body language and vocal prosody which gives off bad vibes. this I cannot correct. I am the way I was made. I don't mean to discount any of the logical advices you have given, it is just that I am not really fixable. I was made to a purpose, one that I will eventually discover, probably when I meet my maker and he explains it to me.



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28 Nov 2016, 4:14 pm

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Well I have seen the light. At the start of the year I felt in a way which was very similar. But this year I had a change of heart. I went to a school where I saw people with Asperger's have fun and get along well with their neurotypical peers. This one sympathy friend with ASD I had in a previous school came there as well. Back in 2014 he was almost suicidal and desperate for friends. Nowadays from what I hear a large amount of people at this new school are coming to his party and he has made many new friends. I could never have seen that ever occuring from where I saw him two years ago. Sometimes we get bogged down in a mindset of pessimism which prevents us from seeing what we are capable of.

i'm glad to hear things are working out well for you. I did not have similar luck in my time, in school which was basically where I hid in plain sight and tolerated 6 hours per day of having nobody to talk to, and having to dodge bullies as best I could. there was no reason for optimism in that place, other than the occasional sympathetic adult staff member who would have been the only ones whose wavelength I could grok. I had NOTHING in common with anybody else there, that I could find.
as for tinder and such, a mystery to me. one night stands seem as forbiddingly arcane a thing to me, as just meeting and establishing basic rapport with people. I could not, while in the army, even persuade a streetwalker to engage with me, the usual feedback I got from them was "F off, creep!" I eventually figured out it was a combination of body language and vocal prosody which gives off bad vibes. this I cannot correct. I am the way I was made.
Then consider this Auntblabby the person who I mentioned above was bullied and bullied badly. If this person was able to come out of dark times why can't you honestly. I would say he has the social skills of a cabbage but that would be an understatement. You honestly probably have better social skills then him and if he can find a way to make friends why can't you. How can you explain that person suddenly gaining friends after a year of depression and torment why can't you admit that from where you define Aspies you might be wrong!

Tinder is complicated. But I can still see it being a useful medium for aspies.



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28 Nov 2016, 4:20 pm

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Then consider this Auntblabby the person who I mentioned above was bullied and bullied badly. If this person was able to come out of dark times why can't you honestly. I would say he has the social skills of a cabbage but that would be an understatement. You honestly probably have better social skills then him and if he can find a way to make friends why can't you. How can you explain that person suddenly gaining friends after a year of depression and torment why can't you admit that from where you define Aspies you might be wrong! Tinder is complicated. But I can still see it being a useful medium for aspies.

there is an old expression, "your mileage may vary." i concede that one cannot extrapolate well from limited sample size. but- your aspie friend may have more of the right stuff than I do. he may very well be more intelligent over all or less addled, that is a possibility. I have given off no vibes of having better social skills than your friend. you have not met me to see with your own eyes the totality of my situation, perhaps if you did so you could entertain the possibility that I might have a point in remarking on my own situation.



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28 Nov 2016, 4:25 pm

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Then consider this Auntblabby the person who I mentioned above was bullied and bullied badly. If this person was able to come out of dark times why can't you honestly. I would say he has the social skills of a cabbage but that would be an understatement. You honestly probably have better social skills then him and if he can find a way to make friends why can't you. How can you explain that person suddenly gaining friends after a year of depression and torment why can't you admit that from where you define Aspies you might be wrong! Tinder is complicated. But I can still see it being a useful medium for aspies.

there is an old expression, "your mileage may vary." i concede that one cannot extrapolate well from limited sample size. but- your aspie friend may have more of the right stuff than I do. he may very well be more intelligent over all or less addled, that is a possibility. I have given off no vibes of having better social skills than your friend. you have not met me to see with your own eyes the totality of my situation, perhaps if you did so you could entertain the possibility that I might have a point in remarking on my own situation.
Your self aware that's the thing. I am talking about someone who struggles to understand when he is pressing boundries or annoying others. If you want me to I can tell you all about his social skills I can just to prove a point.



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28 Nov 2016, 4:30 pm

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Your self aware that's the thing. I am talking about someone who struggles to understand when he is pressing boundries or annoying others. If you want me to I can tell you all about his social skills I can just to prove a point.

but the point is that I am NOT really self-aware, because if I was then i'd have long ago figured out how to work around this. the one and only mate I hate for a brief period left me continually scratching my head as to what I said wrong. if I had any self-awareness at all, any theory of mind, any insight, i'd have been able to avoid that minefield altogether. as it is, I myself struggle to know when I am pressing boundaries and annoying others until they blow up. it has ever been thus.