Whys it have to not be ok to ask if a woman likes you?
Only chance would been when we hugged when first meeting up but we went and ate and walked after. Spent total of 3 hours together agter the hug.
so probably not
from what you said, there is nothing really wrong with your date. ok an annoying homeless person and the steak place was closed, but it wasn't your fault. maybe she had some other reason to want to go home early? maybe she got frightened by the homeless guy, or she felt bad. the hugs thing, maybe she is shy in front of her parents? does she mention this friend thing before?
my only advice is to be cautious to not base your self-worth into relationships, and try to not overthink this.
did you arrive fine at home? for me this gun thing is so weird! we don't have it here, as dangerous it can be.
Natural stuff?
Also I apologized after if I held it too long and she said “no it’s ok I didn’t mind”
0.o she also didn’t embrace the hold and kept her hand and arm straight
Why might she felt bad?
Maybe I should stood up against homeless lady but I feel doing so would caused the homeless lady to get more upset.
Mention hanging out with her friend? I dont know she has two out of town and few local. She’s talked about hanging with local ones but said she hasn’t seen this friend in a while. I dont know if she’s trying to blow me off or not. Maybe I should asked to split bill she didn’t offer but maybe kinda reached for purse a few times i dont know.im Bad at reading nonverbal stuff obviously.
My family doesn’t think I like her cause I don’t talk about her. I’ve learned from past where I’d talk about lady’s I like and it never worked out and then I felt embarrassed.
I did thankfully. The park where I waited near had multiple homeless and the buss stop was in a dark spot near river and waited 25ish mins. For me it’s just another thing I carry. I feel less safe without as I can’t defend myself physically despite my size. I’m big and people assume big men are able bodied and good at fighting which is good but if someone’s attacking me they figure they can take on such a person which I’m not. I’m weak, non violent, never fought in my life wouldn’t begin to know how to. Guns don’t make for all that but it doesn’t require skill or strength and thus mostly equalizes me with an attacker. Which country are you in?
I hope to never have to use it, haven’t in 7 years I’ve been carrying. Millions of people do every year though, so it’s not impossible.
I won’t live in a big city every cause of the risks.
by natural stuff i wanted to say whatever happens when we are dating someone. rejection, a slow pace, someone getting busy and being unable to answer/go out for a few days. that's always tricky.
do you know more about her dating context? is she very timid? does her lack of reaction with the holding hand thing is compatible with her other signals or it did came out as unexpected?
maybe she felt bad like a headache or something like that. maybe she remind she must do something for tomorrow morning? i don't know. there's infinite possibilities where it doesn't need to mean you did something wrong, i don't think you should worry too much about it.
there is a possibility she is blowing you out but there is also a possibility that her friend who lives out of town is really visiting and she want to spend time with them. i can't give you advice because i don't know her and what happened, but i think on overall to not overthink things is a good thing. maybe send a message saying it was nice to see her, maybe you should say that you could keep an eye on the steak place so you can manage to go there at some point? it would go an anchor for another date.
i'm from brazil. it's bureaucratic to own guns here, and even more to be able to carry it around.
I agree with everything ltcvnzl put.
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You sound to be expert in using small phones on vibration mode, Syd.
I would go with the facts Sly.
She hasn't exactly said she doesn't want another date so you are still dating really.
She is conservative and this could be another way of saying shy and afraid of intimacy.
She doesn't say much which suggests she is introverted and shy.
That hand pulling away could mean many things and have nothing to do with you - I think she felt overwhelmed.
She seems straight forward with her words when she does speak so I would just wait for her reply.
In the mean time you could tell her how lovely she is and how much you enjoy her company. It wouldn't hurt.
I did wonder if she was ASD? Has this occurred to you Sly?
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from what you said, there is nothing really wrong with your date. ok an annoying homeless person and the steak place was closed, but it wasn't your fault. maybe she had some other reason to want to go home early? maybe she got frightened by the homeless guy, or she felt bad. the hugs thing, maybe she is shy in front of her parents? does she mention this friend thing before?
my only advice is to be cautious to not base your self-worth into relationships, and try to not overthink this.
did you arrive fine at home? for me this gun thing is so weird! we don't have it here, as dangerous it can be.
Natural stuff?
Also I apologized after if I held it too long and she said “no it’s ok I didn’t mind”
0.o she also didn’t embrace the hold and kept her hand and arm straight
Why might she felt bad?
Maybe I should stood up against homeless lady but I feel doing so would caused the homeless lady to get more upset.
Mention hanging out with her friend? I dont know she has two out of town and few local. She’s talked about hanging with local ones but said she hasn’t seen this friend in a while. I dont know if she’s trying to blow me off or not. Maybe I should asked to split bill she didn’t offer but maybe kinda reached for purse a few times i dont know.im Bad at reading nonverbal stuff obviously.
My family doesn’t think I like her cause I don’t talk about her. I’ve learned from past where I’d talk about lady’s I like and it never worked out and then I felt embarrassed.
I did thankfully. The park where I waited near had multiple homeless and the buss stop was in a dark spot near river and waited 25ish mins. For me it’s just another thing I carry. I feel less safe without as I can’t defend myself physically despite my size. I’m big and people assume big men are able bodied and good at fighting which is good but if someone’s attacking me they figure they can take on such a person which I’m not. I’m weak, non violent, never fought in my life wouldn’t begin to know how to. Guns don’t make for all that but it doesn’t require skill or strength and thus mostly equalizes me with an attacker. Which country are you in?
I hope to never have to use it, haven’t in 7 years I’ve been carrying. Millions of people do every year though, so it’s not impossible.
I won’t live in a big city every cause of the risks.
For now, just focus on having more dates with her, forget the sex , touching and 'how to take it further to the next step' stuff.
She already knows you're interested, no guy goes out with a girl tête-à-tête if there's no interest.
And for f*****g god's sake, you don't bring your gun to a date.
^ Aw my gawd, yeah, I forgot about the gun.
May I suggest you bring flowers instead of the gun next time?
I know you feel safer with it but I cannot imagine any lady would be comfortable with it being there - unless she was into guns herself.
Your culture is quite different to mine, I understand that, but still, a gun could be a deal breaker Mr Sly.
May I suggest you bring flowers instead of the gun next time?
I know you feel safer with it but I cannot imagine any lady would be comfortable with it being there - unless she was into guns herself.
Your culture is quite different to mine, I understand that, but still, a gun could be a deal breaker Mr Sly.
My mom and sister didn’t like guns until they’d been almost attacked or had scary people around them now they like I carry it.
Flowers would die probably before I got to my date. I don’t feel they’ll be another date though. and what a waste of money.
May I suggest you bring flowers instead of the gun next time?
I know you feel safer with it but I cannot imagine any lady would be comfortable with it being there - unless she was into guns herself.
Your culture is quite different to mine, I understand that, but still, a gun could be a deal breaker Mr Sly.
My mom and sister didn’t like guns until they’d been almost attacked or had scary people around them now they like I carry it.
Flowers would die probably before I got to my date. I don’t feel they’ll be another date though. and what a waste of money.
If you enjoyed yourself, you shouldn’t think of your dates as a waste of money.
(If your gun is concealed under your shirt, how easily or quickly can you get it out if you were attacked?)
May I suggest you bring flowers instead of the gun next time?
I know you feel safer with it but I cannot imagine any lady would be comfortable with it being there - unless she was into guns herself.
Your culture is quite different to mine, I understand that, but still, a gun could be a deal breaker Mr Sly.
My mom and sister didn’t like guns until they’d been almost attacked or had scary people around them now they like I carry it.
Flowers would die probably before I got to my date. I don’t feel they’ll be another date though. and what a waste of money.
If you enjoyed yourself, you shouldn’t think of your dates as a waste of money.
(If your gun is concealed under your shirt, how easily or quickly can you get it out if you were attacked?)
It’s money could spent elsewhere. I rarely spend money on going out. I save save save and spend on stuff that will be around forever.
Pull shirt up and pull gun. Takes second or two. It’s also about being aware and taking steps to prepare. If threat seems imminent is probably move my hand towards my gun. As is I walk with my hand in my pocket so it’s just pull up and grab the gun as I go.
I can show you some videos of people drawing concealed if your interested via pm.
Well I wish you luck regardless of how this works out.
You have had some lovely dates with a young lady.
I am sure I am not the only one cheering for your side Sly and waiting to hear what happens next in your exciting life.
(mine is quite boring and slow compared to yours)
Remember, women are fickle so give em a tickle
I always bring my lightsaber when I go out too.
Anyways I’m currently giving her pace by not texting her today
So you consider the possibility that some nutty will shoot people at the mall but not that she ever finds out that you have a gun hidden under your shirt when you go out together?
If she noticed and was upset i doubt she’s gone in the date I super doubt she’d agreed to walk down a darknsecluded trail alone with me and I doubt she’d still be texting me. So she probably didn’t notice and if she did she’s like many Americans who doesn’t have a irrational gun phobia
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