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28 Jun 2019, 3:02 pm

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If a woman actually rubbed her breasts or hips on (which I strongly doubt), it wouldn’t be expressing any other emotion besides sexual desire.

May be you are right and I just didn't got it the right way. Beside of that I can't imagine that sometimes nearly a third of the girls in a disco feel that way towards me ... But what do I know about the way that girls feel. :?

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Thus, I think you are onto the right path. :mrgreen:

Hope it. Seems that we share a lot of the way we are thinking about this. :mrgreen:


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28 Jun 2019, 3:05 pm

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Women (NT or ND) who are expressing real interest would do so by engaging you in conversation which would initially consist of small talk.


So, you think that NDs would express interest with small talk, given all the problems NDs have with small talk? That sounds completely wrong to me. I think the only ND women that express interest with small talk are those that have studied typical dating too much.



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28 Jun 2019, 6:15 pm

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Women (NT or ND) who are expressing real interest would do so by engaging you in conversation which would initially consist of small talk.


I think this is normal but many NT girls who are intoxicated or high and walking in a public place they may embrace or unduly touch males. I have often witnessed girls kissing complete strangers but again I stress it tends to be late night affairs.



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28 Jun 2019, 7:08 pm

rdos wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Women (NT or ND) who are expressing real interest would do so by engaging you in conversation which would initially consist of small talk.


So, you think that NDs would express interest with small talk, given all the problems NDs have with small talk? That sounds completely wrong to me. I think the only ND women that express interest with small talk are those that have studied typical dating too much.


I don’t try to hit it off with strangers. Usually, I happen to make an acquaintance through people I know. Then we become friends, talk (a lot!), and, eventually, we date.

I’ve never dated a man who used a cold approached, and I wouldn’t do so. If I did, I would get to know him through conversation. I’m uncomfortable with prolonged eye contact from a stranger (like most people) and would avoid such a person. I would doubt his motives/intentions.


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28 Jun 2019, 7:26 pm

This sort of thing (women kissing men who are strangers) only happens in bars/clubs. And the women would have to be VERY intoxicated.

Maybe within the context of a dance, you might have some women who might "slam dance" a man. Or maybe (again, if she's very intoxicated) she might, spontaneously, start to dance with a man and perhaps do touching stuff.

I've never seen this sort of thing happen when the woman is sober.

And this certainly doesn't happen at bus stops or on public transportation.

Only in bars/clubs.



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28 Jun 2019, 8:20 pm

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I've never seen this sort of thing happen when the woman is sober.

I have seen sober girls flirt with boys they don't know when I was in back in school but only in groups

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And this certainly doesn't happen at bus stops or on public transportation.
Only in bars/clubs.


Actually in Australia a lot of this "drunk girl activity" happens in public places, particularly near train stations and in city streets although the girls tend to be in groups and tend to egg each other on like a dare.



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28 Jun 2019, 8:35 pm

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I've never seen this sort of thing happen when the woman is sober.

I have seen sober girls flirt with boys they don't know when I was in back in school but only in groups

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And this certainly doesn't happen at bus stops or on public transportation.
Only in bars/clubs.


Actually in Australia a lot of this "drunk girl activity" happens in public places, particularly near train stations and in city streets although the girls tend to be in groups and tend to egg each other on like a dare.


What type of guys have you observed drunk girls flirting with?

It’s probably most often a guy in their age group, if not an acquaintance.

Even during the couple of times I’ve been drunk, I wouldn’t have engaged in such behavior. There’s still some level of awareness. I doubt this is a frequent occurrence for any single guy on the forum.


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29 Jun 2019, 2:27 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I've never seen this sort of thing happen when the woman is sober.

I have seen sober girls flirt with boys they don't know when I was in back in school but only in groups

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And this certainly doesn't happen at bus stops or on public transportation.
Only in bars/clubs.


Actually in Australia a lot of this "drunk girl activity" happens in public places, particularly near train stations and in city streets although the girls tend to be in groups and tend to egg each other on like a dare.


What type of guys have you observed drunk girls flirting with?

It’s probably most often a guy in their age group, if not an acquaintance.

Even during the couple of times I’ve been drunk, I wouldn’t have engaged in such behavior. There’s still some level of awareness. I doubt this is a frequent occurrence for any single guy on the forum.


Back in the 1990s to early 2000s I used to attend house parties where girls do kiss all types of guys who are in the house once they are drunk enough. It's fairly debauched and although initially I was excited by the prospect but when it eventually happened and a drunk girl kissed me at a party it wasn't what I expected (admittedly we were arguing over something irrelevant and aggression turned to passion so I was partly to blame although she made the first move). The experience was pretty gross as I found nothing attractive about a drunk girl and after about 5 minutes of each of us exchanging saliva and our tongues exploring the nether regions of our throats we parted and I felt it was something I didn't want to do again (and I didn't)

Among the things I have seen in university dorm rooms include men taking advantage of girls who are passed out and really ugly guys using intoxication as an excuse to fondle attractive but intoxicated girls. In the above instances I do not not know what eventuated as I often left parties when this started happening. I must have had some personal morals and found the whole environment psychologically toxic rather than fun. But you asked which boys got kissed? I would hazard a guess and say all of them did...



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29 Jun 2019, 6:51 am

Of course, I should have said at “house parties,” too. But only, usually, with very young people under 30. And only intoxicated folks make the first move.



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29 Jun 2019, 12:14 pm

To be honest, I prefer OP to be enjoying sexual fantasies in clubs and on buses to him being home alone and depressed, as long as he doesn't get arrested one day for sexual harassment 8O.


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29 Jun 2019, 12:28 pm

If he bumps up against people on buses, the cops might think he’s trying to pickpocket them.



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29 Jun 2019, 8:10 pm

I'm hoping he's not the one initiating the "bumping"



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01 Jul 2019, 5:43 am

Twilightprincess wrote:
rdos wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Women (NT or ND) who are expressing real interest would do so by engaging you in conversation which would initially consist of small talk.


So, you think that NDs would express interest with small talk, given all the problems NDs have with small talk? That sounds completely wrong to me. I think the only ND women that express interest with small talk are those that have studied typical dating too much.


I don’t try to hit it off with strangers. Usually, I happen to make an acquaintance through people I know. Then we become friends, talk (a lot!), and, eventually, we date.

I’ve never dated a man who used a cold approached, and I wouldn’t do so. If I did, I would get to know him through conversation. I’m uncomfortable with prolonged eye contact from a stranger (like most people) and would avoid such a person. I would doubt his motives/intentions.


In that case, you don't follow your own advice. When NT women express interest with small talk, smiling and laughing at dumb jokes, it's with the objective of getting to know strangers for a potential relationship. It's certainly not aimed at getting friends first. The objective might also be a one-night-stand, especially if it is in a bar or pub.

Going from a close friendship to a relationship has nothing to do with small talk and all the rest of it. You would not use a lot of small talk with somebody you know very well as a friend, and you would not laugh at his dumb jokes just to impress him.



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01 Jul 2019, 5:53 am

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When NT women express interest with small talk, smiling and laughing at dumb jokes, it's with the objective of getting to know strangers for a potential relationship. It's certainly not aimed at getting friends first. The objective might also be a one-night-stand, especially if it is in a bar or pub.

Going from a close friendship to a relationship has nothing to do with small talk and all the rest of it. You would not use a lot of small talk with somebody you know very well as a friend, and you would not laugh at his dumb jokes just to impress him.


I would hazard a guess it could be for both purposes...woman are far better at multi-skilling than we are...



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01 Jul 2019, 7:26 am

cyberdad wrote:
rdos wrote:
When NT women express interest with small talk, smiling and laughing at dumb jokes, it's with the objective of getting to know strangers for a potential relationship. It's certainly not aimed at getting friends first. The objective might also be a one-night-stand, especially if it is in a bar or pub.

Going from a close friendship to a relationship has nothing to do with small talk and all the rest of it. You would not use a lot of small talk with somebody you know very well as a friend, and you would not laugh at his dumb jokes just to impress him.


I would hazard a guess it could be for both purposes...woman are far better at multi-skilling than we are...


Sure, but the point is that as ND you don't need to learn how NTs flirt with strangers if you only feel comfortable with "friends first". After all, none of the NT stuff directed at strangers makes any sense when you already are friends with somebody.



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01 Jul 2019, 11:50 am

rdos wrote:
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rdos wrote:
When NT women express interest with small talk, smiling and laughing at dumb jokes, it's with the objective of getting to know strangers for a potential relationship. It's certainly not aimed at getting friends first. The objective might also be a one-night-stand, especially if it is in a bar or pub.

Going from a close friendship to a relationship has nothing to do with small talk and all the rest of it. You would not use a lot of small talk with somebody you know very well as a friend, and you would not laugh at his dumb jokes just to impress him.


I would hazard a guess it could be for both purposes...woman are far better at multi-skilling than we are...


Sure, but the point is that as ND you don't need to learn how NTs flirt with strangers if you only feel comfortable with "friends first". After all, none of the NT stuff directed at strangers makes any sense when you already are friends with somebody.


You can’t become friends without having some sort of conversation. It often starts with small talk and then eventually progresses into deeper conversations.

Subtle flirting leads to a friendship with the hope of something more developing if you are compatible. If not, then there’s still potentially a friendship.

This is how one of my relationships went, anyway.

I often laugh at people’s dumb jokes because it’s the polite thing to do, and it expresses interest in what that person has to say.

I’ve never had a one night stand.


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