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19 Jun 2020, 6:29 am

^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.



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19 Jun 2020, 9:22 am

This has happened to my boyfriend as well.


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19 Jun 2020, 4:45 pm

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^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


It must have been the wording, something was misinterpreted.
I have, thank God, avoided altercations with women-or-men over any perceived sexual interest, at work.
In all cases, I assume the other person is NOT interested.
If I begin to suspect someone is getting uncomfortable (usually woman) then I back off and try to stay away from them. With distance, comes safety. They forget or forgive or both.

However, had a woman at church, or rather her boyfriend, get upset with me. I had not said or done anything inappropriate. She performed a magic ritual. The next Sunday he got really hostile with me, he was clearly jealous.

I think it was the tone of voice I used when I thanked her for the ritual she performed. Too friendly? I do not know. Maybe something in my eyes? Sometimes I think we may come across as too friendly, too genuine, too whatever. Do you think so?

I abandoned the church and never went back. They were there first, after all. Their church, not mine.


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19 Jun 2020, 9:24 pm

As a kid I was very, VERY awkward around girls. In high school some people thought I was gay because of that. It pushed me further into my shell, and it did make me wonder if I was indeed gay. It affected me so much that I didn't have my first real relationship until I was 27.



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20 Jun 2020, 12:01 am

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^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


wow. that is not your fault, i think they were mentally ill. sorry that happened though.


i have been construed as gay pretty much my whole life, but, now that i have moved away from my judgmental parents and can dress how i want, i have had people asking for my pronouns as well.

fun times.


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20 Jun 2020, 12:29 am

auntblabby wrote:
^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


I have been caught out so many times in life through my lack of "Theory of Mind".
Thankfully, I worked in a place that knew I had "issues".



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20 Jun 2020, 12:33 am

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auntblabby wrote:
^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


It must have been the wording, something was misinterpreted.
I have, thank God, avoided altercations with women-or-men over any perceived sexual interest, at work.
In all cases, I assume the other person is NOT interested.
If I begin to suspect someone is getting uncomfortable (usually woman) then I back off and try to stay away from them. With distance, comes safety. They forget or forgive or both.

However, had a woman at church, or rather her boyfriend, get upset with me. I had not said or done anything inappropriate. She performed a magic ritual. The next Sunday he got really hostile with me, he was clearly jealous.

I think it was the tone of voice I used when I thanked her for the ritual she performed. Too friendly? I do not know. Maybe something in my eyes? Sometimes I think we may come across as too friendly, too genuine, too whatever. Do you think so?

I abandoned the church and never went back. They were there first, after all. Their church, not mine.


NTs often/usually have trouble with openness and honesty.
Give them a miss, if you can. :wink:

Erm,
Is your wife one? :scratch:



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20 Jun 2020, 12:36 am

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As a kid I was very, VERY awkward around girls. In high school some people thought I was gay because of that. It pushed me further into my shell, and it did make me wonder if I was indeed gay. It affected me so much that I didn't have my first real relationship until I was 27.


NTs skrewed me big time with their lies, when I was a teenager.
It took a decade or more to recover, but only after I realised the ratbaggery of some NTs.



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20 Jun 2020, 1:32 am

Gentleman Argentum wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


It must have been the wording, something was misinterpreted.

i was told afterwards that i should not mention any physical attributes in the presence of any patient, no matter what. no small talk, no nothing. said i was "not a rock star, only they can chat with women and not offend them," words to that effect.



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20 Jun 2020, 3:59 am

Minuteman wrote:
As a kid I was very, VERY awkward around girls. In high school some people thought I was gay because of that. It pushed me further into my shell, and it did make me wonder if I was indeed gay. It affected me so much that I didn't have my first real relationship until I was 27.
I was very awkward around everyone & still kinda am thou I have gotten a little better. I wondered if I was gay as well for a while. Sexuality & gender stuff has been very confusing for me at times. Thankfully nowadays I have a much better idea of what I am & I accept myself more. It was a difficult process thou & I'm still not really sure how to explain some stuff. I don't exactly conform to common labels.


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auntblabby wrote:
^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


It must have been the wording, something was misinterpreted.

i was told afterwards that i should not mention any physical attributes in the presence of any patient, no matter what. no small talk, no nothing. said i was "not a rock star, only they can chat with women and not offend them," words to that effect.
Sounds like they were on an ego trip.


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20 Jun 2020, 6:08 am

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Minuteman wrote:
As a kid I was very, VERY awkward around girls. In high school some people thought I was gay because of that. It pushed me further into my shell, and it did make me wonder if I was indeed gay. It affected me so much that I didn't have my first real relationship until I was 27.
I was very awkward around everyone & still kinda am thou I have gotten a little better. I wondered if I was gay as well for a while. Sexuality & gender stuff has been very confusing for me at times. Thankfully nowadays I have a much better idea of what I am & I accept myself more. It was a difficult process thou & I'm still not really sure how to explain some stuff. I don't exactly conform to common labels.


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auntblabby wrote:
^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


It must have been the wording, something was misinterpreted.

i was told afterwards that i should not mention any physical attributes in the presence of any patient, no matter what. no small talk, no nothing. said i was "not a rock star, only they can chat with women and not offend them," words to that effect.
Sounds like they were on an ego trip.

i was not attractive enough.



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20 Jun 2020, 8:13 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


It must have been the wording, something was misinterpreted.

i was told afterwards that i should not mention any physical attributes in the presence of any patient, no matter what. no small talk, no nothing. said i was "not a rock star, only they can chat with women and not offend them," words to that effect.


This is for you, a good interview with an Aspie that I can relate with. The particular part for you is when he talks about someone's physical attributes and winds up offending them unintentionally.



The more I look into Asperger's the more I feel like I'm home, everything just clicks. Wish people had known more about it back in the day. People were so ignorant, basically things just went undiagnosed back in the day. Maybe now too?


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20 Jun 2020, 8:34 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


It must have been the wording, something was misinterpreted.

i was told afterwards that i should not mention any physical attributes in the presence of any patient, no matter what. no small talk, no nothing. said i was "not a rock star, only they can chat with women and not offend them," words to that effect.


People jump to conclusions and go from 0 to 60 in a split second. Zero allowance is made for Asperger's. Probably at some level, people you work with get that you're different and cut you a little slack. A patient just coming in won't. Intentions don't matter, NT's draw conclusions based on their arcane formulas which have a limited accuracy rating.

I try to be silent as the grave around folks I don't know, but the NT's are wired to engage others in conversation. So it is a challenge. Best to never talk about another person's personal appearance. I usually reckon that is off-limits, even compliments, they can be taken the wrong way really easily.


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auntblabby wrote:
^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


It must have been the wording, something was misinterpreted.
I have, thank God, avoided altercations with women-or-men over any perceived sexual interest, at work.
In all cases, I assume the other person is NOT interested.
If I begin to suspect someone is getting uncomfortable (usually woman) then I back off and try to stay away from them. With distance, comes safety. They forget or forgive or both.

However, had a woman at church, or rather her boyfriend, get upset with me. I had not said or done anything inappropriate. She performed a magic ritual. The next Sunday he got really hostile with me, he was clearly jealous.

I think it was the tone of voice I used when I thanked her for the ritual she performed. Too friendly? I do not know. Maybe something in my eyes? Sometimes I think we may come across as too friendly, too genuine, too whatever. Do you think so?

I abandoned the church and never went back. They were there first, after all. Their church, not mine.


NTs often/usually have trouble with openness and honesty.
Give them a miss, if you can. :wink:

Erm,
Is your wife one? :scratch:


I don't know how you can miss NT's, they are the majority after all. Giving them a miss would mean not doing anything at all. I just take my chances.

I do not have a wife.


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20 Jun 2020, 10:52 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
^^on that subject, let me relate my own story of misconstrued innocence- i complimented a patient on her artfully applied nail polish, whereupon she turned beet red and boiling mad and immediately called my supervisor to complain loudly. they read me the riot act and i told them they cut me to the quick, i had no intention of "harassing" anybody and that in the future i would not say a thing even if their hands were on fire. they did not appreciate that last bit.


It must have been the wording, something was misinterpreted.
I have, thank God, avoided altercations with women-or-men over any perceived sexual interest, at work.
In all cases, I assume the other person is NOT interested.
If I begin to suspect someone is getting uncomfortable (usually woman) then I back off and try to stay away from them. With distance, comes safety. They forget or forgive or both.

However, had a woman at church, or rather her boyfriend, get upset with me. I had not said or done anything inappropriate. She performed a magic ritual. The next Sunday he got really hostile with me, he was clearly jealous.

I think it was the tone of voice I used when I thanked her for the ritual she performed. Too friendly? I do not know. Maybe something in my eyes? Sometimes I think we may come across as too friendly, too genuine, too whatever. Do you think so?

I abandoned the church and never went back. They were there first, after all. Their church, not mine.


NTs often/usually have trouble with openness and honesty.
Give them a miss, if you can. :wink:

Erm,
Is your wife one? :scratch:


I don't know how you can miss NT's, they are the majority after all. Giving them a miss would mean not doing anything at all. I just take my chances.

I do not have a wife.


I'm retired and am a homebody.
When I go walking I literally walk in the opposite direction when I see people coming my way.
And not because of the Covid virus.
I am just sick of the attitude and related nonsense. :wink:



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21 Jun 2020, 4:28 am

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People jump to conclusions and go from 0 to 60 in a split second. Zero allowance is made for Asperger's. Probably at some level, people you work with get that you're different and cut you a little slack. A patient just coming in won't. Intentions don't matter, NT's draw conclusions based on their arcane formulas which have a limited accuracy rating. I try to be silent as the grave around folks I don't know, but the NT's are wired to engage others in conversation. So it is a challenge. Best to never talk about another person's personal appearance. I usually reckon that is off-limits, even compliments, they can be taken the wrong way really easily.

you are prolly far smarter/cagier than i am, i wear who i am on my sleeves, long ago quit trying to camouflage as human. i can so easily be tricked/distracted out of my stone-faced silence. then the trouble begins. NTs seem to see right through me no matter what i do. :|