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29 Mar 2021, 1:36 am

Eh...

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like are you actually gonna rub my ass all the time while you're talking about squirrel pantry efficiency in real life?

Actually... Probably, yes. It would be difficult not to.



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29 Mar 2021, 5:08 am

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Eh...

Rexi wrote:
like are you actually gonna rub my ass all the time while you're talking about squirrel pantry efficiency in real life?

Actually... Probably, yes. It would be difficult not to.

I like your reasons.
We must prepare some handcuffs for you when you get here. You must learn respect towards squirrels main winter source of food, my incorrigible sweet nut.


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It might not seem like it but I don't enjoy flirting with just any guy. You're right, that's where I was going and I don't really care if I spoil it speeding up too soon teehee. But I think you've got the same wavelengths of thought and openmindedness in significant places with me that I'm able to appreciate.

I've been thinking about the concept of online dating and whether it's really considered serious and real, I guess some people don't think it is. I certainly do crave that physical relationship type but it seems like there's not much difference as long as you can express physical stuff through text that gives me such intense feelings. Then there is the concept of online dating addiction, where you kind of don't want to take it to the next level. I think it's pretty awful if someone can't connect through words and intellectual stuff. And can't see past the physical benefits, wishes and needs. There are way too many I met who just can't deal without it, it makes no sense.

Guys and me, are visual [partly] creatures. That's probably why pornography is broadly successful.

Nah I can't prostitute for the same reasons and more. Besides I try not to involve in illegal activity. I'm actually a virgin [come test it!], the only times I was with men were in my childhood, mostly unconsented.

What, were you never attracted to women that much older? I suppose like science states, youthfulness may be more attractive to men. Isn't it~?


I have not established how old is too old, it is fluid for me. On the other end of the range, I simply doubt that a younger woman would want to settle for an older gent, who likes to go to bed at 6 PM, and does not like loud music or drinking, and sleeps with his cat. Younger women seem to want more excitement or else have kids that they would love for you to support and help raise. No thanks, Mama!

At first you were like "I'm poly, sex all the time multiple partners," now you're a virgin and sex with men was long ago...Ah. So, you flirt for attention, sexual frisson, but in real life, reserved. I knew there was something not quite as it appeared, but you have your reasons, and as I've noted, we (guys) love you here and can't get enough. :heart:

You ask: why not just cyber? what's the big deal that people want to meet and rub sex parts?

Ecstasy comes with the physical. You will not get that intensity from cyber, even with a USB-powered dildo buzzing between your legs during chat. (I don't see you ever going so far as video-chat.) The ecstasy is something that just happens when you are in the presence of a lover, not even necessarily doing anything other than holding hands or talking...

Doing things together adds a new dimension to the experience of reality. Sex is not actually necessary--it is desired-- but most time with another is spent on mundane things like cooking, chores, talking, eating...inventorying nuts in the squirrel pantry...yes, I read ahead.

With cyber, there's cerebral pleasure, yes, and desire burns, but it's cold ultimately, and you're never sure if so-and-so will be around later, those connections come and go, and at night, you sleep alone. It is also possible that the person you are corresponding with has no resemblance to the image built up in the imagination, and the eventual exchange of photos can be a rude awakening. :jester:


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29 Mar 2021, 1:22 pm

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It might not seem like it but I don't enjoy flirting with just any guy. You're right, that's where I was going and I don't really care if I spoil it speeding up too soon teehee. But I think you've got the same wavelengths of thought and openmindedness in significant places with me that I'm able to appreciate.

I've been thinking about the concept of online dating and whether it's really considered serious and real, I guess some people don't think it is. I certainly do crave that physical relationship type but it seems like there's not much difference as long as you can express physical stuff through text that gives me such intense feelings. Then there is the concept of online dating addiction, where you kind of don't want to take it to the next level. I think it's pretty awful if someone can't connect through words and intellectual stuff. And can't see past the physical benefits, wishes and needs. There are way too many I met who just can't deal without it, it makes no sense.

Guys and me, are visual [partly] creatures. That's probably why pornography is broadly successful.

Nah I can't prostitute for the same reasons and more. Besides I try not to involve in illegal activity. I'm actually a virgin [come test it!], the only times I was with men were in my childhood, mostly unconsented.

What, were you never attracted to women that much older? I suppose like science states, youthfulness may be more attractive to men. Isn't it~?


I have not established how old is too old, it is fluid for me. On the other end of the range, I simply doubt that a younger woman would want to settle for an older gent, who likes to go to bed at 6 PM, and does not like loud music or drinking, and sleeps with his cat. Younger women seem to want more excitement or else have kids that they would love for you to support and help raise. No thanks, Mama!

At first you were like "I'm poly, sex all the time multiple partners," now you're a virgin and sex with men was long ago...Ah. So, you flirt for attention, sexual frisson, but in real life, reserved. I knew there was something not quite as it appeared, but you have your reasons, and as I've noted, we (guys) love you here and can't get enough. :heart:

You ask: why not just cyber? what's the big deal that people want to meet and rub sex parts?

Ecstasy comes with the physical. You will not get that intensity from cyber, even with a USB-powered dildo buzzing between your legs during chat. (I don't see you ever going so far as video-chat.) The ecstasy is something that just happens when you are in the presence of a lover, not even necessarily doing anything other than holding hands or talking...

Doing things together adds a new dimension to the experience of reality. Sex is not actually necessary--it is desired-- but most time with another is spent on mundane things like cooking, chores, talking, eating...inventorying nuts in the squirrel pantry...yes, I read ahead.

With cyber, there's cerebral pleasure, yes, and desire burns, but it's cold ultimately, and you're never sure if so-and-so will be around later, those connections come and go, and at night, you sleep alone. It is also possible that the person you are corresponding with has no resemblance to the image built up in the imagination, and the eventual exchange of photos can be a rude awakening. :jester:

So lot of what you said is inaccurate for me and I think it's a stereotypical portrayal of women. Where do I start.

I flirt with strangers offline too, it's not as vocal. I did actually have a boyfriend and I kissed him in front of my mom the first time I met him. He wasn't expecting it and neither did his friends by his sides. I was 16. He was 28.

Im not interested in srs stuff, what are we even talking about.

My oldest bf was 40 years older. I like old men's deficiencies and how their life changes and I think it's cute. 40 doesn't sound old. You're right some of these things are downsides [for example a recent issue was this one man was actually not sexually active except once a week and was traumatized so that was a difficult situation because I felt super attracted to him so I didn't want to go on, also he wasn't going to get on viagra and is going to be looking for a girlfriend in rl for a monogamous relationship. his views also made it clear for me I wasn't gonna want to get close to him much], then again time, im short on it too, and I llive in a different timezone.

I didn't say sex all the time. [hmm maybe I should] Everything you think would be a bad thing for me compliments my physical and mental functions. Being able to flirt and have sex are two different things. Flirting, petting is a necessity of life. Sex only when I heal.

You haven't kept up with catfishing, but I assure you it's not that scary. Moreover I don't care about physical appearance or gender. Since we're giving suggestions, don't be shy and so worried about other guys. You are you.

Most of the times I don't even touch myself because I need to protect my health but I'm not going to get into detail. I really don't believe being able to feel any better offline because everything physical is linked to an intellectual calm, state and hormone release. If you think my hormones aren't maxed, I have news for you, my brain has not been holding back for many years. Recently I've been having physical reactions never before experienced, and it's thanks to r00tb33r here, and he hasn't even visited me. [don't tell anyone buuuutt I also do video.]

People come and go regardless but right now some are trying to visit me and even marry me.

Ecstasy is why im so satisfied. I'm sure it's better than i could focus from touches and the trauma. However that's not gonna stop me letting people come over and getting into the feeling.

Phew. Any more questions I'm going to have to charge.


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29 Mar 2021, 4:38 pm

My husband and I both identify as polyamorous. We don't really understand the difference between having multiple friends and having multiple partners in the sense that one is considered normal and the other strange. We are married and have made a commitment to eachother to be together for life but we don't believe that having other partners makes that commitment less sincere in the same way that its not a betrayal of your best friend to make another friend. That said I love the quote "love is infinite, time space and money are not." Basically, we both would never take up multiple partners at the expense of having the time to be truely dedicated to eachother and any other partners we already had. Right now with covid that means being monogamous because I am immunocompromised and introducing any other partners would be a serious health risk.

Do any other autistic here find monogamy really arbitrary? Because to us it just seems strange when its not really how a lot of people work and we don't have simular hangups with any sort of relationship besides romantic ones.



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29 Mar 2021, 5:19 pm

Rexi wrote:
Gentleman Argentum wrote:
So lot of what you said is inaccurate for me and I think it's a stereotypical portrayal of women. Where do I start.

I flirt with strangers offline too, it's not as vocal. I did actually have a boyfriend and I kissed him in front of my mom the first time I met him. He wasn't expecting it and neither did his friends by his sides. I was 16. He was 28.

Im not interested in srs stuff, what are we even talking about.

My oldest bf was 40 years older. I like old men's deficiencies and how their life changes and I think it's cute. 40 doesn't sound old. You're right some of these things are downsides [for example a recent issue was this one man was actually not sexually active except once a week and was traumatized so that was a difficult situation because I felt super attracted to him so I didn't want to go on, also he wasn't going to get on viagra and is going to be looking for a girlfriend in rl for a monogamous relationship. his views also made it clear for me I wasn't gonna want to get close to him much], then again time, im short on it too, and I llive in a different timezone.

I didn't say sex all the time. [hmm maybe I should] Everything you think would be a bad thing for me compliments my physical and mental functions. Being able to flirt and have sex are two different things. Flirting, petting is a necessity of life. Sex only when I heal.

You haven't kept up with catfishing, but I assure you it's not that scary. Moreover I don't care about physical appearance or gender. Since we're giving suggestions, don't be shy and so worried about other guys. You are you.

Most of the times I don't even touch myself because I need to protect my health but I'm not going to get into detail. I really don't believe being able to feel any better offline because everything physical is linked to an intellectual calm, state and hormone release. If you think my hormones aren't maxed, I have news for you, my brain has not been holding back for many years. Recently I've been having physical reactions never before experienced, and it's thanks to r00tb33r here, and he hasn't even visited me. [don't tell anyone buuuutt I also do video.]

People come and go regardless but right now some are trying to visit me and even marry me.

Ecstasy is why im so satisfied. I'm sure it's better than i could focus from touches and the trauma. However that's not gonna stop me letting people come over and getting into the feeling.

Phew. Any more questions I'm going to have to charge.


I would suggest in regard to the one trying to visit you and marry you--this r00tb33r--if you are experiencing "physical reactions" from "maxed hormones," and you've inspected each other already via video-chat--then go for it! Make his day and just say "yes."

No, I beg of you, don't save yourself for me, I must sacrifice you, that he may taste the golden ecstasy of your caresses. He is a younger fellow and more suitable. I on the other hand refuse to take viagra, insist upon strict monogamy, wear Depends, drive a 1978 Ford Pinto and take Geritol daily. If you misplace my walking cane, I get quite cross, you will hear many variations of "Dangnabbit tarnation" as I sputter complaints into my cough medication.

Catfishing is unkind, and I hope you're not doing that, but you used the word and undoubtedly know what it means. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. You are so naughty, I just don't where to begin, perhaps Rooty will straighten you out once he moves in. Have you picked up a larger mattress to accommodate?


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29 Mar 2021, 5:23 pm

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My husband and I both identify as polyamorous. We don't really understand the difference between having multiple friends and having multiple partners in the sense that one is considered normal and the other strange. We are married and have made a commitment to eachother to be together for life but we don't believe that having other partners makes that commitment less sincere in the same way that its not a betrayal of your best friend to make another friend. That said I love the quote "love is infinite, time space and money are not." Basically, we both would never take up multiple partners at the expense of having the time to be truely dedicated to eachother and any other partners we already had. Right now with covid that means being monogamous because I am immunocompromised and introducing any other partners would be a serious health risk.

Do any other autistic here find monogamy really arbitrary? Because to us it just seems strange when its not really how a lot of people work and we don't have simular hangups with any sort of relationship besides romantic ones.


On the online dating sites, if a guy so much as hints at poly or hookups he loses about 90% of the potential women, based on the dire warnings I read on woman's profiles.


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While being poly might not be popular or mainstream I find poly people are often more mature. Particularly more so than serial monogamous people who go through partners rapidly. It also depends on where you are. In my LGBT circles poly people are just as in demand as monogamous. Seeing poly people on Tinder (especially guys) is iffy though as a lot of guys who put down poly are actually just interested in sleeping around. It is generally a good sign for me if the guy has a long term partner or wife who is also poly as that signals they know how to make a meaningful relationship work. I also always ask to speak to the other partner for anyone I meet on a dating site to ensure that they are not cheating. And yes, you can cheat if you are poly. Cheating is anything your partner might be uncomfortable with you doing that you do without telling them. I also practice kitchen table poly meaning I only have relationships where I would be comfortable having dinner around the kitchen table with all my partners partner and they would be comfortable having dinner with mine. I tend to find that everyone being friendly reduces jealousy and keeps open communication. I also have never had more than two partners at once as that is my "polysaturation" basically can't deal with more than that. I also tend to only have around 5 close friends at once tops and my partners are included in that count.



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Also: I don't value romantic relationships over platonic ones. My husband and I were platonic for 5 years and he was just as important to me then as now. For me romantic and sexual relationships are relationships and friendships are relationships. What matters is not what sort of relationship you have but that you have time and dedication to all the people who you care about and that when you find a high quality person you keep that person in your life in whatever way works for the two of you and the other people already in your life.



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Also: I don't value romantic relationships over platonic ones. My husband and I were platonic for 5 years and he was just as important to me then as now. For me romantic and sexual relationships are relationships and friendships are relationships. What matters is not what sort of relationship you have but that you have time and dedication to all the people who you care about and that when you find a high quality person you keep that person in your life in whatever way works for the two of you and the other people already in your life.

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petraA wrote:
Also: I don't value romantic relationships over platonic ones. My husband and I were platonic for 5 years and he was just as important to me then as now. For me romantic and sexual relationships are relationships and friendships are relationships. What matters is not what sort of relationship you have but that you have time and dedication to all the people who you care about and that when you find a high quality person you keep that person in your life in whatever way works for the two of you and the other people already in your life.


That was / is my opinion as well.
People just devalue relationships these days, in my opinion.
Everything seems to revolve around sex.


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sex is more valuable for those who are kept from it.



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petraA wrote:
Do any other autistic here find monogamy really arbitrary? Because to us it just seems strange when its not really how a lot of people work and we don't have simular hangups with any sort of relationship besides romantic ones.

I don't find it arbitrary, it is just how I work. That's like asking why someone is attracted only to men or only to women if they don't have a similar hangup about their friends.


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sex is more valuable for those who are kept from it.


Every man has a hand :thumleft:


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Gentleman Argentum wrote:
Rexi wrote:
Gentleman Argentum wrote:
So lot of what you said is inaccurate for me and I think it's a stereotypical portrayal of women. Where do I start.

I flirt with strangers offline too, it's not as vocal. I did actually have a boyfriend and I kissed him in front of my mom the first time I met him. He wasn't expecting it and neither did his friends by his sides. I was 16. He was 28.

Im not interested in srs stuff, what are we even talking about.

My oldest bf was 40 years older. I like old men's deficiencies and how their life changes and I think it's cute. 40 doesn't sound old. You're right some of these things are downsides [for example a recent issue was this one man was actually not sexually active except once a week and was traumatized so that was a difficult situation because I felt super attracted to him so I didn't want to go on, also he wasn't going to get on viagra and is going to be looking for a girlfriend in rl for a monogamous relationship. his views also made it clear for me I wasn't gonna want to get close to him much], then again time, im short on it too, and I llive in a different timezone.

I didn't say sex all the time. [hmm maybe I should] Everything you think would be a bad thing for me compliments my physical and mental functions. Being able to flirt and have sex are two different things. Flirting, petting is a necessity of life. Sex only when I heal.

You haven't kept up with catfishing, but I assure you it's not that scary. Moreover I don't care about physical appearance or gender. Since we're giving suggestions, don't be shy and so worried about other guys. You are you.

Most of the times I don't even touch myself because I need to protect my health but I'm not going to get into detail. I really don't believe being able to feel any better offline because everything physical is linked to an intellectual calm, state and hormone release. If you think my hormones aren't maxed, I have news for you, my brain has not been holding back for many years. Recently I've been having physical reactions never before experienced, and it's thanks to r00tb33r here, and he hasn't even visited me. [don't tell anyone buuuutt I also do video.]

People come and go regardless but right now some are trying to visit me and even marry me.

Ecstasy is why im so satisfied. I'm sure it's better than i could focus from touches and the trauma. However that's not gonna stop me letting people come over and getting into the feeling.

Phew. Any more questions I'm going to have to charge.


I would suggest in regard to the one trying to visit you and marry you--this r00tb33r--if you are experiencing "physical reactions" from "maxed hormones," and you've inspected each other already via video-chat--then go for it! Make his day and just say "yes."

No, I beg of you, don't save yourself for me, I must sacrifice you, that he may taste the golden ecstasy of your caresses. He is a younger fellow and more suitable. I on the other hand refuse to take viagra, insist upon strict monogamy, wear Depends, drive a 1978 Ford Pinto and take Geritol daily. If you misplace my walking cane, I get quite cross, you will hear many variations of "Dangnabbit tarnation" as I sputter complaints into my cough medication.

Catfishing is unkind, and I hope you're not doing that, but you used the word and undoubtedly know what it means. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. You are so naughty, I just don't where to begin, perhaps Rooty will straighten you out once he moves in. Have you picked up a larger mattress to accommodate?

No I don't catfish, never did. It's disgraceful, and I'm confident in my own mind and assets. I value my mental health very much. However I know about it.

@r00 dw bae, you're all good :heart:


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Gentleman Argentum wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
sex is more valuable for those who are kept from it.


Every man has a hand :thumleft:

in my case, rosie palm and her 5 sisters is augmented with suzie silicone :bounce: