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06 Sep 2022, 6:12 pm

Why would you think that people weren’t careful before Roe Vs Wade was overturned. That’s a rather ridiculous notion.

Abortion is no walk in the park. Most people took suitable precautions to prevent the possibility of abortion. Most people weren’t stupid enough to not take precautions.

You have some idiots who don’t take precautions…..no matter the status of Roe Vs Wade.



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06 Sep 2022, 6:54 pm

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So basically before roe vs. wade was overturned, no one took sex protection tools seriously for pregnancy, and everyone completely relied on the court to bail them out, should something happen?


They didn't need the court to bail them out.

My question would be, "Are men being more cautious now, considering they'll be financially responsible for 18+ years if an accident occurs?" I've said enough before so I won't get into it again, but most men have no idea how many millions of their own "mistakes" (worldwide) were fixed, without them having a clue.

Lots of men have had more than one "mistake" in their sex life, whether they paid for that mistake or not, and they're either grateful, hypocritical, silent, or blissfully unaware -- while they pass simultaneous judgement on others.


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07 Sep 2022, 1:00 am

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Children don't require housing or transportation? :scratch:

Another thing I forgot on my list from court was the cost of monthly Life Insurance premiums for parents, and the cost of having a Will / Power of Attorney etc., as well as a Will for children (particularly relevant if they are disabled).


Yeah they do, but these are often shared or not particularly expensive.



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07 Sep 2022, 1:24 am

Nades wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
Children don't require housing or transportation? :scratch:

Another thing I forgot on my list from court was the cost of monthly Life Insurance premiums for parents, and the cost of having a Will / Power of Attorney etc., as well as a Will for children (particularly relevant if they are disabled).


Yeah they do, but these are often shared or not particularly expensive.


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A little house with 2-3 bedrooms and a tiny yard costs more than a bachelor apartment.
Houses cost land tax and all utilities.
I already said they are "shared" expenses.
You don't claim the price of your monthly mortgage.
You claim it divided by how many people are in the home.
I'm not sure how transportation isn't an expense.
I drove my daughter an hour each way to school every day for six years.
2 hours per day of gasoline for 6 years.
That was just for school.
It was not on my way to work.
When she was younger I drove an hour out of my way to her nanny.
That was also twice a day.
The bus route would have been about 3 hours each way.
If cars, gas, and houses aren't expensive, please send donations. :)


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07 Sep 2022, 1:46 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Nades wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
Children don't require housing or transportation? :scratch:

Another thing I forgot on my list from court was the cost of monthly Life Insurance premiums for parents, and the cost of having a Will / Power of Attorney etc., as well as a Will for children (particularly relevant if they are disabled).


Yeah they do, but these are often shared or not particularly expensive.


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A little house with 2-3 bedrooms and a tiny yard costs more than a bachelor apartment.
Houses cost land tax and all utilities.
I already said they are "shared" expenses.
You don't claim the price of your monthly mortgage.
You claim it divided by how many people are in the home.
I'm not sure how transportation isn't an expense.
I drove my daughter an hour each way to school every day for six years.
2 hours per day of gasoline for 6 years.
That was just for school.
It was not on my way to work.
When she was younger I drove an hour out of my way to her nanny.
That was also twice a day.
The bus route would have been about 3 hours each way.
If cars, gas, and houses aren't expensive, please send donations. :)


Here it's houses and flats often come a minimum of two bedroom. You really need to go out of your way to find a single bedroom anything. I don't consider it an additional expense, plus buying a one bedroom in comparison to a two bedroom isn't efficient from a price perspective.

Your expenses for gas seem very high too. I'm reality here (here at least) kids are just dragged around wherever parents are intending to go regardless, school is often walked to (or at least minutes but car) and energy, well, they don't use that much more.



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07 Sep 2022, 3:10 am

Nades wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
Nades wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
Children don't require housing or transportation? :scratch:

Another thing I forgot on my list from court was the cost of monthly Life Insurance premiums for parents, and the cost of having a Will / Power of Attorney etc., as well as a Will for children (particularly relevant if they are disabled).


Yeah they do, but these are often shared or not particularly expensive.


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A little house with 2-3 bedrooms and a tiny yard costs more than a bachelor apartment.
Houses cost land tax and all utilities.
I already said they are "shared" expenses.
You don't claim the price of your monthly mortgage.
You claim it divided by how many people are in the home.
I'm not sure how transportation isn't an expense.
I drove my daughter an hour each way to school every day for six years.
2 hours per day of gasoline for 6 years.
That was just for school.
It was not on my way to work.
When she was younger I drove an hour out of my way to her nanny.
That was also twice a day.
The bus route would have been about 3 hours each way.
If cars, gas, and houses aren't expensive, please send donations. :)


Here it's houses and flats often come a minimum of two bedroom. You really need to go out of your way to find a single bedroom anything. I don't consider it an additional expense, plus buying a one bedroom in comparison to a two bedroom isn't efficient from a price perspective.

Your expenses for gas seem very high too. I'm reality here (here at least) kids are just dragged around wherever parents are intending to go regardless, school is often walked to (or at least minutes but car) and energy, well, they don't use that much more.



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My kids never walked to school in their lives (sadly).
They needed daycare before school and after school because I worked long hours.
I was a single parent and I wouldn't let them be latch-key.
At school age, I dropped them off to the daycare provider in the morning.
It was much farther than the actual school.
The daycare person picked them up after school.
I collected them from the daycare person's home.

My kids went to special schools for their talents after age 11.
They were both Gifted and working toward scholarships to Uni.
You might say that's extravagant but it was to help pay for their Uni.
I couldn't have afforded tuition on my own, otherwise.
They also developed their skills / talents in these programs.

Not all kids go to enrichment programs or schools.
These schools didn't cost me any extra, apart from gasoline.

"Dragging where parents intend to go".
Sorry but lol, I'm autistic and I worked about 80 hours / week.
I didn't go anywhere except work and home, or the kids' activities.
I didn't even date when they were growing up.
I did online shopping for groceries.

Kids aren't houseplants.
You can't just leave them in the corner or sprinkle water on their head.
They have their own lives, interests, friends, hobbies, and needs.
Even when they got jobs, they needed drives to work.
Children are people who have to be nurtured according to their best interest.

Regarding food, my kids and I like very few foods in common.
On top of that, we each have specific allergies and intolerances.
It's normal for me to buy 2 or 3 different types of milk (for cereal) for each of us.
My daughter can't do gluten.
I can't do lactose.
Buying food doesn't just mean giving them a bit of my meal.
Everyone's dietary needs needed to be met in different ways.

Anyway, I didn't write the rules for court.
I was just explaining how they determine the cost of each child's needs.


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07 Sep 2022, 1:50 pm

Next summer will be The Summer of Celibacy.


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07 Sep 2022, 2:36 pm

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Next summer will be The Summer of Celibacy.


What a crappy summer.


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08 Sep 2022, 1:26 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
ironpony wrote:
So basically before roe vs. wade was overturned, no one took sex protection tools seriously for pregnancy, and everyone completely relied on the court to bail them out, should something happen?


They didn't need the court to bail them out.

My question would be, "Are men being more cautious now, considering they'll be financially responsible for 18+ years if an accident occurs?" I've said enough before so I won't get into it again, but most men have no idea how many millions of their own "mistakes" (worldwide) were fixed, without them having a clue.

Lots of men have had more than one "mistake" in their sex life, whether they paid for that mistake or not, and they're either grateful, hypocritical, silent, or blissfully unaware -- while they pass simultaneous judgement on others.


That's a great point. So I guess since condoms work 85% of the time, and birth control works 91% of the time, at least way back when I checked, that means that around 10-15 percent of women a guy has had protected sex with have gotten pregnant then?



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08 Sep 2022, 2:03 am

It's not worth it. Families are huge work. That has been the point of dating and sex. And when most people don't even want to spend time with their own existing families why would they make another one that would probably facilitate much more time with the previous.

In my opinion the chances of getting assaulted are so high from casual dating I would rather not do it. I only date people I've known for years and even those I consider major dangers. 99,9% time even if there is no chance of that, it will turn out that the person is still a complete sexist moron so why would I waste time and money on that. And the benefits of being in a relationship are incredibly low, mostly financial and occasionally some mental support (which is quickly overshadowed by the stress of being in a relationship and having to tend to someone elses needs while trying to tend to ones own). If that, because then if you end up getting pregnant there goes that perk of financial reasons and now you have to be a housecleaner and a childcarer on top of all the other minuses of being in a relationship so the tiny bit of mental support is not enough and not even comparable to the mental support of a real friend.

Masturbating is easy and fun. Secondly everyone is stressed and depressed. I'm sorry but I don't know of a bigger antiaphrodisiac then this doomsday hellscape we get news from 247 and the constant threat of wars and diseases and global warming. Having kids in this day and age is a sad prospect if we dont know if even our generation has any future here. Secondly how am I supposed to pay for them to have food if I can barely pay for my own with these price surges in food and energy and basic cost of living? I dont want to be a homeless mother. Healthcare is in crisis, schools and preschools dont have enough teachers for quality teaching let alone safe environment because nobody wants to pay women living wages, so how can they have kids? These are not really promising prospects for a child's future, and women have to push their baby-making for having to re-educate themselves at thirty-somethings to make ends meet because their current professions demand more but give less. Luckily there are some optimists out there or those who haven't a choice, but I think its a logical thing if people decide not to procreate.



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08 Sep 2022, 5:31 am

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=276960053762108



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08 Sep 2022, 7:20 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=276960053762108


Paying to cuddle someone? How regressive. I think that if people are paying to cuddle someone then it's a sign of social problems in a society.

The Japanese are traditionally very introverted and interactions with strangers are seen as a bit of a taboo. They're also very conformist and so many just feel left behind.



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08 Sep 2022, 9:16 am

Trachea wrote:
It's not worth it. Families are huge work. That has been the point of dating and sex. And when most people don't even want to spend time with their own existing families why would they make another one that would probably facilitate much more time with the previous.

In my opinion the chances of getting assaulted are so high from casual dating I would rather not do it. I only date people I've known for years and even those I consider major dangers. 99,9% time even if there is no chance of that, it will turn out that the person is still a complete sexist moron so why would I waste time and money on that. And the benefits of being in a relationship are incredibly low, mostly financial and occasionally some mental support (which is quickly overshadowed by the stress of being in a relationship and having to tend to someone elses needs while trying to tend to ones own). If that, because then if you end up getting pregnant there goes that perk of financial reasons and now you have to be a housecleaner and a childcarer on top of all the other minuses of being in a relationship so the tiny bit of mental support is not enough and not even comparable to the mental support of a real friend.

Masturbating is easy and fun. Secondly everyone is stressed and depressed. I'm sorry but I don't know of a bigger antiaphrodisiac then this doomsday hellscape we get news from 247 and the constant threat of wars and diseases and global warming. Having kids in this day and age is a sad prospect if we dont know if even our generation has any future here. Secondly how am I supposed to pay for them to have food if I can barely pay for my own with these price surges in food and energy and basic cost of living? I dont want to be a homeless mother. Healthcare is in crisis, schools and preschools dont have enough teachers for quality teaching let alone safe environment because nobody wants to pay women living wages, so how can they have kids? These are not really promising prospects for a child's future, and women have to push their baby-making for having to re-educate themselves at thirty-somethings to make ends meet because their current professions demand more but give less. Luckily there are some optimists out there or those who haven't a choice, but I think its a logical thing if people decide not to procreate.


There may come a time when you wish you had a son or a daughter. 40 to 80 is a long time to be alone. Not trying to dissuade you of your position, but this is going to be your future.



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08 Sep 2022, 9:26 am

Yes being alone is something to think about.

On the other hand , when I occasionally watch a youtube video on narcissism I look at the comments and see:
A 72 year old asking how to escape her abusive husband after decades of 'marriage'
People saying they are finally alone and free after a thirty year marriage to an abuser.

So being alone isn't the worst state to be in. If someone with ASD makes themselves very astute by studying narcissism and being cautious in relationships they could get a good result.
But asd people can be spotted easily and seen as a good mark by a narcissist.



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08 Sep 2022, 9:50 am

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Yes being alone is something to think about.

On the other hand , when I occasionally watch a youtube video on narcissism I look at the comments and see:
A 72 year old asking how to escape her abusive husband after decades of 'marriage'
People saying they are finally alone and free after a thirty year marriage to an abuser.

So being alone isn't the worst state to be in. If someone with ASD makes themselves very astute by studying narcissism and being cautious in relationships they could get a good result.
But asd people can be spotted easily and seen as a good mark by a narcissist.


So we have a confirmed contrarian here.

I'm going to bet the number of unmarried (or otherwise w/o partner), childless and poor women aged 72 is many orders of magnitude larger than the number of women aged 72 with abusive husbands. Is your advice don't get married, or sorry that you are elderly, alone and poor but at least you are not in an abusive marriage? Even at 72 you can get out of an abusive marriage, with wealth, but if you are elderly, alone and poor it will almost certainly never get better.



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08 Sep 2022, 11:16 am

I'm basically saying that being in a good marriage is the best situation, having a good relationship with your grown children when you are elderly is also great. But reaching for this can lead into the trap of the abusive marriage which is the worst situation of all.

See the thread: 'bullied into adulthood' for what can often happen to those with ASD.
If you don't have loads of experience you won't see a narcissist coming , and due to the love bombing warnings often fall on deaf ears.

So I would say proceed with extreme caution. Sharing your living space with someone is risky unfortunately... I wish it wasn't as a good marriage is a great thing to have