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11 Sep 2007, 5:26 pm

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LePetitPrince, thanks for the article -- it was very enlightening. I forwarded it to my two closest friends (who are 6'3" & 5'11").

And it just proves what I've already known and observed: that I've made a substantial decision by boosting my height from 5'7" to 5'9". As the article says, the average male height in America in 5'8", so, I was below average -- now I'm above average. In less than a week of having the shoes, I've already experienced the difference in social reactions:
1. Girls look at me nicer, and longer, than before.
2. More people I don't know smile at me and/or verbally greet me.

I get the feeling people here think short people are "up to no good" or something. The "...scheming little short people..." :roll: :roll:
Note that someone deemed to be conniving is almost always called "little", i.e., "that little punk". Of course, "big" is used as an insult too, but not nearly as often.


Your experience reminds me of Gwyneth Paltrow' s experience that she talked about in the making of Shallow Hal movie. The director wanted her to experience the obese's social life . So they made her to wear the 'mech of obese woman' that was actually used in the movie in her 'fat scenes' and she went to a public bar , she told that no one in the bar seem really want to talk to her or even interested to look at her and this is out of the ordinary to her . I remember she said that this was an ugly and sad experience .



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11 Sep 2007, 5:52 pm

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hmm I can relate you about the posture thing , in fact I have 14 degree of Scoliosis since i was child. The doctor gave me a kind of brace to wear it for a year but it gave ineffective results , he told me that it possible to straight up my spine with a surgery but it's not worth it since 14 degree is considered mild case and the surgery cost too much and cause too much pain for long term too , he told me that it would only necessary if it's more than 30 degree .So he and many other doctors adviced me to not to do it .

In other hand , I rarely feel pain in my lower back except when I do some working out ...that's why I usually avoid stomach exercising where you have to lean on your back and push your shoulder forward....but I can do push-up easily .

As for look , some honest friends told me that I look wrong and not quite sided vertical( my right shoulder looks slightly higher than the other one) when i stand up , most people tell me nothing abt this tho ...but maybe they just feel embarrassed to tell me.

Scoliosis seems to be genetic , my aunt has it more severely and my mom has it more mildly than me , and it also cause you to lose few inches of height since the spine is horizontally 'bowed' .


I don't know how my crooked my spine is.

Overall, I think I have low muscle or something. I always have a sloppy/lazy sort of gait in everything I do.

I mumble my speech, and slur words: I'm not moving my mouth enough when I speak.

I trip and fall, I'm not lifting my legs enough when I walk. I'll slide my feet along the ground...

I don't sit up straight, I just let everything just fall... slunched over.

Whenever I try to do something, I like to support myself with a wall or lean into something.

I don't sit, I just plop down.

I don't set things down, I just drop and toss it to the ground.

All of these little things I've noticed, they all seem related somehow.


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11 Sep 2007, 7:05 pm

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The shoes make a minor but significant improvement in my daily lifestyle. They're functional for being able to reach things easier, like in my particular job, top shelves at home, etc. When I exercise, I wear my normal shoes, and stand 5' 7", and ya know what? I feel just fine wearing my regular shoes in the gym -- I'm personally secure in being 5'7". But I get more done, and have less trouble, in the world being 5'9". It's a practical matter. The problem is with the world, not with my height. But I can either scream from my rooftop for the world to change, or I can simply adapt.

(And they have a nice, wide assortment of all styles in any certain exact height. I could be 5'11" if I liked dress shoes, but I don't.)


When you talk about your height are you talking with shoes or without?


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12 Sep 2007, 12:50 am

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LePetitPrince wrote:

hmm I can relate you about the posture thing , in fact I have 14 degree of Scoliosis since i was child. The doctor gave me a kind of brace to wear it for a year but it gave ineffective results , he told me that it possible to straight up my spine with a surgery but it's not worth it since 14 degree is considered mild case and the surgery cost too much and cause too much pain for long term too , he told me that it would only necessary if it's more than 30 degree .So he and many other doctors adviced me to not to do it .

In other hand , I rarely feel pain in my lower back except when I do some working out ...that's why I usually avoid stomach exercising where you have to lean on your back and push your shoulder forward....but I can do push-up easily .

As for look , some honest friends told me that I look wrong and not quite sided vertical( my right shoulder looks slightly higher than the other one) when i stand up , most people tell me nothing abt this tho ...but maybe they just feel embarrassed to tell me.

Scoliosis seems to be genetic , my aunt has it more severely and my mom has it more mildly than me , and it also cause you to lose few inches of height since the spine is horizontally 'bowed' .


I don't know how my crooked my spine is.

Overall, I think I have low muscle or something. I always have a sloppy/lazy sort of gait in everything I do.

I mumble my speech, and slur words: I'm not moving my mouth enough when I speak.

I trip and fall, I'm not lifting my legs enough when I walk. I'll slide my feet along the ground...

I don't sit up straight, I just let everything just fall... slunched over.

Whenever I try to do something, I like to support myself with a wall or lean into something.

I don't sit, I just plop down.

I don't set things down, I just drop and toss it to the ground.

All of these little things I've noticed, they all seem related somehow.


it sounds serious ...did u go to any doctor?



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12 Sep 2007, 7:32 am

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it sounds serious ...did u go to any doctor?


No, it's not anything I really noticed until I started to think and pull everything together.

I do think I have some sort of cognition issues or something, I'd like to see a doctor and psychologist.

It's never been a big enough of a problem though, so nobody noticed anything when growing up.


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12 Sep 2007, 9:10 am

I'm only 5ft 1in but most of the guys I've dated ended up mostly over 6ft tall.



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12 Sep 2007, 9:11 am

pain in the neck?



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12 Sep 2007, 9:26 am

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pain in the neck?


Just a bit... dated a guy that was 6ft 8in... nothing like really awkward.



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12 Sep 2007, 9:56 am

GoatOnFire wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
The shoes make a minor but significant improvement in my daily lifestyle. They're functional for being able to reach things easier, like in my particular job, top shelves at home, etc. When I exercise, I wear my normal shoes, and stand 5' 7", and ya know what? I feel just fine wearing my regular shoes in the gym -- I'm personally secure in being 5'7". But I get more done, and have less trouble, in the world being 5'9". It's a practical matter. The problem is with the world, not with my height. But I can either scream from my rooftop for the world to change, or I can simply adapt.

(And they have a nice, wide assortment of all styles in any certain exact height. I could be 5'11" if I liked dress shoes, but I don't.)


When you talk about your height are you talking with shoes or without?


5' 7" is without shoes
5' 7.5" is with normal shoes
5' 9.5" is with these elevator shoes:
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12 Sep 2007, 10:01 am

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GoatOnFire wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
The shoes make a minor but significant improvement in my daily lifestyle. They're functional for being able to reach things easier, like in my particular job, top shelves at home, etc. When I exercise, I wear my normal shoes, and stand 5' 7", and ya know what? I feel just fine wearing my regular shoes in the gym -- I'm personally secure in being 5'7". But I get more done, and have less trouble, in the world being 5'9". It's a practical matter. The problem is with the world, not with my height. But I can either scream from my rooftop for the world to change, or I can simply adapt.

(And they have a nice, wide assortment of all styles in any certain exact height. I could be 5'11" if I liked dress shoes, but I don't.)


When you talk about your height are you talking with shoes or without?


5' 7" is without shoes
5' 7.5" is with normal shoes
5' 9.5" is with these elevator shoes: Image


Nice white shoes you got. They are either new or someone just collects white shoes to keep them clean. :lol:



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12 Sep 2007, 12:49 pm

Rag, using these shoes in your daily life is like living in the Matrix . I prefer to live reality than living a lie even if it's ugly.
You wear look Neo , so go back to reality Neo :D



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12 Sep 2007, 1:13 pm

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Rag, using these shoes in your daily life is like living in the Matrix . I prefer to live reality than living a lie even if it's ugly.
You wear look Neo , so go back to reality Neo :D


I comb my hair every morning, even though it's more real not to. No one says that combing one's hair is "living a lie", yet these shoes serve more purpose than combing my hair does. Combing my hair serves only the purpose of what other people see, whereas my shoes help me to reach things more easily, and to walk faster everywhere I need to go everyday. I'm an impatient walker, usually walking as fast as possible everywhere I go -- but with short legs, it never feels fast enough for my brain, and I start daydreaming. But now, I'm faster, because my legs are effectively longer.

Does a person who shaves every morning "live a lie"? How about a person who uses mouthwash every morning? How about a person who takes showers? All these things could be viewed as "denying who you are", but obviously they're viewed as simply being practical toward living in society. Same for the shoes. Are very short women who wear high heels "living a lie"? Are they "not being true to themselves"? Personally, I think shorter people have more right to wear these shoes than medium-height people who just want to be tall just for the fun of it, just as parapalegics have more right to use a wheelchair than people who can walk just fine but want to use a wheelchair for the fun of it.

My point is that it's all a matter of individual perception. One has to draw one's own lines for when one is "not being true to" oneself.


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12 Sep 2007, 1:18 pm

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Same for the shoes. Are very short women who wear high heels "living a lie"? Are they "not being true to themselves"?


I admit that you have a point here , women wear heels for the same reasons that you are talking about .



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12 Sep 2007, 3:01 pm

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Same for the shoes. Are very short women who wear high heels "living a lie"? Are they "not being true to themselves"?


I admit that you have a point here , women wear heels for the same reasons that you are talking about .


High heels are less practical than Ragtime's shoes. They don't help women walk faster, they're purely for vanity (not that I mind :P). It makes them taller and it makes their asses look better.


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12 Sep 2007, 3:06 pm

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Same for the shoes. Are very short women who wear high heels "living a lie"? Are they "not being true to themselves"?


I admit that you have a point here , women wear heels for the same reasons that you are talking about .


High heels are less practical than Ragtime's shoes. They don't help women walk faster, they're purely for vanity (not that I mind :P). It makes them taller and it makes their asses look better.


...and their legs... ^_^


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12 Sep 2007, 3:12 pm

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Same for the shoes. Are very short women who wear high heels "living a lie"? Are they "not being true to themselves"?


I admit that you have a point here , women wear heels for the same reasons that you are talking about .


I hate high heel shoes (guy here)... I'm more attracted to women who make the concentrated effort to never wear them.

You bring up some interesting points Ragtime.

Anything that is purely for another's aesthetic benefit, I find rather pointless. Looking clean, decent, functional and comfortable is all that really matters.

You got me on the combing the hair part, but honestly I have long hair... so I have to comb it to get it out of my eyes and not annoy me. But I use no products other than shampoo and conditioner.


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