How to tell if a girl is interested in you

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In the course of this thread's seven pages - which admittedly I haven't read - this may have already been said, but I'll say here what I say to everyone; there's only one surefire way to tell if a girl likes you, and that's to ask them. Hell, even that's not guaranteed. Of course that is harder for someone with ASP than it is for anyone else...

Brains are part of your anatomy. It isn't an either/or thing, man. Biology and environment are constantly playing off one another. They are only static for snapshots in time.

Notice how the article states that women care actually much MORE aggressive when they won't be caught out?

What have I been saying all along? Passive aggression is used when straightforwardness is uncalled for or impractical. Therefore, when women can get away with it, they use violence, which is backed up by stats.

My exact message was that it depends mostly on circumstances. We are all responsible for circumstances; bittorrent of guilt.

I can think of a very specific counterexample to that claim: PRISON. I donno about candian prisons
but here in the US, rape is the Order of the Day in overcrowded state prisons. The only way to stop it
is for inmates to have their own cells AND to be monitored and tracked 100% of the time when they're not in lockdown.
There are just too many inmates and not enough guards in state prisons to make that feasible.
It isnt just US prisons, Rape is rampant in latin american prisons and even in the Soviet Gulags.
As it turns out, rape in NOT unique to humans! No matter WHO runs society, men will rape. Sometimes they rape children and/or each other. BTW Kurtz, WHERE did you get the assinine idea that Stranger Rape is practically non-existant?
What is true about stranger rape is that it usually involves a Group of YOUNG men when it takes place outside of a building or place of dwelling. There are places in the US where armed men break into peoples houses and especially appartments and if theres a woman who looks young enough they rape her in addition to robbing the place.One thing that is clear about rape is that
the perpetrators of rape are mostly young men under the age of 30.

Let me point out to you Kurtz that according to the NBCS, 90% of Murders are comitted by men. To the guy who claimed that the main differences between men and women are their external appearance, HOW do you explain that statistic??
Women seem to only use physical violence when they are unable to get their way by using emotional violence and/or passive-aggression. Havent you noticed kurtz that while women are competitive, they dont seem to be quite as Jealous as men....

Sure they are. But they differ far less than other pronounced differences. In fact, they overlap to the point where, as evidenced by the change in aggression, our social conditioning more than outweighs any inherent differences. And, in qualities that aren't regulated by society, there's next to no difference. My point being, wrt this line...There is little to no difference in behavior between men and women, less of course behaviors regulated by society, and no way rape wouldn't exist in a society run by men unless the term wasn't anywhere near what is meant now. Rape is rape. Men rape, women rape. People rape.

That's what happens when certain behavior is encouraged, and then those restrictions are removed? Right before that line, they mention...
Shocking that imbalances tend to lead to other imbalances. Is there anything else you would like to cherry pick?

That is exactly why stats w/o information about confounds are misleading and/or meaningless. Care to guess what that confound is?

Can you F****** read?

I'm getting annoyed with say the opposite/say the same thing. This is a waste of my valuable time. YOU say this is all biology, then post a link "discrediting" me for saying what you said.

This is a matter of economics, not biology.

Do you have a point beyond re-wording my posts, then contradicting what you yourself are arguing? If so, out with it. If not, there's a natural satellite orbiting this planet which is in dire need of attempted airborne coitus.

= HYPERBOLE
=LICENSE
=OBVIOUS EXAGGERATION WHICH PARADOXICALLY SHEDS LIGHT ON TRUTH
=CHANGE YOUR PAD, NANCY

Notice how none of the women are taking issue with this, only a bunch of Alan Aldas with their bulletproof sweatervests wading into this one...

Oh, hey, you must be new here.
1) "Obvious exaggeration" isn't always taken as obvious around these parts. Things are going to be taken quite literally at times. Any guess as to why? Any at all?
2) Sheds light on truth? That'd be rather subjective, but convenient for you to say, since you just got finished telling someone off for not taking something as you intended...which could just as easily be painted as your own fault, and not theirs.

The whole "change your pad, Nancy" comment, I guess that's just further evidence that you don't think all that highly of women.

Maybe none of them consider you even worth responding to? Maybe most of them have the restraint to not tell you off? Perhaps some that would have responded haven't checked the thread since then, and therefore don't realize that you've said something else that's disagreeable to them? There's so many different reasons why a woman could decide to not post here, more than solely the overly simplistic "They agree with me! ." Insulting the men that do post is a rather weak way to try and silence anyone that disagrees with one of your views.

If you're thinking of labeling me as one of those "Alan Aldas" can I get my bulletproof article of clothing in a hooded sweatshirt? I'm really not a fan of the sweater vest.

There's nothing contradictory about my comments, if that's what you're trying to imply. I'm not sure since your language isn't exactly explicit. In my last post, what I was stating was that the behavior you quoted was likely exaggerated because it was socially moderated. The point being that for traits that aren't socially moderated, there is little to now difference between sexes, and those that are socially moderated tend to vacillate when the forces behind them are removed, implying that those differences are social rather than native.

Ultimately, my main point was the same. That there is no basis for the statement I quoted in my last two posts regarding what you posted. That being said, if your statement wasn't literal, I don't know why you would get in a tizzy about it on a forum where a significant portion of the posters don't have what many would consider to be conventional communication interpertation. I apologize if I didn't understand your comment, but in the future, you may want to consider stating that your comment wasn't literal before, to take a phrase from yer playbook, getting yer panties in a bunch.

P.S. What shadexiii said about sweatervests, hoodies ftw1!

P.P.S. Everything I wrote actually means whatever it needs to mean such that I paradoxically shed light on all truths.

Last edited by yesplease on 23 Nov 2007, 1:01 pm, edited 2 times in total.

That is not a true statement Yesplease, and I have a feeling you know this. Rape by women is extremely rare!. Fewer than 1 in 1000 rapists is a woman. So that statistic alone debunks your claim that there are no behavioural differences between men and women beyond what they're taught by society.

Well, if we removed the social conditioning/counfounds regarding certain stereotypes about men and women, then that statistic may be valid. That being said, there may be more incidences of sexual abuse by females w/o the consent of their partner due to social norms (A il0l3d example of this is South parks' "Miss Teacher Bangs a Boy"). It's analogous to stating that social climate in Ecuador is better towards women because there aren't as many reported cases of rape, even though, as was mentioned earlier, this isn't because Ecuador has a better social climate for women, but because there are more penalties for coming forward about rape.


Along those lines, men are less likely to report rape in our society.

They may also be less likely to dislike what most see as rape due to social norms and also be more likely to rape for those reasons.

That being said, perhaps if we were to remove the social confounds influencing the data, we could find significant qualitative and quantitative differences between the sexes. But, based on research, there are few differences in the behavior of men or women, except of course in those behaviors dictated by social norms. In order to evaluate those, we would need to remove the impact of social norms consistently, which is fairly hard if not impossible to do. The statistics will reflect our behavior as a society, not inherent differences in male/female behavior. unless we control for confounds.

*sigh* This is the typical leftist bollocks that many people in sociology Still cling to despite the fact that science has completely debunked it. Now as far as rape is concerned I was not referring to "statutory rape"! I was referring to rape as in forced sex where the victim is physically attacked while conscious and forcibly penetrated. That is where the statistic I gave applies.
There is a famous counterexample of a boy who was raised as a girl and "conditioned" to be feminine according to society's standards........it appeared to work while he was a child but then it really backfired once he hit puberty and started getting his hormones(BTW, FYI, his name was David Reimer).


Based on What research?? You realize the basis for human behaviour is the BRAIN.
Womens brains have been found to have structural differences AND differences in the levels of neurotransmitters
in various parts of the brain compared to men.Now it turns out the statistics I gave for Homicide are world-wide and not unique to the united states. Violent behaviour in young men transcends are social and cultural boundaries.

I wasn't either. The humorous pop-culture reference I talked about otoh did. That being said, what I based my statements on weren't humorous takes on this subject. It was this. It makes no mention of statutory rape.

There is another famous counter example of a anecdote named lolz that was raised to use anecdotes in dubious support of claims. Along the same lines, because the number 4 is an integer, all numbers must be integers.

Go back a couple of my posts in this thread and you'll find it. IIRC it's on page six or seven.

Linkz plz. You stated that in a post on page eight and didn't post any more info about it. Your statement is vague to the point where I can't find any reference to it via a search engine (ala 90% men murder NBCS). Course, like I said before, statistics are meaningless unless the culture they were taken from controls for confounds. Does this data allow for controls of social confounds?

What you just said there is meaningless and does nothing to invalidate the counterexample I gave. There was a book released a few years ago about David Reimer(BTW, dont take my word for it, googlesearch his name!) with the title: As nature made him. Got any evidence that studies of human behaviour-specifically violent behaviour show different gender skews from other cultures?



Got any Evidence to back this up?? Since You made the claim my friend, the burden of proof is on You to demonstrate it.

Precisely! It's meaningless as your counterexample because we're not talking about something that's influenced by a single example to the contrary. There are plenty of outliers in both sexes, but that doesn't mean that both sexes are or aren't reasonably similar in terms of qualitative and quantitative descriptions.

Did you read my last post? I told where it was...



Anyway, here's a clip from the article...

So, gender differences had little to no impact on most of the variables examined, and where there were significant differences, there were also confounds due to gender norms.

I already told ya where it was, but I suppose it's too much to ask for ya to go back a page and read.

If the case of David Reimer-or the guy himself is just a statistical outlier do you have any examples where a boy was raised as a girl and the results turned out in favor of the claim that men and women are psychologically identical? Look at the comments posted to this arcticle bya user named zitface:

http://boards.boston.com/n/pfx/forum.as ... &tid=20918

"I used to believe boys and girls could be taught, treated, raised, disciplined, motivated the same.Then I had two of each.
"

Now I read the article you got your quotes from and in the last paragraph-it suggests that those who claim that behavioural differences between men and women are the result of "nuture" and not nature believe that such views are essential to gender equality. So its pretty obvious that Dr. Hyde and the authors of that article you site have an agenda. People with an Agenda will say Anything, no matter how untrue, that will promote the cause of their agenda. Its really nice how the Tabula Rasa theory-a theory that was MADE UP by a famous 18th century philosopher so neatly fits the agenda of today's far left. Its clear that you subscribe to this belief as you have not bothered to introduce any articles from neuroscience.