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02 Feb 2008, 2:48 pm

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Mikomi, would you date a stripper man?


I'm married.

If I were still on the "dating scene", it would depend on the person. If you're inquiring as to whether a man's job would preclude our dating, no, probably not. Unless he was doing something illegal, then that would be something different. Otherwise I would want to know him before assuming anything. To dismiss the possibility of a relationship with a person based on their job might be letting go of what could be a really happy, fulfilling relationship with a wonderful person.



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02 Feb 2008, 2:50 pm

^^ stripping is not a normal job , it is a visual whoring of your own body.

Well, would you agree if your current husband works as stripper?



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02 Feb 2008, 2:54 pm

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To dismiss the possibility of a relationship with a person based on their job might be letting go of what could be a really happy, fulfilling relationship with a wonderful person.


What if they're a porn actor? Or better yet, what if they're an Escort?
Would you feel comfortable if your hubby decided to beome a Gigolo? You see, sex workers(not precluding strippers)really Do have difficulty with relationships considering that their job involves direct or even indirect sexual behviour towards strangers. Undoubtedly there are strippers who dont whore themselves out but you cannot deny the sexual nature of dancing with your clothes off in front of the opposite sex. Women who like to show off their bodies without having to interact personally with their male audience become burlesque dancers. Strippers on the other hand actually meet and talk to patrons of the club.



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02 Feb 2008, 3:36 pm

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There's no way to explain reality to you, you've made up your mind, like Bill O'Reilly, that your opinion, no matter how wrong, is fact.


I've developed a habit of scrolling past LPP's posts without reading, as if they were advertisements.

You may wish to give that a shot yourself. It saves both time and aggravation.


Thanks. Will do from now on.

LPP: "The earth is flat!"

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LPP: "You're in denial! The earth is flat!"


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02 Feb 2008, 3:41 pm

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To dismiss the possibility of a relationship with a person based on their job might be letting go of what could be a really happy, fulfilling relationship with a wonderful person.


What if they're a porn actor? Or better yet, what if they're an Escort?
Would you feel comfortable if your hubby decided to beome a Gigolo? You see, sex workers(not precluding strippers)really Do have difficulty with relationships considering that their job involves direct or even indirect sexual behviour towards strangers. Undoubtedly there are strippers who dont whore themselves out but you cannot deny the sexual nature of dancing with your clothes off in front of the opposite sex. Women who like to show off their bodies without having to interact personally with their male audience become burlesque dancers. Strippers on the other hand actually meet and talk to patrons of the club.


No, you're right - I'd never date a corporate lawyer, but other people think that's an honorable profession. I guess it depends upon your point of view. I don't think an anti-abortionist would ever date someone who worked for Planned Parenthood, nor would a vegetarian date a butcher.

But there were FAR bigger sluts in my secretarial jobs than when I was dancing. Man, those suit-clad office girls I worked with will hump anything that moves, with a few rare exceptions. The stories they told over lunch Monday morning about what they did that weekend would make The Editor of National Review blush.


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02 Feb 2008, 4:00 pm

earth is irregular sphere.


fabshelly wrote:
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To dismiss the possibility of a relationship with a person based on their job might be letting go of what could be a really happy, fulfilling relationship with a wonderful person.


What if they're a porn actor? Or better yet, what if they're an Escort?
Would you feel comfortable if your hubby decided to beome a Gigolo? You see, sex workers(not precluding strippers)really Do have difficulty with relationships considering that their job involves direct or even indirect sexual behviour towards strangers. Undoubtedly there are strippers who dont whore themselves out but you cannot deny the sexual nature of dancing with your clothes off in front of the opposite sex. Women who like to show off their bodies without having to interact personally with their male audience become burlesque dancers. Strippers on the other hand actually meet and talk to patrons of the club.


No, you're right - I'd never date a corporate lawyer, but other people think that's an honorable profession. I guess it depends upon your point of view. I don't think an anti-abortionist would ever date someone who worked for Planned Parenthood, nor would a vegetarian date a butcher.

But there were FAR bigger sluts in my secretarial jobs than when I was dancing. Man, those suit-clad office girls I worked with will hump anything that moves, with a few rare exceptions. The stories they told over lunch Monday morning about what they did that weekend would make The Editor of National Review blush.


Did you make a survey study to announce that? Most 'suit' office girls I work with in the customer services are not whores and not visual whores either (=strippers).
If you were a visual whore (=stripper) in your youth that doesn't make 90% of girls as whores. Nice try to make yourself a cleaner person by picturing most office girls as whores.

And please don't use the word 'dancing' for stripping.



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02 Feb 2008, 4:18 pm

fabshelly wrote:
LPP: "The earth is flat!"

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LPP: "You don't know what you're talking about! You don't know anything! The earth is flat!"

Veteran Astronaut: "Dude, I took pictures. Wanna see them?"

LPP: "You're in denial! The earth is flat!"


Yeah, the inability to debate's part of the reason.

Also, the complex he's got about women gets boring.

Even though I'm scrolling, I keep seeing the word "whore" flash up. Nice, eh?



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02 Feb 2008, 4:35 pm

^^ you are not reading my whole posts .



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02 Feb 2008, 4:43 pm

Now fabshelly: I have no doubt that stripping pays fairly well, HOWEVER there certainly ARE plenty of other jobs that pay as well( if not even better) than stripping. The impression that I got from one stripper who I used to chat with on Yahoo about 5-6 years ago is that she wasnt doing it just for the money, she was doing it because she honestly enjoyed it. Thats the impression I get from a lot of the younger strippers: the real reason they do it is because they get off on it. I mean, if you have the urge to flaunt your sexuality why not do it where you get paid for it? :wink: Bear in mind that Not every woman has the urge to show off her body, for some women getting the kind of sexual attention from total strangers makes them feel very uncomfortable. But what I dont get is WHY some of the women who posted to this thread continue to try in vain to deny the sexually provocative nature of exotic dancing.



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02 Feb 2008, 4:45 pm

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^^ you are not reading my whole posts .


Did you just realize this now?



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02 Feb 2008, 4:46 pm

^^ They do it for easy money and for mindless effort . In other jobs you need to use your brain in order to succeed.



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02 Feb 2008, 5:26 pm

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you've made up your mind, like Bill O'Reilly


I watch the show occasionally. I'd say he's among the more rational and straight-forward talking heads out there, and it helps to why the show's ratings are so high. Not that he doesn't have emotionally-based opinions, or that I always agree with him. Also, because I like the right-leaning show doesn't mean I'm against dating a stripper.

The spat between LePetitPrince and fabshelly has been amusing and entertaining thus far. I'd often say, "can't we all just get along," but here I'm going to specifically encourage you two to get it on. The "PetitPenis" was a nice touch. A witticism about the other's mother, or blackism like "ima whoop yo ass" could turn this epic. Sorry, I'm terrible :D



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02 Feb 2008, 6:06 pm

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Now fabshelly: I have no doubt that stripping pays fairly well, HOWEVER there certainly ARE plenty of other jobs that pay as well( if not even better) than stripping. The impression that I got from one stripper who I used to chat with on Yahoo about 5-6 years ago is that she wasnt doing it just for the money, she was doing it because she honestly enjoyed it. Thats the impression I get from a lot of the younger strippers: the real reason they do it is because they get off on it. I mean, if you have the urge to flaunt your sexuality why not do it where you get paid for it? :wink: Bear in mind that Not every woman has the urge to show off her body, for some women getting the kind of sexual attention from total strangers makes them feel very uncomfortable. But what I dont get is WHY some of the women who posted to this thread continue to try in vain to deny the sexually provocative nature of exotic dancing.


What little i know about stripping comes from my ex/friend, who used to do it many years before we met. Some of the things shes said (based on working most of the london clubs);

- a minority of women actually lose money - they dont earn enough to cover the fee you have to pay the club per night.
- having been raised in an abusive, repressive religious family, it was a way to help blow the religious s**t out of her psyche.



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02 Feb 2008, 8:46 pm

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- having been raised in an abusive, repressive religious family, it was a way to help blow the religious sh** out of her psyche.


I hope you're not implying that all religious families are abusive and repressive...



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02 Feb 2008, 9:03 pm

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- having been raised in an abusive, repressive religious family, it was a way to help blow the religious sh** out of her psyche.


I hope you're not implying that all religious families are abusive and repressive...


Well i wasnt, but now you mention it... :lol:

Indoctrinating children into a divisive and limiting belief system is hardly the opposite of abusive and repressive, iyswim.

But no, im certainly not implying that all religious families are abusive in the extreme sense that i had in mind describing this particular family. But if your an abusive parent and you happen to be religious, obviously that can influence the forms the abuse takes - particularly around expression of sexuality - so it is worth mentioning in this example.



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02 Feb 2008, 9:05 pm

thank heavens I made it to the end of this rant before they lock the thread...;)

After losing my first wife, I spent several years occasionally going to strip clubs (or 'Gentlemen's Clubs') as they call them down here. Standards vary by state and region. In NC/SC, it's you can drink anything, and all you want, but topless only. Have to at least have a thong on. Also, you touch a 'girl', and you're given flying lessons...without benefit of an airplane. Dating customers was a no-no, so don't bother. They spent as much time talking to customers (required, between dances, you bought them drinks, which they got a commish on), and hawking club merchandise (t-shirts, etc.) as anything else. It IS a job, and not always as glamorous as you'd think. A lot of women do do it for the money (my stepdaughter worked in a club for a while as a waitress. The money was good, but the hours sucked...;). A number do it to have enough money for drugs. A surprising number are lesbians (but where else would you go to meet beautiful women...;), which always cracked me up, for the sheer irony of it.

Now in Texas, (El Paso), the time I went there, it was all-nude (but it's an Army town..;), but you had to bring your own alchohol...;) But still, there were the bouncers, and still, it was a lot of money wasted..;)

I know it's not every woman's 1st choice to do, but I'm more curious than possibly judgmental about it. From what I hear, having boyfriends (or girlfriends) is really tough, because of all the suspicion and misconceptions...