Sex
BellaDonna wrote:
Women get forced to play games.
*People* get forced to play games, not just women.
BellaDonna wrote:
However, most men are sexually domineering and aggressive in ways that women are not.
That's all part of the game, too.
BellaDonna wrote:
it still feels as though men are the sexually dominant.
I believe most (but not all) women like it like that.
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Ancalagon wrote:
AutisticMalcontent wrote:
I'm sure you remember the story where a bunch of Jews were about to stone a women because she was an adulteress. Jesus told them "He who is without sin cast the first stone", and they left. Then He said to the woman "Stand up, your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more".
But the heart of the story takes place in between when he said "he who is without sin..." and "...go and sin no more".
After everyone left, he said, "Is there no one left to condemn you?"
She said, "No one."
Then he said, "Then neither do I condemn you."
My biggest problem with your position is the lack of compassion. You bothered to remind people that women are people too. But your disgust with prostitutes and their clients has blinded you to the fact that they are people too.
I think you misunderstand my message entirely. In my previous messages, I have said that prostitutes are sad women, from my perspective. As I said, some of them do it out of dire circumstances, like financial hardship, or because they were sexually/physically abused when they were younger and didn't grow up understanding personal self respect and decency. I feel sorry for prostitutes like that.
As for those who engage in prostitution willingly, I feel sorry for them in a sense as well, because they don't realize they are digging themselves a deeper hole with their actions unless they repent of them. Yes, God is compassionate, and He gives us all a chance at salvation through the blood of His Son, Jesus Christ, that whomsoever should believe in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. But do not forget that those who ignore what God says, He will not show them mercy.
I don't hate prostitutes, but I do consider what they do as sinful. However, I know that everything is in God's hands and what a man sews, he will also reap as well. Nothing in this life goes said or undone, and I know that includes me as well, and that's why I try to live as honorably to God. I'm just pointing out that prostitution is a sinful behavior and no one should want to indulge in it, man or woman alike, and those willingly do it will have to answer for it in the hereafter. However everything is up to God in the end.
AutisticMalcontent wrote:
I'm just pointing out that prostitution is a sinful behavior and no one should want to indulge in it, man or woman alike, and those willingly do it will have to answer for it in the hereafter. However everything is up to God in the end.
"Answering for it" and "burning in hell for it" are two different yet seemingly related entities... The way I see it, most people would end up in a purgatory of sorts (yes, I know, I'm a presbyterian, and current Presbyterian doctrine doesn't believe in the existence of Purgatory, but presbyterians generally will accept variations in personal belief so long as accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is still there...) where the goal is not eternal damnation, but rather rehabilitation of the soul to the point where connection with God is re-established. The parts of one's soul that turn one away from God is separated from that which is directed towards God, and those excess traits are like the weeds that are bundled up and thrown into the oven, and the good parts, or the wheat, as it were, is left intact. Each person has a ratio of "weeds" to "wheat", and so long as there is *something* worth saving in a person, that something will be saved...
BellaDonna wrote:
Women get forced to play games. Like the sex roles of what men want. It may seem subtle and not noticable to some and to others it's very noticable. I guess it depends on the guy. However, most men are sexually domineering and aggressive in ways that women are not.
I have experimented and tried to be as domineering in that respect; as to feel equal and as strong. Even more sexually aggressive than they but it does never seem to work. It always feels like they take over. Most women enjoy that, as I do and pleasantly get use to. It feels natural to me.
I can be pretty bossy and domineering in relationships. With my own sexual fetishes and have noticed that my boyfriends have really enjoyed me going off with my own style.
However, I find that I'm the one that mostly does as I'm told or as directed to. Naturally I'm submissive. I have rebelled against this with experimenting but have found that it has really not made any difference. When push comes to shoove - it is just the same' ol same 'ol. That doesn't bother me because sex could never bore me. I love it.
It doesn't seem to matter what postion your in. Wether your the person that chooses or your on top - it still feels as though men are the sexually dominant.
I have experimented and tried to be as domineering in that respect; as to feel equal and as strong. Even more sexually aggressive than they but it does never seem to work. It always feels like they take over. Most women enjoy that, as I do and pleasantly get use to. It feels natural to me.
I can be pretty bossy and domineering in relationships. With my own sexual fetishes and have noticed that my boyfriends have really enjoyed me going off with my own style.
However, I find that I'm the one that mostly does as I'm told or as directed to. Naturally I'm submissive. I have rebelled against this with experimenting but have found that it has really not made any difference. When push comes to shoove - it is just the same' ol same 'ol. That doesn't bother me because sex could never bore me. I love it.
It doesn't seem to matter what postion your in. Wether your the person that chooses or your on top - it still feels as though men are the sexually dominant.
Women get *forced* to play games? Actually, from what I and many NTs see is the women who effectively force men to play games-since men arent legally allowed to just force women to have sex whenever they feel like it.
Didn't you see the word subtle. I wasnt implying sexual predatory games such as rape. I simply meant that I have noticed men to be more domineering and aggressive during sex than women.
I take back the word subtle now cause I have never really noticed that - not unless they are just lazy.
The truth is when it comes to men being aroused and of having an erection they are as pushy as big fat pig trying to get their food or alike to a pig when it eats - Rude, unmannered and often will become aggression to make sure they piggle down what they want and as much. I guess what makes the difference is the snout - it makes pigs much cuter.
Last edited by BellaDonna on 16 Jan 2009, 9:53 am, edited 2 times in total.
Zyborg wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
You guys and ladies are overacting like immature teens, he didn't ask any lady here to have casual sex with her.
The guy was just asking for an advice , he didn't say " HI! Can I have sex with you please?". So grow up a little bit and stop stoning the OP.
OP, there's no natural or ethical law that forbids casual sex if both parties agree with it, if you want to have a casual with a girl make it sure to be a mutual agreement, the girl should be totally are for what you are aiming for.
But don't run away like chicken in case of accidental pregnancy tho.
The guy was just asking for an advice , he didn't say " HI! Can I have sex with you please?". So grow up a little bit and stop stoning the OP.
OP, there's no natural or ethical law that forbids casual sex if both parties agree with it, if you want to have a casual with a girl make it sure to be a mutual agreement, the girl should be totally are for what you are aiming for.
But don't run away like chicken in case of accidental pregnancy tho.
No, I would force her to make abortion. If that is not possible, I will simply pay her money but never visit the child.
Okay, first of all you cannot FORCE someone to have an abortion.
Legally you can choose to pay child support and offer no moral support but that's really crummy unless the mother prefers it that way and the child gets emotional support elsewhere (AKA choice mom).
But engaging in intercourse with the opposite sex always carries a risk of pregnancy unless at least one partner is truly infertile; birth control merely reduces the risk significantly.
So, that off my chest, if all you want is sex and truly feel no interest in raising any child that might possibly occur, you absolutely must make all of that clear as a bell up front. If you are interested in prostitution please visit where it is LEGAL and use protection.