Signs of the "not potential partner"-zone.

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LePetitPrince
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25 Oct 2009, 5:37 pm

Here are the signs I noticed of the "not potential partner"-zone or what most guys like to call it here the "friends" zone:

1- When she talks to you about her pms/period : Girls usually don't talk about such "private" things in front the guys they like.

2- When she talks about other guys' attractive qualities or when she makes obvious reactions toward some attractive qualities in other guys.

3- When you and her don't make a physically typical couple (some typical models: The guy is taller than the girl , guy's shoulders wider than the girl's, well-fit guy and well-fit girl, fat guy and fat girl, ...etc) : if you are shorter or thinner than the girl , or way fatter than the girl , or too uglier than the girl then you are less likely to be a potential partner and she's more likely to throw you into the "zone".

4- When she brings her female friends to your place or any other place you hang out with.

5- If you are younger or the same age of her : not a sign, but you are more likely to fall in the zone in that case.

6- If you are of another religion/faith/belief : it's true where I live at least.

7- If she's popular: they get fans all the time , so the zoning way is an effective filtering strategy.

8- You are poorer than her :obvious evolutionary reason.

9- When she talks/phones/chats to you only when she needs a favor: A small advice in that case, RUN!



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25 Oct 2009, 8:08 pm

I don't know about 6 and 8, depends on how much of an independant thinker she is, and I've broken both of those rules.



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25 Oct 2009, 8:46 pm

Wow, I never had a chance.



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25 Oct 2009, 9:24 pm

IDK, I got with someone 4 years older than me and she's definately fatter than me, then there was a different older person who was uglier than me, then a richer person who was still uglier than me. The popularity one is true though, it doesn't matter what you have going on, if you aren't popular she isn't gonna sleep with you.



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25 Oct 2009, 10:38 pm

You forgot one:

10) When she has tons of friends and a social life and you have 0



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26 Oct 2009, 4:31 am

"I like you but i just want to be friends" :roll: Kiss of death. Or "I'm not ready for a relationship right now, I have some issues to work out." Then a week later she introduces you to her new boyfriend. All of a sudden the issues she has goes away because she meets someone she likes. Have to love the honesty there.



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26 Oct 2009, 8:02 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
1- When she talks to you about her pms/period : Girls usually don't talk about such "private" things in front the guys they like.

2- When she talks about other guys' attractive qualities or when she makes obvious reactions toward some attractive qualities in other guys.

9- When she talks/phones/chats to you only when she needs a favor: A small advice in that case, RUN!

I agree with these. I wouldn't totally write off anyone who fits any of these, but I'd be much less confident. Another one for me is if she suggests ways to meet new women. It doesn't make sense for someone who is interested in me to do that because it would be running against her own interests.

On the other points, there may be some small correlations but they may not have a bearing at all with some individual woman who may be different from you in some ways but still like you. Ruling yourself out would just be destructive in that case.



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26 Oct 2009, 11:33 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
1- When she talks to you about her pms/period : Girls usually don't talk about such "private" things in front the guys they like.


I've never actually heard that one on one with a woman, usually if anything its when we're out as a group and a girl's trying to score Shaft points with the group by saying edgy things.

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2- When she talks about other guys' attractive qualities or when she makes obvious reactions toward some attractive qualities in other guys.


Yeah, that's either a friend or someone who's gaming you for a reaction.

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4- When she brings her female friends to your place or any other place you hang out with.


Depends which date. Unless its a mutually aranged double date (probably with the matchmaking couple) that's one thing, if its female friends on a first date - she shot herself in the foot, big time.

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5- If you are younger or the same age of her : not a sign, but you are more likely to fall in the zone in that case.


Cougars are out there though and I've seen friends in relationships that stretched up to three or four months. Long term though it is a bit unusual unless she's an aging Hollywood celebrity.


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7- If she's popular: they get fans all the time , so the zoning way is an effective filtering strategy.


Actually I've had enough popular girls make passes with me. More likely to happen after highschool though and particularly if they were popular for wholly other reasons than being Machievelli's Prince of the social order. Painful thing - some of these girls were the same who just thought I was adorable, were hoping for Toby McGwire or Zooey Deschanel's twin brother through and through, needless to say I think I have another bullet point to add for you:

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11. There is a difference between the type of guy/girl you look like you should be and the personality you actually possess - people who like your look won't accept your personality as valid, people who would love your personality scorn you on how you look, from which point by the time they realize your cool it's too late - the damage is done, they can't be attracted nor could they brace themselves to explain their choice off to their friends.


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9- When she talks/phones/chats to you only when she needs a favor: A small advice in that case, RUN!


That's a sign that she's striking out with you, as in you cut the relationship short. Doesn't even matter if she came at it from an angle of thinking she was superior to you and had no intent of treating you with a grain of dignity - its a little bit stunning when the other person takes a tall stance and overshadows you.



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26 Oct 2009, 11:48 am

jackdumpster wrote:
You forgot one:

10) When she has tons of friends and a social life and you have 0


I've found this to be a good fit for an aspie. They leave you alone a lot and you get credit for being so supportive of her going on a "girlie night" when her friends boyfriends/husbands are giving them hassel and complaining.

I imagine it's the same for aspie women. If their boyfriend wants to go out and watch a sport event with "the guys" or have a poker night etc...



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26 Oct 2009, 12:00 pm

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The popularity one is true though, it doesn't matter what you have going on, if you aren't popular she isn't gonna sleep with you.


As with my above post in my experience this just isn't true. I've never had any friends and I've had 4 sexual girlfriends in the last 12 years. They have been goog looking too, a lot of goodlooking women are unpopular with other girls for that exact reason.



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26 Oct 2009, 12:11 pm

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Signs of the "not potential partner"-zone.


i do not read signs and i do not play courting games.
people that i wind up knowing mostly follow me to my place uninvited.
they just ring the bell and there they are.

i am not interested in signs that point to "partners", but some people will not take "no" for an answer because they think i do not know them well enough to decide i do not want to know them.
they get dramatic and want to "show themselves" fully so i can see their "good side", but i do not really care whether their "side" is good or not.

people can be hard to shake off for those that do not need them, and hard to attract for those that do.

it is a strange mechanism that i am not bothered to ponder further as i am going to bed now.



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26 Oct 2009, 1:11 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
2- When she talks about other guys' attractive qualities or when she makes obvious reactions toward some attractive qualities in other guys.



I don't agree with this one. a girl can make a comment about another guy's attractive qualities simply to see if there are any signs of jealousy in you. or to see if you'll comment on it (i.e. if you agree with the comment = you're gay :p). I bet there are plenty of other possible scenarios where it doesn't mean you're being put in "the zone".

then again, it all depends on the comment. "omg he's so hot I wanna have his babies" *definitely* means you're in "the zone" ;)


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26 Oct 2009, 1:29 pm

EngishForAliens wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
The popularity one is true though, it doesn't matter what you have going on, if you aren't popular she isn't gonna sleep with you.


As with my above post in my experience this just isn't true. I've never had any friends and I've had 4 sexual girlfriends in the last 12 years. They have been goog looking too, a lot of goodlooking women are unpopular with other girls for that exact reason.


Must be a cultural thing. Any girl in a high social standing is gonna steer clear of any guy without the popularity, I was an attractive guy throughout adolescence, but my parents rarely bought me new clothes and I had poor social skills. I remember the table where all the popular kids sat and I didn't have a chance with a single one of them. Fast forward a few years and the same dynamic applies in the army, women with rank won't even think about a lower ranking guy, even if he's a looker, they'd fall out with their higher-ranking crowd.



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26 Oct 2009, 7:58 pm

EngishForAliens wrote:
jackdumpster wrote:
You forgot one:

10) When she has tons of friends and a social life and you have 0


I've found this to be a good fit for an aspie. They leave you alone a lot and you get credit for being so supportive of her going on a "girlie night" when her friends boyfriends/husbands are giving them hassel and complaining.

I imagine it's the same for aspie women. If their boyfriend wants to go out and watch a sport event with "the guys" or have a poker night etc...


I'm almost certain it's a 100% rejection candidate. "Why don't you have friends?" "Uh, I don't know, wanna go on a date?" "Eww, with you? Get away from me you creep!"



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26 Oct 2009, 9:25 pm

I remember the table where all the popular kids sat and I didn't have a chance with a single one of them. Fast forward a few years and the same dynamic applies in the army, women with rank won't even think about a lower ranking guy, even if he's a looker, they'd fall out with their higher-ranking crowd.

There are other tables.



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27 Oct 2009, 3:47 pm

Just vouching for LPP's rule here, women from a higher social status won't date beneath them.