So, who here is a PUA?

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BlackBull
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11 Jan 2008, 3:23 am

If you know what I'm talkin about, you a proud PUA?

If not, dont worry none.

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11 Jan 2008, 5:09 am

I couldn't be one even if I wanted to be.

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11 Jan 2008, 6:52 am

PUA=Pick Up Artist? Why don't say it if you are proud of it?

No I'm not, what Material Defender said.

It seems a bit lame anyway or at lest those that band together to do it. I'm not really into male bonding that much. My friend did it to try once and increase his confidence. They basically just made fun of him, he did manage to talk to some girls and get their facebook details, but then one of the guys said "I'm a friend of X do you want a shag?' and the girls were not impressed and blocked him.

He is now more general confidence course that cover everything form public speaking, body language, to asking people out. It is not these lame guys that think they are god's gift.

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11 Jan 2008, 1:07 pm

MaterialDefender wrote:

I couldn't be one even if I wanted to be.

It might seem like that, but dude, I tell you the honest truth, ANYONE can get women. The road is hard, but it's possible.

The mere fact that you say you cant means it IS impossible for you. If, however, you believe you can, then you can definitely become one. Perception is reality my friend.

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PUA=Pick Up Artist? Why don't say it if you are proud of it?

I am proud of being a Pick-up artist. I just wanted to see who was one, and those who know what being a PUA is all about
likely is one. Of course, It is impossible to convey emotion over text, so why would you assume I'm not proud? Could you tell I was in fear typing that? ...cause I wasn't.

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It seems a bit lame anyway or at lest those that band together to do it. I'm not really into male bonding that much. My friend did it to try once and increase his confidence. They basically just made fun of him, he did manage to talk to some girls and get their facebook details, but then one of the guys said "I'm a friend of X do you want a shag?' and the girls were not impressed and blocked him.

True that man. There's a lot of guys in the field that follow the typical stuff taught by guys like Mystery (The VH1 Star), Neil Strauss (Author of "The Game"), David DeAngelo (Double Your Dating programs), and others.

I'm willing to bet the guy who you're talking about not only opened his mouth to everyone about being a "pick-up artist", but wasn't being himself, and probably didn't get the reason WHY the pick-up techniques work, instead of just doing what the instructions said verbatim.

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He is now more general confidence course that cover everything form public speaking, body language, to asking people out. It is not these lame guys that think they are god's gift.

They dont think their god's gift. They're human, just like you and I. It seems, from what your typing, that you dislike these guys deeply, for some reason.

You're choice to dislike them dude, but hey, not all Pick-up artists are ass-clowns who put on some entertaining persona just to get girl's attention. The REAL guys who get women, suprisingly, are the ones who worked hard, cultivated attractive qualities through perserverance, dedication, and faith, and, the most important quality they had: They believed in themselves.

If you'd like, you can PM me with any questions regarding Pick up, whether it's trying to understand what it's all about, or why guys always mess up, etc...

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11 Jan 2008, 1:34 pm

I don't hate them I'm not really impressed this the guys that that were coaching my friend. What is the point of putting down your client? I don't think they have anything to offer him. Besides it all seemed pretty set up/too good to be true. The only 'practice' he had was on a girl on their payroll.

I'm not interested in paying anyone to teach me how to be a 'pickup artist'. I am interested in body language, communication. I'm not interested in one night stands.

One thing I do know because my female friend and other women have told me: Many women find it a huge turn off when there is a group of guys egging some guy on to 'pick up', wingmen, etc. Especially the women I'm interested in.

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11 Jan 2008, 1:53 pm

This is you?

http://pualifestyle.com/forum/showthread.php/honesty-107.html wrote:

This is you Figured I'd go on about Storytelling ethics:

Now, most of us have a solid sense of honor and integrity. We like to be honest and truthful in many instances, and dont feel comfy with the prospect of lying or bullshiting.

Yet, most of the time, those with that honorable mentality find it hard to associate with most women because they feel that exaggeration in stories is, in fact, dishonorable and ridiculous.

Yet a reality, is that women feed off any story with interesting facts, lie or not.

Saying that you've visited Aruba and partied your ass off there might be more gripping to a woman than saying you WISH you went to Aruba.

In this game fellas, the truth kills most of the time.

So, what do we do about this?

Simple:

-Lie-

When telling stories to women, it's not so much the facts they care about, but the emotion behind the stories.

Instead of telling how you threw a shotput 54 feet and won a state championship, tell them how you FELT. Tell them that you were nervous of the whole thing, and everyone was rooting for you, and that the pressure was conflicting with your focus, and that when you threw 54, you were ecstatic, and everyone in the arena was celebrating and feeling joyful.

See.Wasn't that interesting!

Now, there are SAFE topics to lie about, and NON-SAFE topics.

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SAFE topics
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-Sports you did
-Parties you went to
-Friends you've hung out with
-Vacations you've been on

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NON-SAFE topics
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-Any topic you are not at least 90% sure on
-Anything negative
-Anything not affordable within your current income
-Past girlfriends
-Fart jokes

Get my drift.

Basically, take what you know, and exaggerate it in a believeable manner.Also add extra emotion for charge.

That's Storytelling ethics in 7 minutes. (I love keeping track of time)
Now go storytelling! AND LIE! xD

Like the guy said go make yourself interesting...

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11 Jan 2008, 2:12 pm

0_equals_true wrote:

Ohhh...NOW I get where you're coming from! I thought you were talking about the people in general.

Jesus dude, who'd he get his lessons from? They seem like douchebags who dont have a heart. Damn, that is NOT what it's about man.lol.

They put down their own client. That basically screams "Joke" to me. Those guys were ass-clowns who didn't know the basis of helping others. I can understand why you dislike the pick-up trainers.

Not all of us are like that. I've helped some guys with their game and pick up skills, and in no way would I put them down. It's counterproductive, and represents your mission as a whole. If one guy is a douchebag to a client, the whole company's a bunch of douchebags.

I'ma PM you 0_Equals_True. Await response.

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11 Jan 2008, 4:19 pm

I am proud that I am NOT a pick-up artist.

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11 Jan 2008, 4:23 pm

0_equals_true wrote:

This is you?

http://pualifestyle.com/forum/showthread.php/honesty-107.html wrote:

Like the guy said go make yourself interesting...

That's one aspect of communication I don't do, and frankly find a bit revolting.

I've seen it in real life though, my friend is a quality story teller. I've heard him tell stories where I know some of the details too, but if he doesn't know everything he just makes some parts up. It's all a part of telling a story I guess, but I really hate it.

Actually when I tell a story I do the opposite, when I forget details... I down play an accomplishment or the facts. I don't want to gloat about something I'm not sure of. I'm better off at describing the story very succinctly and just remembering whatever goofy details I can convey. I usually avoid telling stories, they are big problem areas in my communication.

I'm not a 'pua' or anything close, I don't think the goals of such guys are anywhere near my goals in finding women. I find some of it interesting from a sociological stand point. And just forcing yourself to go out and talk with women is great advice. Like anything you get better at communicating by doing it, I would like to think that communicating would just come naturally when the right girl comes around... but that isn't the case.

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11 Jan 2008, 5:13 pm

BlackBull, how could you possibly be a PUA if you think that kissing means you are boyfriend & girlfriend.

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11 Jan 2008, 5:15 pm

No, never have been and (probably) never will. I find approaching a woman and asking her out about as difficult as working out SQRT (PI) in roman numerals.

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11 Jan 2008, 8:44 pm

LVBen wrote:

BlackBull, how could you possibly be a PUA if you think that kissing means you are boyfriend & girlfriend.

It's the general standard. When that first kiss is made, it means that the foundation is there. Whether or not you want to legitimize it is you and the potential GF's call, but the kiss is the markstone.

I didn't intend this to be a beatdown of PUAs. I just wanted to know who was a part of the community. I'm sorry if this offended some of you, as I had no intention of causing any harm, but let's leave it as that.

As for that post, exaggeration and lying are 2 different things. The point is to put some charged emotion into your stories, which is usually in the form of exaggeration.

And on that note, If you knew the mission of the site I came from, you would realize there is more to being a PUA than just getting the girl. It's about fostering and creating a lifestyle women find attractive.

I just wanted to find out who was a PUA, not have people bash them. Let's not fight over this guys.

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13 Jan 2008, 1:51 am

nope. I just looked for someone that would love me, and I found her.

It depends on what you're looking for. There comes a time to settle down, and then being a PUA turns into being a POS...

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13 Jan 2008, 1:13 pm

LVBen wrote:

BlackBull, how could you possibly be a PUA if you think that kissing means you are boyfriend & girlfriend.

Lol good one...

I think the problem with a lot of the "PUA" stuff is that guys who are socially awkward and have no experience think they can use this and it will work for them. It is a coincidence that pretty much all this PUA stuff is sold and advertised on the internet, the domain of nerds? If you are on WP and don't have a date, you likely need to work on basic social skills and life skills, it will probably serve you better than reading up on the "seduction community."

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13 Jan 2008, 1:39 pm

Nope. Not a PUA, but I don't hate on other PUA's. Just never really took the initiative...

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13 Jan 2008, 2:53 pm

The PUA stuff on the internet is mostly junk. About five years ago, I thought that stuff would help me. So I ended up spending nearly $300 over the course of a few years on the numerous books and CDs I purchased. And guess what? Only 10% or so of the information in them was truly useful. I still have them sitting around my apartment, taking up space. Those books and CDs meant to really help you; well, maybe a little bit. The advertising is meant to strike a nerve, so you'd get riles up or excited, and buy the product. But when it arrives, you discover that it's nothing more than a common sense stuff and hard-to-apply theories.

In 2005, I decided that I was never meant to be a PUA, and did what I previously thought was unthinkable: hire an escort. After one visit wit hher, my confidence improved dramatically, although it's nowhere near the level of a PUA. In other words, a 1-hour visit helped me as much as two years of reading a bunch of junk, and it costs the same amount. Just my 2 cents.

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