Guides to how the Opposite Sex Speaks/Thinks

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31 Jul 2010, 11:45 pm

What do you guys think about these:

"For guys: a guide to girl talk": http://yahoo.match.com/magazine/article.aspx?articleid=12001

"What he really means": http://yahoo.match.com/y/article.aspx?articleid=11997&TrackingID=526103&BannerID=686128

Why do men and women have to decipher "codes" just to talk to each other? :roll: Has straight-on honesty always been out of fashion when it comes to male-female relations?

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31 Jul 2010, 11:53 pm

Good topic.

I was honest with my ex right from the get-go...she seemed to like it...then when she saw it's how I always am, and that she didn't like some of the things I had to say, she lost interest.



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31 Jul 2010, 11:57 pm

I'll never figure that out. :wall:
I guess I'll have to narrow my search to an ASD or ASD-like girl.


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01 Aug 2010, 12:15 am

I know some of these. Like when something is bothering my girlfriend and I ask "whats wrong" and she says "nothing" then I say "well something must be wrong because you don't seem like your usual self" and she says "nothings wrong." This is when I want to say "How am I supposed to help if I don't know what's wrong?" but I don't want to seem like I'm pestering her too much.



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01 Aug 2010, 12:46 am

conundrum wrote:
What do you guys think about these:

"For guys: a guide to girl talk": http://yahoo.match.com/magazine/article.aspx?articleid=12001

"What he really means": http://yahoo.match.com/y/article.aspx?articleid=11997&TrackingID=526103&BannerID=686128

Why do men and women have to decipher "codes" just to talk to each other? :roll: Has straight-on honesty always been out of fashion when it comes to male-female relations?

Any thoughts?


Well.. I feel tainted, that was the first time I had actually read something from one of those magazines (well the writer was from them.. so in my books same thing) I had a flatmate that read them all the time and would read parts out loud.

I have had very few female friends because they generally do not make sense to me. That can be really difficult at times, because I am female.
I have always had male friends, and if any of them started to talk that way to me.. I would be really confused and think something was wrong..

There is also a chance every guy I have been with has been of the spectrum, I know two were for sure. And I may very well be as well.

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What he says: “I really like your shoes.”
What he means: “I really like you.”
Why he says it: Granted, he could genuinely like your shoes. But if he says this during the early stages of dating, it also likely means he’s physically attracted to you — but doesn’t want to come right out and say it and seem like a dog. Ty Marciniak claims that this is one of the first things he says when he’s into a girl. “It boosts her confidence, but it also shows her I’m fashionable and sweet,” he says. “She’ll notice that I didn’t come right out and compliment her legs or something.” Which is, of course, what he really was complimenting in the first place. Get it?


I have always worn guy shoes, so a guy saying theyu like my shoes, would mean they like my shoes..
But, if I actually had female shoes on and a guy said that, I would not think it was to boost my confidence or that he 'really liked me'.
My choice in shoes are not meant to do anything but keep my feet covered in places I can not go barefoot.

My reaction would be damn, he is gay. Then I would suggest he meet my flatmate. He is cute and the two might hit it off.

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What she says: “This feels good, but we really shouldn’t.”
What she means: “I want you, bad, but don’t want to get burned.”
Why she says it: The night is winding down, and it’s time to decide whether she should hold ‘em, fold ‘em, or soldier on into the morning light with you. So if your date isn’t telling you a flat-out “No,” “I don’t want to,” or “I don’t like you that way,” chances are she really does like you — and want you — that way. She’d just rather wait a few weeks or months until she knows you’re not a love-’em-and-leave-’em type. “It’s possible she’s been in the position before of becoming intimate with a man and wanting to hear from him and then not hearing from him — and she doesn’t want to make that mistake again,” says Wolf. So if you’re a guy who really does want the relationship to go further (be honest now), it’s worth telling her so to see if she’ll change her mind.


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That is so not what I am meaning when I say that. And it is not why I say it at all.

Do people actually believe this garbage? Honestly, I am reading this stuff and wondering how anyone gets laid if they follow it.
I will keep speaking to people how I always have if this is what they are suggesting. I may come off course and rude to most, but at least it is the truth.
not some weird roundabout..
That would be way to confusing, but it also makes complete sense why I hardly ever understand what people are saying. They are talking in some weird code that I can't learn.



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01 Aug 2010, 2:28 am

jdcnosse wrote:
I know some of these. Like when something is bothering my girlfriend and I ask "whats wrong" and she says "nothing" then I say "well something must be wrong because you don't seem like your usual self" and she says "nothings wrong." This is when I want to say "How am I supposed to help if I don't know what's wrong?" but I don't want to seem like I'm pestering her too much.


Oh god I don't comprehend that tendency of women at all.

'nothings wrong' but obviously something is -very- wrong and ARGH

But I do know where it goes from there. If it's pushed it turns into a big accusational thing that she's been bottling up for ages. I don't know why they think it is a good idea to do that.



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01 Aug 2010, 6:05 am

I saw the "What he really means" article, and while I wasn't surprised, I was annoyed.

I would would be quite annoyed if a man said to me "You're too good for me," as a means of breaking up. First of all, I will be the judge of who I am and am not too good for. Second of all, he should really just say "I don't think we are right for each other." Preferably he should say this sooner than later.



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01 Aug 2010, 6:45 am

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I would would be quite annoyed if a man said to me "You're too good for me," as a means of breaking up. First of all, I will be the judge of who I am and am not too good for. Second of all, he should really just say "I don't think we are right for each other." Preferably he should say this sooner than later.


Agreed. I'd immediately suspect it was a bare-faced lie if a girl told me that.

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What he says: “Maybe we should take some time off from each other — you know, take a break.”
What he means: “Maybe I’m better off keeping my options open.”


Oh come on. What that means is, "We're breaking up" and if not, then it won't take much to doom the relationship.



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01 Aug 2010, 7:19 am

Do people really think like this? 8O
I've always thought those magazine lists of what men/women want are rubbish meant to fill up space.
I figure if people are actually taking that kind of advice, it probably causes more confusion than it solves.



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01 Aug 2010, 11:29 am

Thanks for the responses, guys.

I read stuff like this and :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I told my bf flat out that I don't like games like this. If something's wrong, I tell him. If something's wrong, he tells me (well, eventually--at the beginning, he didn't want to upset/burden me with stuff; it took a while for him to understand that if I'm enough of an adult to be in a relationship, I'm enough of an adult to hear whatever it is he has to say). However, he never used "code" or "camouflage"--the most he ever did was say "I can't say it--yet." A few hours later he would. Now, he can just come right out and say whatever it is.

To me, "codetalk" in relationships = immaturity.

IMO, these kinds of "rules" (or whatever you want to call them) only serve to widen the "gulf" between men and women. The so-called "battle of the sexes" continues....Blarg! Why can't we all just act like grownups and leave the "boys vs girls" stuff on the playground, where it belongs?!?


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01 Aug 2010, 11:51 am

conundrum wrote:
Thanks for the responses, guys.

I read stuff like this and :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I told my bf flat out that I don't like games like this. If something's wrong, I tell him. If something's wrong, he tells me (well, eventually--at the beginning, he didn't want to upset/burden me with stuff; it took a while for him to understand that if I'm enough of an adult to be in a relationship, I'm enough of an adult to hear whatever it is he has to say). However, he never used "code" or "camouflage"--the most he ever did was say "I can't say it--yet." A few hours later he would. Now, he can just come right out and say whatever it is.

To me, "codetalk" in relationships = immaturity.

IMO, these kinds of "rules" (or whatever you want to call them) only serve to widen the "gulf" between men and women. The so-called "battle of the sexes" continues....Blarg! Why can't we all just act like grownups and leave the "boys vs girls" stuff on the playground, where it belongs?!?


I agree with this, if you can't say it then maybe you're not mature enough. The only time my girlfriend doesn't actually tell me things are if it's related to one of her OCD issues and she doesn't want to tell me because she thinks it's stupid, even though I tell her that I won't think it's stupid and I'll listen to her, but she doesn't have to tell me if she doesn't want to because I'm not gonna force her to do anything she doesn't want to do.