The Roissy Maxims
Roissy is a PUA blogger who is well-known for his crass (and effective advice)
Roissy Maxim #3: Whenever an attractive girl tells you she hates as*holes, or describes her experience in the past dating as*holes and claims to avoid them now, or recites a laundry list of asshøle-y things guys do that she disapproves of, you can bet your weight in gold bricks that she needs you to be an asshøle to her.
Roissy Maxim #4: Trust no one missing a sense of humor.
Roissy Maxim #6: Never make it easy for a girl.
Roissy Maxim #7: Your girl will thank you for your steadfast devotion to your belief in yourself
Roissy Maxim #7: The sweeter and more innocent a girl seems, the greater the likelihood she has been in a gangbang.
Corollary: Always assume she is a bïtch. It helps kick the legs out from under the pedestal you will be tempted to put her on, and it is more often than not true.
Roissy Maxim #7: The greater the age difference between the older man and the younger woman, the tighter his game will need to be, barring compensatory attributes.
Roissy Maxim #8: Marriage is a social mechanism designed to exchange sex for indentured servitude.
Roissy Maxim #10: It’s attraction uber alles.
Roissy Maxim #11: The greater the sexual market value disparity between the husband and his depreciating wife, and the more kids they have, the more life the husband has sucked out of him.
Roissy Maxim #12: If you are comfortable with your game being splashed across a JumboTron for thousands of people to read, then you are doing it right.
Roissy Maxim #13: Calling a girl out on her lie accomplishes nothing.
Roissy Maxim #13: When the love is gone, women can be as cold as if they had never known you.
Roissy Maxim #13: When in doubt, game.
Roissy Maxim #15: Female cultural equality = male dating inequality. Female cultural inequality = male dating equality. You cannot have both. So sayeth human nature.
Roissy Maxim #17: Be narcissistic. There is no greater divergence than that between a woman’s stated disapproval of male narcissism and the rapidity with which she jumps into bed with a male narcissist.
Roissy Maxim #18: The two fundamental propositions upon which all game theory rests are male choosiness and female abundance. All alpha males have these two mindsets in common.
Corollary to the above: Male choosiness and female abundance do not necessarily have to be true for the strategy of behaving as if they are true to be effective at seducing women.
Roissy Maxim #19: The alpha male thinks and acts more like a woman than a man in matters of seduction. He understands his adversary’s psychology, and uses it to shatter her defenses.
Roissy Maxim #20: The gina tingle is the principal moral code to which women subscribe. All other moral considerations pale in comparison.
Roissy Maxim #21: Never talk about getting into a relationship even if the girl says that’s what she’s looking for.
Roissy Maxim #25: Withholding sex is the tactic of a woman who has already lost. It is mutually assured destruction.
Roissy Maxim #26: If a woman says the word “sex” in conversation with you or about you, no matter the context, it means she’s thinking about having sex with you.
Roissy Maxim #27: Women are more pliable in the company of competing women
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Roissy Maxim #27: You have to make marriage an attractive alternative for MEN — not women — if you want the institution to thrive.
Roissy Maxim #30: When in doubt, ask yourself “WWJD?” What Would a Jerk Do? Then do that.
Roissy Maxim #33: NO girl wants to be thought she isn’t a special little snowflake.
Roissy Maxim #39: Never tell a girl how much you make, even if you’re loaded. In case of marriage, keep separate accounts.
Roissy Maxim #39: If you want a wife stay clear of investing much in girls who constantly remind you they like to have “fun fun fun” and “get bored easily”.
Roissy Maxim #41: The more experience you have with women, the more you’ll know which women have experience with men.
Corollary to #41: It is the inexperienced beta male who is most often in the dark about a woman’s sexual history and liable to be victimized by the cheating slut.
Roissy Maxim #44: Women will not hold it against you for trying to get into their panties on the first night. In fact, they will respect you more for your boldness and willingness to follow your manly desires.
Roissy Maxim #49: If you plan on cheating and get caught, act like a total jerk who did nothing wrong. Your girlfriend will then wonder if it’s something she did.
Roissy Maxim #51: Commanding women to do your bidding will give you a bigger beta margin of error.
Roissy Maxim #52: Girls need to test men for their grace under pressure.
Roissy Maxim #55: If she’s hot, why would she bother with online dating?
Roissy Maxim #59: High IQ is no inoculation against beta delusion. If anything, high IQ obstructs clear thinking about women’s nature.
Roissy Maxim #59: The longer you are away from seducing new women, the harder it will be to seduce one when you want.
Roissy Maxim #66: As men are becoming ever bigger cowards and betas in their dealings with women, they are losing the leverage to shape and push women’s child-like and selfishly amoral political opinions in logical, just and long-term oriented directions.
Roissy Maxim #68: The definition of Inner Game: Hit on every woman who stimulates your crotch. Make life uncomfortable for them, not yourself.
Roissy Maxim # 71: When a girl signals that she doesn’t enjoy sex, do not spend one second more with her. Your libido is too important to gamble on such a girl.
Roissy Maxim #71: In their sexual primes women’s attraction for as*holes is at its strongest. You can catch a lot of hungry flies with honey, but s**t attracts the most well-fed flies.
Roissy Maxim #75: If you get sexually rejected, don’t admit it to yourself, and especially don’t admit it to the girl.
Roissy Maxim #77: Women will screech louder the closer your words get to damaging or exposing vulnerabilities in their sexual market value.
Roissy Maxim #81: Whenever you hear or read the words “gender”, “gendered”, “gendered norm”, “subtle gender bias”, or “increasingly egalitarian, yet there remains…” know that you are dealing with a leftwing equalist, blank-slate believing fruitcake who cannot deal with the fact that men and women are biologically different from birth.
Roissy Maxim #83: Awareness of a woman’s games is a precision-guided weapon in a man’s arsenal of seduction. Slyly revealing your knowledge of a woman’s obstructive game tactics is like catnip to her
Roissy Maxim #84: Respect the momentum.
Roissy Maxim #93: The rare older woman-younger man pairing is like a lab experiment gone wrong. It violates the natural order of things, and leaves its practitioners emotionally twisted and in a constant mental race to hyperrationalize their subpar mate choice.
Roissy Maxim #98: Marriage is no escape from the sexual market and the possibility that you may be outbid by a competitor with higher value. Corollary: Singleness is no guarantee of full sexual market participation.
Roissy Maxim #101: For most women, five minutes of alpha is worth five years of beta.
Roissy Maxim #328: Underneath the veneer of civilized discourse we act in ways that are brazenly self-interested in the short term.
Roissy Addendum #328a: Seeking short term status is a matter of self-interest.
Roissy Maxim #666: All kneel before the god of biomechanics, by sword or by surrender.
Roissy Maxim #666: When a woman has incentive to lie, she will choose lying over honesty EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Corollary to Maxim #666: Treat woman like Soviet Russia — Trust but verify.
Roissy Maxim #856: Swear by the HipandCooter oath: First, use no logic.
Roissy Maxim #2008: Socialists gain when single women who refuse to settle vote. They lose when single women forget to vote on their way to the mall.
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Roissy Maxim #3: Whenever an attractive girl tells you she hates as*holes, or describes her experience in the past dating as*holes and claims to avoid them now, or recites a laundry list of asshøle-y things guys do that she disapproves of, you can bet your weight in gold bricks that she needs you to be an asshøle to her.
Roissy Maxim #4: Trust no one missing a sense of humor.
Roissy Maxim #6: Never make it easy for a girl.
Roissy Maxim #7: Your girl will thank you for your steadfast devotion to your belief in yourself
Roissy Maxim #7: The sweeter and more innocent a girl seems, the greater the likelihood she has been in a gangbang.
Corollary: Always assume she is a bïtch. It helps kick the legs out from under the pedestal you will be tempted to put her on, and it is more often than not true.
Roissy Maxim #7: The greater the age difference between the older man and the younger woman, the tighter his game will need to be, barring compensatory attributes.
Roissy Maxim #8: Marriage is a social mechanism designed to exchange sex for indentured servitude.
Roissy Maxim #10: It’s attraction uber alles.
Roissy Maxim #11: The greater the sexual market value disparity between the husband and his depreciating wife, and the more kids they have, the more life the husband has sucked out of him.
Roissy Maxim #12: If you are comfortable with your game being splashed across a JumboTron for thousands of people to read, then you are doing it right.
Roissy Maxim #13: Calling a girl out on her lie accomplishes nothing.
Roissy Maxim #13: When the love is gone, women can be as cold as if they had never known you.
Roissy Maxim #13: When in doubt, game.
Roissy Maxim #15: Female cultural equality = male dating inequality. Female cultural inequality = male dating equality. You cannot have both. So sayeth human nature.
Roissy Maxim #17: Be narcissistic. There is no greater divergence than that between a woman’s stated disapproval of male narcissism and the rapidity with which she jumps into bed with a male narcissist.
Roissy Maxim #18: The two fundamental propositions upon which all game theory rests are male choosiness and female abundance. All alpha males have these two mindsets in common.
Corollary to the above: Male choosiness and female abundance do not necessarily have to be true for the strategy of behaving as if they are true to be effective at seducing women.
Roissy Maxim #19: The alpha male thinks and acts more like a woman than a man in matters of seduction. He understands his adversary’s psychology, and uses it to shatter her defenses.
Roissy Maxim #20: The gina tingle is the principal moral code to which women subscribe. All other moral considerations pale in comparison.
Roissy Maxim #21: Never talk about getting into a relationship even if the girl says that’s what she’s looking for.
Roissy Maxim #25: Withholding sex is the tactic of a woman who has already lost. It is mutually assured destruction.
Roissy Maxim #26: If a woman says the word “sex” in conversation with you or about you, no matter the context, it means she’s thinking about having sex with you.
Roissy Maxim #27: Women are more pliable in the company of competing women
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Roissy Maxim #27: You have to make marriage an attractive alternative for MEN — not women — if you want the institution to thrive.
Roissy Maxim #30: When in doubt, ask yourself “WWJD?” What Would a Jerk Do? Then do that.
Roissy Maxim #33: NO girl wants to be thought she isn’t a special little snowflake.
Roissy Maxim #39: Never tell a girl how much you make, even if you’re loaded. In case of marriage, keep separate accounts.
Roissy Maxim #39: If you want a wife stay clear of investing much in girls who constantly remind you they like to have “fun fun fun” and “get bored easily”.
Roissy Maxim #41: The more experience you have with women, the more you’ll know which women have experience with men.
Corollary to #41: It is the inexperienced beta male who is most often in the dark about a woman’s sexual history and liable to be victimized by the cheating slut.
Roissy Maxim #44: Women will not hold it against you for trying to get into their panties on the first night. In fact, they will respect you more for your boldness and willingness to follow your manly desires.
Roissy Maxim #49: If you plan on cheating and get caught, act like a total jerk who did nothing wrong. Your girlfriend will then wonder if it’s something she did.
Roissy Maxim #51: Commanding women to do your bidding will give you a bigger beta margin of error.
Roissy Maxim #52: Girls need to test men for their grace under pressure.
Roissy Maxim #55: If she’s hot, why would she bother with online dating?
Roissy Maxim #59: High IQ is no inoculation against beta delusion. If anything, high IQ obstructs clear thinking about women’s nature.
Roissy Maxim #59: The longer you are away from seducing new women, the harder it will be to seduce one when you want.
Roissy Maxim #66: As men are becoming ever bigger cowards and betas in their dealings with women, they are losing the leverage to shape and push women’s child-like and selfishly amoral political opinions in logical, just and long-term oriented directions.
Roissy Maxim #68: The definition of Inner Game: Hit on every woman who stimulates your crotch. Make life uncomfortable for them, not yourself.
Roissy Maxim # 71: When a girl signals that she doesn’t enjoy sex, do not spend one second more with her. Your libido is too important to gamble on such a girl.
Roissy Maxim #71: In their sexual primes women’s attraction for as*holes is at its strongest. You can catch a lot of hungry flies with honey, but sh** attracts the most well-fed flies.
Roissy Maxim #75: If you get sexually rejected, don’t admit it to yourself, and especially don’t admit it to the girl.
Roissy Maxim #77: Women will screech louder the closer your words get to damaging or exposing vulnerabilities in their sexual market value.
Roissy Maxim #81: Whenever you hear or read the words “gender”, “gendered”, “gendered norm”, “subtle gender bias”, or “increasingly egalitarian, yet there remains…” know that you are dealing with a leftwing equalist, blank-slate believing fruitcake who cannot deal with the fact that men and women are biologically different from birth.
Roissy Maxim #83: Awareness of a woman’s games is a precision-guided weapon in a man’s arsenal of seduction. Slyly revealing your knowledge of a woman’s obstructive game tactics is like catnip to her
Roissy Maxim #84: Respect the momentum.
Roissy Maxim #93: The rare older woman-younger man pairing is like a lab experiment gone wrong. It violates the natural order of things, and leaves its practitioners emotionally twisted and in a constant mental race to hyperrationalize their subpar mate choice.
Roissy Maxim #98: Marriage is no escape from the sexual market and the possibility that you may be outbid by a competitor with higher value. Corollary: Singleness is no guarantee of full sexual market participation.
Roissy Maxim #101: For most women, five minutes of alpha is worth five years of beta.
Roissy Maxim #328: Underneath the veneer of civilized discourse we act in ways that are brazenly self-interested in the short term.
Roissy Addendum #328a: Seeking short term status is a matter of self-interest.
Roissy Maxim #666: All kneel before the god of biomechanics, by sword or by surrender.
Roissy Maxim #666: When a woman has incentive to lie, she will choose lying over honesty EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Corollary to Maxim #666: Treat woman like Soviet Russia — Trust but verify.
Roissy Maxim #856: Swear by the HipandCooter oath: First, use no logic.
Roissy Maxim #2008: Socialists gain when single women who refuse to settle vote. They lose when single women forget to vote on their way to the mall.
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why would anyone listen to advice from someone who has to pay people to sleep with them, surely a better person to make 'offers of advice' threads would be someone who pulled easily and did not have to pay!
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So all women I know want to have sex with me? O_o
ridiculous lol
thats why I view PUAs as a bunch of manipulative asses. Why I never bother "heeding" their "advice". Not that I care for having a relationship anyways, happily asexual here.
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I agree with this one actually.
In five minutes or less around an alpha/silverback I know I cannot ever get into a relationship with them and that they bother me to the point it is not worth it.
With the others, it took a couple years before I felt that the relationship was not working and they were bothering me.
So all women I know want to have sex with me? O_o
ridiculous lol
I wonder if that counts words have sex in them?
That could be really uncomfortable if they were talking about a friend that had sextuplets.
Either way, guess its a good thing I no longer have classes and such
How can anyone keep track of these errmmm rules/codes in the first place?
There was one posted awhile back, that if a guy said he likes the woman's shoes, it actually means he likes the woman.
When did that code come into that meaning?
Because the guys I have known that say they like a women's shoes, have all been cross-dressers.
If it gets any more confusing I will either stay in my nunnery (bloody hell not likely considering will I will be in a month)
or I am just going to have to cop a feel, if they are ready = they are interested, if not, well oopps sorry my mistake.
Lotus,
Roissy's advice often works in western culture. I've seen it in action and it works quite beautifully (or hideously depending on your point of view.
The reason I pay directly is simply because the AS symptoms hinder the skills that men need to develop romantic relationships with women such as being able to read body language, maintain attractive body language, know exactly what to say, etc. There are plenty of other guys on WP in the same situation. I chose to do something about my own desires as opposed to crying about what I don't have. (Paging Dr. Toad...)
Also from my observations, having a gf or getting married is an arrangement in which I'd keep paying more to get less and less. I've seen this all too often.
Frankly I'd rather pay direct for a hot 20 year old than settle and pay indirectly out the
Nose for an aging 38 year old terrified of being alone or some single mom looking for a sucker to pay the bills she ran up. Aspies/spergies fit that bill quite well unfortunately.
I will not apologize for making the most of the hand I was dealt. Your rudimentary shaming language ("You shouldn't have to pay for it!") is a lame attempt to deflect the issue at hand. Which is Given that aspie males have trouble with the skills needed to start and maintain a romantic relationship how should they adjust?
some of the things on that list almost made me s**t my pants laughing
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Roissy's advice often works in western culture. I've seen it in action and it works quite beautifully (or hideously depending on your point of view.
The reason I pay directly is simply because the AS symptoms hinder the skills that men need to develop romantic relationships with women such as being able to read body language, maintain attractive body language, know exactly what to say, etc. There are plenty of other guys on WP in the same situation. I chose to do something about my own desires as opposed to crying about what I don't have. (Paging Dr. Toad...)
Also from my observations, having a gf or getting married is an arrangement in which I'd keep paying more to get less and less. I've seen this all too often.
Frankly I'd rather pay direct for a hot 20 year old than settle and pay indirectly out the
Nose for an aging 38 year old terrified of being alone or some single mom looking for a sucker to pay the bills she ran up. Aspies/spergies fit that bill quite well unfortunately.
I will not apologize for making the most of the hand I was dealt. Your rudimentary shaming language ("You shouldn't have to pay for it!") is a lame attempt to deflect the issue at hand. Which is Given that aspie males have trouble with the skills needed to start and maintain a romantic relationship how should they adjust?
yeah, youve said all that before lots of times, I still think its a lame thought process though.
Ive met plenty of men who do not pay for sex emotionally or financially, and who were nice to women and got lots of sex.
Personally I could not enjoy sex if I had to pay someone to do it, I much prefer people wanting to have sex with me not wanting my money.
All your stuff goes on the premice that women do not like sex and will not sleep with people for enjoyments sake, which is rubbish. Women love sex and will sleep with men for free.
Comparing yourself to windging virgins does not support your case, they need advice from people who are successful not from someone equally unsucessful who only had sex cos he paid for it. The majority of those mens problems is that they dont leave the house and have low esteem- doing confidence building and self esteem work would be much more helpful to them.
I dont think any aspie could pull off the 'be a jerk' art of pulling as most of the time people are put off them for misperceiving they are jerks, what they need to do is highlight their strengths to women such as loyalty, security and love- lots of women like that and would enjoy a relationship with them. But they need to leave the house!
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I've had my own issues with #39. Guys, never, EVER hang out with a girl like that. If you're the alpha-dog type (or even if you're not), those are the love 'em and leave 'em girls. Have your one night of fun. Get up bright and early the next day before she wakes up, and never look back. And do NOT think about what could have been. All you had in one night is all there ever was.
I say that because I've been there and tried to make something happen with that girl. I kept up with her for a little while. She married this guy whose family was loaded, but HE wasn't. These people are the types that don't believe in supporting their young adult children but force them to make it on their own. When they got out of college and got married, SHE had a job but HE didn't. And no matter what, the job market just wasn't opening doors to him. So (gasp) their marriage fell apart.
She was totally into the guy, I think, but it was that whole "for richer or for poorer" thing that just wasn't happening. And she probably thought that marriage was SUPPOSED to work and she was confused why it didn't. So she went through her horny slut phase in the aftermath and ended up getting pregnant with some random guy! She remarried some college professor/regional author (meaning sub-par historical non-fiction due to the "publish or perish" mandate) and is now living the easy life again, having once again spawned.
#25 is so true. Anyone who wonders why has trouble understanding feedback loops. From a practical perspective, my wife and I agreed never to use sex as reward/punishment. That's one of the few non-negotiable elements of our relationship. The only condition for sex is that we both want it and that we both enjoy it. If "it" ain't happening, stop immediately, try again next week. Withholding sex solves NOTHING. It's the nuclear option in a relationship. A SMART woman won't use sex as a weapon. And somehow women are wired in such a way that the opposite has no effect on them. I really have no idea what the equivalent would be. CONCLUSIVELY PROVING a woman to be wrong about something? I dunno... The response to that could be, even if she's undeniably wrong, that the conclusion comes about as the result of a MAN'S logic, which in no way is capable of making sense of a woman's mind. Such things are best left alone. The man in the relationship should break up with the girl if sex is in the picture and she threatens to withhold it. In the context of marriage, this doesn't really work. The best advice I can give is be careful who you marry. In some jurisdictions, withholding sex can be considered grounds for divorce under a variety of legalistic labels.
Incidentally, in my own marriage I've got a lot of things working against me. #1, my wife has a degree in psychology. #2, she's a paralegal, and quite good at it. We've discussed marriage law in our state, and we know well enough going the divorce route is NOT in either of our best interests. Anyone even THINKING about getting married should spend some REAL time talking out how the marriage is going to work and what you expect from each other. If you both see there is cause for doubt in areas like money, family, sex/intimacy, and other things you value, it's best to part on good terms.
#71 (first one), also agree. And I'll add that if you want to CONTINUE having sex, don't get married. Kills the libido (hers, not his). Even worse when you have children. But there is a bright side, though one that tests your patience. After roughly 18 months, give or take, after giving birth, the "horny slut" in the wife CAN come back. Taking some form of steroid (cortisone, oral prednisone for unrelated illness) seems to help, also, as long as steroid use is not prolonged (it has long term NEGATIVE effects when used too much).
As to the rest, I know it appears that being a jerk attracts and keeps women more. But to be perfectly honest, I don't think I'd enjoy being with the kind of woman that is attracted to jerks. My wife had come out of an intense, abusive relationship just before we started dating, and I tried encouraging her to find "herself" within our relationship, not something that someone else molded and shaped her into. I was "molding and shaping" in my own way, but my main point was that the inner woman come out, that she be confident and assertive, and that she stop being someone else's doormat. I like to think that I "rule the roost" in our marriage and in our household, but the truth of the matter is we actually make pretty good foils for each other! I don't have to be something I'm not, which is the @$$hole that men are "supposed" to be, she doesn't have to feel unworthy of respect, and we both have individual and equal roles in the relationship.
re: # 4 I agree
re: # 2 I was interested in this guy once. He was charming, intelligent and nice looking. Like I said I was interested until one day I saw him exhibit exactly that behavior. My attraction to him turned off like a light switch. I do not like bullies. That kind of thing might work on any random woman at a Jerry Springer Show taping, but not me. Incidentally, I was right about him. I knew him for years and if he wasn't a sociopath, he was pretty close. He definitely was a serial abuser.