How often do really good looking guys date ugly women.

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09 Jan 2011, 11:46 am

Upon being in the real world for a few days. I notice a lot small percentage of ugly guys with good looking girls.



How common is the inverse. I know a good looking guy at work. He never dates average/ugly women..


I have seen AVERAGE girls with good looking men.....but no ugly girls with really good looking men. I am sure it exist. However, it doesn't appear to be very common...



Part of it has to deal with one concept:

It's ok for women to just stay at home and he housewives. Hence, a man's salary would have value to a good looking women in the lowerclass range. The inverse is NOT true....



So, an ugly guy who makes good money could take advantage of some poor pretty women(I have seen this with CNAs) where the opposite rarely happens.



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09 Jan 2011, 11:49 am

is this a question or a statement?



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09 Jan 2011, 12:00 pm

Kilroy wrote:
is this a question or a statement?



A question.



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09 Jan 2011, 12:07 pm

I've seen guys with what I would consider far less physically attractive spouses. I conclude that looks aren't everything.

I think usually people do end up with partners who are of a similar level of attractiveness, but you do get disparities, both ways. How often? Don't know. I've not conducted any surveys recently on the matter. I can't seem to make google spit out anything relevant either.


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09 Jan 2011, 12:31 pm

Is there a point to all this? Typically, a couple will have similar appearances in body shape and fashion, but this isn't always the case. You seem to be over-analyzing the exceptions. Looks matter more to men, because men are more aesthetic creatures than women are. Looks matter quite a bit to women, but not as much.



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09 Jan 2011, 12:44 pm

It's not all about looks. All the same a couple have to find each other at least attractive for it to work.

I read somewhere that very good looking people may pose a threat to some individuals because of questions of jealousy and insecurity.

Finances are important and this may be quite a difficult area for couples too, particularly in difficult economic times where one or either partner is unemployed..


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09 Jan 2011, 12:55 pm

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09 Jan 2011, 2:02 pm

The closest thing I have seen to this is a relative of my stepsibling has a brother who I would guess is average-very good looking (I suck at judging this :?) and his wife is not what I or anyone in my family would call attractive. Although this opinion is heightened by her personality...


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09 Jan 2011, 2:19 pm

It really depends. Remember, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What you might find ugly another guy might find attractive.

I really cannot speak for anyone, because I never saw an ugly human being before.

What I notice is that females who have good looks almost always have boyfriends (or some girlfriends. Can't count out the lesbians). Girls who look or act more awkward (or are more intelligent) will not have a spouse either because no one is interested or they are not interested.



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09 Jan 2011, 2:20 pm

techn0teen wrote:
It really depends. Remember, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What you might find ugly another guy might find attractive.

I really cannot speak for anyone, because I never saw an ugly human being before.

What I notice is that females who have good looks almost always have boyfriends (or some girlfriends. Can't count out the lesbians). Girls who look or act more awkward (or are more intelligent) will not have a spouse either because no one is interested or they are not interested.


I do agree, but I think if someone has unappealing features, they can be highlighted by a crappy personality or masked/ignored due to a good personality.


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09 Jan 2011, 2:35 pm

I'd actually figure its more common for ugly guys to be with attractive women, though I doubt its drastically more common.

Some guys for example do like bigger women. Some guys perhaps have come to, as some posters have mentioned previously, come to see dating attractive women as either a constant ego battle, sometimes petty attitude or lack of maturity, and what's more they may be quite used to not even being able to go to bars or clubs with them because the challenges from other guys never stop.

Also you have guys who have atypical personalities, know that they do, and somewhere along the line realize that they'd rather be into someone who can be into them and share the same values, and if they're at least minimally attracted that's all that counts. Chemistry initially starts off with some amount of looks but admittedly personality and emotional chemistry can be twice as strong. Being with a very attractive girl who doesn't appreciate me or doesn't get me vs. taking a more average looking girl who I can share my soul with and vice a verse - it seems like a no-brainer sometimes.



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09 Jan 2011, 3:33 pm

I just hope that in the future certain technologies like eyeglasses removal, facial hair removal and stomach fat removal may make men more attractive to women.

In addition our brains will evolve over time so what we don't find attractive now we will almost surely find attractive in the future.



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09 Jan 2011, 5:05 pm

Wow. Okay, well...

It is okay for father to stay at home to care for their own children full time while the mother provides income for the household. There are plenty of families with this dynamic. We're moving beyond the "Mr. Mom" myth where men are incompetent at handling children and do things like dry wet baby butts over air dryers in public restrooms. There is still some incredible back-patting for stay-at-home dads that stay-at-home moms don't get. It's a bit like calling someone with AS "articulate". "You're so articulate!" as if that person had expected the aspie to be a bumbling idiot. Well, we still have to move past the hump where there's an assumption that dads are bumbling idiots with kids. "You're so wonderful with your kids!" shouldn't be a surprised compliment when all he's doing to playing with them at the park. That's a DAD. The ones who aren't doing that are screwing it up.

Additionally, there are superficial people in the world who are willing to marry for money. Hey, maybe that 21 year old blonde with the fake boobs does genuinely love that 87 year old wealthy guy with the coronary condition. Who knows! But there are both men and women who are golddiggers. There are also men and women who refuse to date someone who isn't a traditional definition of beautiful. Then there are people who are looking for something else, something extraordinary. If we've only embraced traditional definitions of beauty, we may not always understand.



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09 Jan 2011, 6:26 pm

I think of the movie "Shallow Hal" whenever I hear anything about this. If people didn't judge others based merely on superficial features we would all be loving equally great lives.



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09 Jan 2011, 8:48 pm

I rarely see "good looking" men with average/below average women, but I'll often see above average women with average/below average men. I read some article (this was a while ago so I couldn't find it again) that men expect women "out of their league" as far as looks concern because of what they see in the media. There are so many TV shows with overweight balding men and gorgeous wives (the example the article used was King of Queens) that some people have started conforming to that in real life.

Although it's not uncommon, I think it's becoming a little less common for wives to stay home with the kids, thus looking for mates who make more money. Sometimes the husbands stay home and women are getting pregnant at older ages and using surrogate mothers, so they're having their own careers before they get pregnant. But there are still women and men who will marry for money.

But we have to remember that what we see as physically attractive isn't necessarily attractive to everyone else when we're talking about people's looks as average, below average, etc.


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09 Jan 2011, 9:03 pm

astaut wrote:
I rarely see "good looking" men with average/below average women, but I'll often see above average women with average/below average men. I read some article (this was a while ago so I couldn't find it again) that men expect women "out of their league" as far as looks concern because of what they see in the media. There are so many TV shows with overweight balding men and gorgeous wives (the example the article used was King of Queens) that some people have started conforming to that in real life.

Although it's not uncommon, I think it's becoming a little less common for wives to stay home with the kids, thus looking for mates who make more money. Sometimes the husbands stay home and women are getting pregnant at older ages and using surrogate mothers, so they're having their own careers before they get pregnant. But there are still women and men who will marry for money.

But we have to remember that what we see as physically attractive isn't necessarily attractive to everyone else when we're talking about people's looks as average, below average, etc.



There's this good looking guy at work who only dates good looking girls....