What the hell do guys want in a girl(in general)

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Ai_Ling
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20 Feb 2011, 3:27 am

yes I know everyone wants something different. For me, its very very hard to attract a guy in person, not that I havent, it just doesnt happen very often. For me online dating works way better cause I can control my impression that Im making on the person way better, just making friends in general is 10x easier for me. Im thinking that there are guys that would want someone like me, I just dont make a good impression on guys in person.

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I have decent looks, I have decent accomplishments, Im intelligent, not overly emotional or clingy(not anymore), not too sensative (not anymore), I make strong attempts to get to know people I know like forming deeper connections not just superficial ones, im very honest and straightfoward, Im not superficial at all Im real, Im not a huge shopper( as in Im not gonna drag a guy into clothing store and stay their for hrs), I dance, Im a very hardworker, I dont give up easily, Im not overly concerned with my apperance(i can imagine itd be kinda annoying to have a gf whos overly concerned with her apperance)

Not so attractive traits
I still have low self confidence(working on it), insecure(working on it), too blunt at times, I can joke around like a guy at times( guessing thats not terribly attractive), i can appear aloof at times, I can say things that are often off, I have a hard time making initial RL impressions, I dont flirt very often, I dont spend time making myself look good(I can dress fashionably when I wanna, I dont wear makeup tho), I lack a lotta the traits that are valued in females(you know nice, sweet, caring, empathetic: that crap), im socially clueless at times(I have my friends acting as translators often), I think too much(which ppl can find annoying at times)

Many guys are generally find me fine as a friend but not as anything more. I was wondering: what do guys find attractive in girls, yes I know the responce a lotta people would say: everyone has different preferences but Im saying "in general".



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20 Feb 2011, 6:31 am

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What the hell do guys want in a girl?


Their penis, usually

With slight variations of deviancy


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20 Feb 2011, 6:33 am

Meh, I'm sure there are guys out there who'd do you AND keep you around later on.

You're a girl after all.



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20 Feb 2011, 6:40 am

In answer to your question.

You are probably failing to reciprocate and give non-verbal ques and gestures as to your intentions. Therefore you are not giving a person the "permission" to be able to initiate to the next stage of intimacy.

What I have noticed with some women on the spectrum and what might work for you (and they would be better to articulate this then me) is they throw the "stereotype" social etique book in the bin of traditional conventions of how women go about seeking a relationship. So you are actually the ones that go out and seek people and approach them. You take the initiative and you make direct and assertive moves to indicate to the person you are interested in what your intentions are directly so there is no room for ambiquity.

I certainly can't imagine thats something anyone would be comfortable doing. But if you have the determination to give it a try you might find that will convery yourself in a better way to men because it shows that you have the ability to take decisive actions. Combined with your positive characteristics it will convery you in quite a positive light that you can put yourself out there in some respect.

What you are doing in error is reflecting that your experiances indicate there is something fundamentally wrong with you that you are unattractive. It's not worth pursuing that route, there is no pointing in changing who you are or what you look like in order to suit the desires of other people. Its a path of unhappyness and ill content that will make you a slave to other peoples imaginations and desire.

If someone likes you and connects with you on a wavelength that will have been present from the beginning. All that will happen is you will both become aware of each others existance and then the natural cycle of bonding will take place. Were not very complex creatures to understand men :P


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20 Feb 2011, 7:44 am

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You are probably failing to reciprocate and give non-verbal ques and gestures as to your intentions. Therefore you are not giving a person the "permission" to be able to initiate to the next stage of intimacy.


Bingo, I think. I was always bad at that, partly due to extreme detachment so that anything I might say or do it was as if I was watching myself from a distance and it just felt awkward and the over-riding fear that being in a relationship would have me lose my self. There was a guy I was really attracted to and he would say such nice things and I would just say um and give a weak smile in response. I thought about him constantly too. :roll:



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20 Feb 2011, 8:33 am

Well, what I personally want is someone I can talk to freely, someone who's intelligent, someone who can accept certain facts about me, someone who is musical, who likes animals and finally, someone who's positive and fun to be around.

What I don't care for is accomplishments, looks(To a degree. How someone looks can tell you a lot about the person.), disorders, body and how they dress. There's a couple I'm likely forgetting, but that's the gist of it.

What I don't like in a woman, narcissism, the attitude of "I'm a woman, I'm more important in a relationship" attitude, peroxide blonde, piercings and tattoos, and finally, the "sex is necessary" attitude.

But I'm one of those wierd, messed up guys, so don't expect what I like to be similar to most guys.



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20 Feb 2011, 9:38 am

someone to make them dinner and have their babies. 8)



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20 Feb 2011, 9:57 am

Not even that far. What guy wants to get stuck with a kid? Just make dinner and be used for sexual gratification.



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20 Feb 2011, 10:02 am

Quartz11 wrote:
Not even that far. What guy wants to get stuck with a kid? Just make dinner and be used for sexual gratification.


I was going to say dinner + sex, but i thought that wasn't very classy. :lol:



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20 Feb 2011, 10:15 am

emlion wrote:
someone to make them dinner and have their babies. 8)


I want someone who appreciates it when I make her dinner.



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20 Feb 2011, 12:44 pm

Laz wrote:
In answer to your question.

You are probably failing to reciprocate and give non-verbal ques and gestures as to your intentions. Therefore you are not giving a person the "permission" to be able to initiate to the next stage of intimacy.

What I have noticed with some women on the spectrum and what might work for you (and they would be better to articulate this then me) is they throw the "stereotype" social etique book in the bin of traditional conventions of how women go about seeking a relationship. So you are actually the ones that go out and seek people and approach them. You take the initiative and you make direct and assertive moves to indicate to the person you are interested in what your intentions are directly so there is no room for ambiquity.


In person I dont outwardly seek relationships due to my shyness, online Im much more aggressive with guys when it comes to that stuff. Offline I typically just try to be friends with them, the thing I end up acting too much like a friend and not like a love interest. When it comes to things in general yes I do completely throw the "stereotype" social etique book out. Thats just not me, Im not gonna adhere to some stupid female social norms. Overall I dont like the idea that the women has to flirt and hint to the guy her interest then its up to the guy to seek her out. I mean now days girls do ask guys out but its still not terribly common. I mean whats wrong with the women seeking out the guy. I find it hard to hint to guys. The most in terms of flirting I can do is smile a lot and laugh at them. But the way I do it isnt nessarily "cute".



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20 Feb 2011, 1:14 pm

Laz wrote:
In answer to your question.

You are probably failing to reciprocate and give non-verbal ques and gestures as to your intentions. Therefore you are not giving a person the "permission" to be able to initiate to the next stage of intimacy.


I agree that this may be the reason for the whole problem. I even had some guys telling me that i seem distant cold or even arrogant (tho i really never feel or try to seem that way). But the bigger problem is that i live in a country where a girl making the move on a guy is not appreciated. I mean i discussed this matter with some of my male friends (some of them really smart and inteligent) and they say that the girl who's making the first move loses any interest to them cuz she's "too avaliable". So i guess i'm cursed - stuck between looking too cold and being "too avaliable"... :?



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20 Feb 2011, 1:22 pm

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You are probably failing to reciprocate and give non-verbal ques and gestures as to your intentions. Therefore you are not giving a person the "permission" to be able to initiate to the next stage of intimacy.


This! I made the same mistake myself; I thought that if a guy liked me, he'd just ask me out, simple as. In reality, some guys do ask a girl out without testing the water, but they tend to be either drunk or arrogant as f* (in my experience).

Also, you might be falling into a few pitfalls that I used to as well; don't believe every guy that moans about his girlfriend being too clingy/fashion conscious(aka well dressed)/chatty etc in front of his mates... quite often it's a bravado act put on in front of other guys (there are of course exceptions). I'm not saying you should warp into one of those girls, but just be aware that a lot of guys actually like girls like that so I wouldn't necessarily see it as being a plus point; it's just who you are. And there will be someone out there who actually does like that.



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20 Feb 2011, 3:28 pm

keira wrote:
Laz wrote:
In answer to your question.

You are probably failing to reciprocate and give non-verbal ques and gestures as to your intentions. Therefore you are not giving a person the "permission" to be able to initiate to the next stage of intimacy.


I agree that this may be the reason for the whole problem. I even had some guys telling me that i seem distant cold or even arrogant (tho i really never feel or try to seem that way). But the bigger problem is that i live in a country where a girl making the move on a guy is not appreciated. I mean i discussed this matter with some of my male friends (some of them really smart and inteligent) and they say that the girl who's making the first move loses any interest to them cuz she's "too avaliable". So i guess i'm cursed - stuck between looking too cold and being "too avaliable"... :?


Yeah, I was listening to a conversation with a few guys who were after some girls and they mentioned the whole "playing hard to get" thing. I kept asking why do girls play hard to get, it makes no sense? No one gave a good answer. To me, if the girls playing hard to get, the guy has to go to lengths to impress her and that just equals the guy putting on some sorta act to make her fall for him. Say she does? And they start dating somewhere along the lines the guys act is gonna fall apart and then what if she doesnt like him the way he actually is? Waste of time to me...shurgs...



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20 Feb 2011, 3:38 pm

Ai_Ling wrote:
Positive traits:
I have decent looks, I have decent accomplishments, Im intelligent, not overly emotional or clingy(not anymore), not too sensative (not anymore), I make strong attempts to get to know people I know like forming deeper connections not just superficial ones, im very honest and straightfoward, Im not superficial at all Im real, Im not a huge shopper( as in Im not gonna drag a guy into clothing store and stay their for hrs), I dance, Im a very hardworker, I dont give up easily, Im not overly concerned with my apperance(i can imagine itd be kinda annoying to have a gf whos overly concerned with her apperance)

Not so attractive traits
I still have low self confidence(working on it), insecure(working on it), too blunt at times, I can joke around like a guy at times( guessing thats not terribly attractive), i can appear aloof at times, I can say things that are often off, I have a hard time making initial RL impressions, I dont flirt very often, I dont spend time making myself look good(I can dress fashionably when I wanna, I dont wear makeup tho), I lack a lotta the traits that are valued in females(you know nice, sweet, caring, empathetic: that crap), im socially clueless at times(I have my friends acting as translators often), I think too much(which ppl can find annoying at times)


I find all the above, including those which you consider not so attractive to be wonderful things in a girl. Granted the low self confidence and insecurity thing I may read it as just being shy and quiet type (which is cute!).

Im guessing its this part:

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"I lack a lotta the traits that are valued in females(you know nice, sweet, caring, empathetic: that crap), im socially clueless at times(I have my friends acting as translators often)"


that puts a barrier between you and NT guys who try to approach you or consider approaching you.



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20 Feb 2011, 8:02 pm

emlion wrote:
someone to make them dinner and have their babies. 8)


Not this guy. Microwaving something myself usually keeps me satisfied, and I'd rather be skinned alive than have babies. :D