Love - can we feel it or are we just faking it?

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02 Mar 2011, 5:26 pm

Being an AS male, I have had a discussion regarding true feelings of love, with my girlfriend.

In my view, love is when you wish to do something for another person, that do not directly benefit yourself. Love is when you feel that your life is without meaning, without her in it! Love is picking up her daugther from school, taking care of her emotional needs, while forgetting to put the laundry away instead, because she is more important than laundry!

In her view, it is making me a good meal, that I enjoy. Baking me a cake, that I enjoy. Watching an action movie with me. Taking down the laundry, so she do not needs to, when she get home late from work, tired.

The real problem here is, if we want to make somebody feel loved, how do we show it? Or is the only way to do what they want us to do, to make them feel loved. To complicated for my AS brain :-)

In short, how do you define love and how do you show it?

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02 Mar 2011, 5:30 pm

Gary Chapman has come up with this concept of the Five Love Languages, or ways that people express and understand love. I think it's kind of interesting. His five categories are: gift-giving, words of affirmation, quality time, acts of service, and physical affection. According to him, in order to make someone feel the most loved, you figure out what their primary love languages are and then express your love to them in those languages. At least, that's my understanding.



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02 Mar 2011, 5:42 pm

mangos wrote:
Gary Chapman has come up with this concept of the Five Love Languages, or ways that people express and understand love. I think it's kind of interesting. His five categories are: gift-giving, words of affirmation, quality time, acts of service, and physical affection. According to him, in order to make someone feel the most loved, you figure out what their primary love languages are and then express your love to them in those languages. At least, that's my understanding.


That makes sense. Of course, that's true for all means of communication. Some people speak the language of "I'm always right, and if you like Obama, you are wrong, I say, wrong!!" We all know one or two of them. Some people speak the language of "Make me feel less insecure by any means necessary, and I'll love you forever" You can add to this list on your own. I'm personally more of a quality time and a words of affirmation type of person, with physical affection in there too.



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02 Mar 2011, 5:46 pm

I feel love and I feel loved.

I try to show my bf that I care by giving a back massage when he looks stressed or finding something cool for him (an odd bookmark, his favorite authors new book or something else that's interesting). He shows it by helping me in the kitchen when it's my day and I'm tired, and some other things that, while are not intimate, feel to personal to me for to share.


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02 Mar 2011, 6:15 pm

I love autism and wrong planet.



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02 Mar 2011, 6:18 pm

I do things like make my partners food, bring them meals, make them cards and gifts, rub backs etc.



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02 Mar 2011, 6:19 pm

i love my boyfriend.
i'd trust him with my life.



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02 Mar 2011, 6:24 pm

It takes time for me to show my love. I can't really define love though, I just know when I'm in it. It's more than just a feeling.



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02 Mar 2011, 7:11 pm

I think the closest we can come to love is finding a mutual ground with someone, sharing traits such as respect, loyalty, trust and just selflessly giving and being devoted to one another in a relationship. I think that's what truly defines love and to what extent those traits are shown rather than basing the strength of a relationship on physical intimacy and romantic gestures.



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02 Mar 2011, 7:15 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
I think the closest we can come to love is finding a mutual ground with someone, sharing traits such as respect, loyalty, trust and just selflessly giving and being devoted to one another in a relationship. I think that's what truly defines love and to what extent those traits are shown rather than basing the strength of a relationship on physical intimacy and romantic gestures.



I agree with this.



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02 Mar 2011, 9:52 pm

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Love is a temporary madness. It erupts like an earthquake and then subsides. And when it subsides you have to make a decision. You have to work out whether your roots have become so entwined together that it is inconceivable that you should ever part. Because this is what love is. Love is not breathlessness, it is not excitement, it is not the promulgation of promises of eternal passion. That is just being "in love" which any of us can convince ourselves we are. Love itself is what is left over when being in love has burned away, and this is both an art and a fortunate accident ... we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two.


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02 Mar 2011, 10:51 pm

mangos wrote:
Gary Chapman has come up with this concept of the Five Love Languages, or ways that people express and understand love. I think it's kind of interesting. His five categories are: gift-giving, words of affirmation, quality time, acts of service, and physical affection. According to him, in order to make someone feel the most loved, you figure out what their primary love languages are and then express your love to them in those languages. At least, that's my understanding.


A thousand times THIS THIS THIS!



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02 Mar 2011, 11:07 pm

Sigh*

I have often wondered the same thing. The relationships I have been in always get to a certain critical point and fail. The closer I get to someone the more awkward and lost I become. I have found that I cannot connect with anyone to a point required of a serious relationship and the despair this has caused has been on orders of magnitude far greater than I would of ever imagined.

It wasn't that big of an issue until I met someone that I actually did desire to be closer to, and my efforts to achieve this end were all but futile - leaving me with a feeling of emptiness I can't even begin to address :(

Even the primitive stages of intimacy scare me to death. A problem I have regretably addressed with substances :(

At the end of the day people and what motivates them to behave in the way they do and carry out they actions they display, utterly confounds me :(



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02 Mar 2011, 11:34 pm

I wonder if the title of this thread being unrelated to the opening post is perhaps an attempt to draw more people in with an inflammatory question or an experiment to see who responds to thread titles without reading OPs.


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02 Mar 2011, 11:46 pm

If we are 'faking it' I'd say the term love needs redefinition to rectify the problem - ie. a lot of us, perhaps most of us, have no shortage of emotional bond to those close to us as well as those who we're bringing close to us. The difference between us and NT's, by nature, is that our social wiring changes the economy of what behaviorally works for us and what doesn't, hence we won't show it in the same ways as we can't - the way it comes out we've often found out the hard way that we really can't go on instinct or at least need years of heavily modifying instinct to make it fit the broader paradigm.


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03 Mar 2011, 12:42 am

Kaybee wrote:
I wonder if the title of this thread being unrelated to the opening post is perhaps an attempt to draw more people in with an inflammatory question or an experiment to see who responds to thread titles without reading OPs.


Great question!

I totally missed the opposite side of the question, due to having AS and suddenly focusing on something else than I meant, all together. Thanks for pointing that out!

What I missed to say is, that we had the discussion, because I didn't feel loved, by a cake or a meal, but by psychical or verbal affirmation. She does it by receiving gifts, according to the Love Languages.

The issue was, wether or not we with AS are ABLE to feel real NT love or if we are just "faking it" by being more sympathetic than empathetic. I have a sneaking sensation, that I do stuff for her, to gain stuff from her, more than from unselfish reasons.

Make any sense now?

/AG