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07 Feb 2011, 11:52 am

Have any guys on this site ever go whole hog to ask a girl to marry them only to have the girl say no? Whole hog is hiring a chorus to sing "Marry Me" and going to an expensive restaurant, getting down on one knee and popping the question with about 500 strangers and the chorale singers gawking at you. Well? and How did you cope? 8O



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07 Feb 2011, 12:03 pm

No, but you might consider moving to the Aleutian Islands.



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07 Feb 2011, 12:49 pm

Dang. It's polite in such a situation to say "Yes"... then after you get home, you give the ring back and explain it aint never gonna happen.



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07 Feb 2011, 2:10 pm

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Dang. It's polite in such a situation to say "Yes"... then after you get home, you give the ring back and explain it aint never gonna happen.


It's polite to lie like that? Really? By whose rules? I would think something like "I can't give you an answer right now--can we talk in private?" would be a more acceptable way of turning a man down than lying to him publicly like that. Or do I place too much value on honesty?



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07 Feb 2011, 2:48 pm

Mercurial wrote:
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Dang. It's polite in such a situation to say "Yes"... then after you get home, you give the ring back and explain it aint never gonna happen.


It's polite to lie like that? Really? By whose rules? I would think something like "I can't give you an answer right now--can we talk in private?" would be a more acceptable way of turning a man down than lying to him publicly like that. Or do I place too much value on honesty?


It'd be too much pressure for me to let so many people down. Most of them won't care about whether or not the guy gets the girl after the moment they're involved. They just want to see a "Yes". So, yeah, give people what they want and then have a discussion with the guy later, adding in an explanation on why such a proposal is really inappropriate.

Or, you know, say "No way!" and have choirs of people, onlookers and everyone else around absolutely hate you for being a b****... because that's how that turns out.



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07 Feb 2011, 5:32 pm

wefunction wrote:
Mercurial wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Dang. It's polite in such a situation to say "Yes"... then after you get home, you give the ring back and explain it aint never gonna happen.


It's polite to lie like that? Really? By whose rules? I would think something like "I can't give you an answer right now--can we talk in private?" would be a more acceptable way of turning a man down than lying to him publicly like that. Or do I place too much value on honesty?


It'd be too much pressure for me to let so many people down. Most of them won't care about whether or not the guy gets the girl after the moment they're involved. They just want to see a "Yes". So, yeah, give people what they want and then have a discussion with the guy later, adding in an explanation on why such a proposal is really inappropriate.

Or, you know, say "No way!" and have choirs of people, onlookers and everyone else around absolutely hate you for being a b****... because that's how that turns out.
Give a crowd of strangers what they want, but don't give the man an honest answer without humiliating him? Wtf?



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07 Feb 2011, 5:38 pm

Biokinetica wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Mercurial wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Dang. It's polite in such a situation to say "Yes"... then after you get home, you give the ring back and explain it aint never gonna happen.


It's polite to lie like that? Really? By whose rules? I would think something like "I can't give you an answer right now--can we talk in private?" would be a more acceptable way of turning a man down than lying to him publicly like that. Or do I place too much value on honesty?


It'd be too much pressure for me to let so many people down. Most of them won't care about whether or not the guy gets the girl after the moment they're involved. They just want to see a "Yes". So, yeah, give people what they want and then have a discussion with the guy later, adding in an explanation on why such a proposal is really inappropriate.

Or, you know, say "No way!" and have choirs of people, onlookers and everyone else around absolutely hate you for being a b****... because that's how that turns out.
Give a crowd of strangers what they want, but don't give the man an honest answer without humiliating him? Wtf?


Well, it's kind of an as*hole thing to do if you put a girl on the spot in front of 500 people. Unless you are absolutely sure she is going to say yes, then don't do it. And even then, if she is the kind of girl that you are in love with and loves you back, you probably wouldn't do something like that to her. Even if I was ready to marry someone, and they did that, I would say yes, but seriously question my future with that person afterwards.



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07 Feb 2011, 7:08 pm

Mindslave wrote:
Biokinetica wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Mercurial wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Dang. It's polite in such a situation to say "Yes"... then after you get home, you give the ring back and explain it aint never gonna happen.


It's polite to lie like that? Really? By whose rules? I would think something like "I can't give you an answer right now--can we talk in private?" would be a more acceptable way of turning a man down than lying to him publicly like that. Or do I place too much value on honesty?


It'd be too much pressure for me to let so many people down. Most of them won't care about whether or not the guy gets the girl after the moment they're involved. They just want to see a "Yes". So, yeah, give people what they want and then have a discussion with the guy later, adding in an explanation on why such a proposal is really inappropriate.

Or, you know, say "No way!" and have choirs of people, onlookers and everyone else around absolutely hate you for being a b****... because that's how that turns out.
Give a crowd of strangers what they want, but don't give the man an honest answer without humiliating him? Wtf?


Well, it's kind of an as*hole thing to do if you put a girl on the spot in front of 500 people. Unless you are absolutely sure she is going to say yes, then don't do it. And even then, if she is the kind of girl that you are in love with and loves you back, you probably wouldn't do something like that to her. Even if I was ready to marry someone, and they did that, I would say yes, but seriously question my future with that person afterwards.

This "as*hole thing to do" used to be tradition.



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07 Feb 2011, 8:01 pm

Biokinetica wrote:
Mindslave wrote:
Biokinetica wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Mercurial wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Dang. It's polite in such a situation to say "Yes"... then after you get home, you give the ring back and explain it aint never gonna happen.


It's polite to lie like that? Really? By whose rules? I would think something like "I can't give you an answer right now--can we talk in private?" would be a more acceptable way of turning a man down than lying to him publicly like that. Or do I place too much value on honesty?


It'd be too much pressure for me to let so many people down. Most of them won't care about whether or not the guy gets the girl after the moment they're involved. They just want to see a "Yes". So, yeah, give people what they want and then have a discussion with the guy later, adding in an explanation on why such a proposal is really inappropriate.

Or, you know, say "No way!" and have choirs of people, onlookers and everyone else around absolutely hate you for being a b****... because that's how that turns out.
Give a crowd of strangers what they want, but don't give the man an honest answer without humiliating him? Wtf?


Well, it's kind of an as*hole thing to do if you put a girl on the spot in front of 500 people. Unless you are absolutely sure she is going to say yes, then don't do it. And even then, if she is the kind of girl that you are in love with and loves you back, you probably wouldn't do something like that to her. Even if I was ready to marry someone, and they did that, I would say yes, but seriously question my future with that person afterwards.

This "as*hole thing to do" used to be tradition.


So have been large, elaborate, expensive weddings, which have also been degraded and trashed on this very forum. :wink:

ETA: In fact, on the weddings topic, it was said that any bride who wanted a big, expensive wedding cared more about the party than she cared about her spouse or marriage. By that logic, one might also suggest any man who proposes in such an expensive, elaborate way cares more about what others think (the 500 or so onlookers) than the woman he's supposedly offering his life to.



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07 Feb 2011, 8:04 pm

I'm thinking about asking the pig for thier hand in holy matrimoney, I mean matrimony.
whatever was i thinking? :jester:


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07 Feb 2011, 9:26 pm

Mindslave wrote:

Well, it's kind of an as*hole thing to do if you put a girl on the spot in front of 500 people.


Ditto.

Any guy that does this is putting severe peer pressure on the girl to say yes. Its a trap. Dirty one too.

If yer gonna spend that much cash why not fly her to Venice to pop the question and jump off the gondola & swim off if she says no? :P

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This "as*hole thing to do" used to be tradition.


That tradition was from the days where marriages were pre-arranged by the families..not for love. They were economic alliances through marriage. The girl nor the groom could not refuse. The big wedding and reception was nothing more than a formal social celebration so both families could show off how wealthy they were.

Today that tradition only serves to make the poor poorer and the rich more visible.



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07 Feb 2011, 9:39 pm

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07 Feb 2011, 11:14 pm

people should learn not to do that unless they're POSITIVE she'd say yes.



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08 Feb 2011, 12:58 am

i have never had a girlfriend so no, i have not. but i don't think i would use i chorus, i think i would go with a mariachi band 8)


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08 Feb 2011, 5:21 am

wefunction wrote:
Biokinetica wrote:
Mindslave wrote:
Biokinetica wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Mercurial wrote:
wefunction wrote:
Dang. It's polite in such a situation to say "Yes"... then after you get home, you give the ring back and explain it aint never gonna happen.


It's polite to lie like that? Really? By whose rules? I would think something like "I can't give you an answer right now--can we talk in private?" would be a more acceptable way of turning a man down than lying to him publicly like that. Or do I place too much value on honesty?


It'd be too much pressure for me to let so many people down. Most of them won't care about whether or not the guy gets the girl after the moment they're involved. They just want to see a "Yes". So, yeah, give people what they want and then have a discussion with the guy later, adding in an explanation on why such a proposal is really inappropriate.

Or, you know, say "No way!" and have choirs of people, onlookers and everyone else around absolutely hate you for being a b****... because that's how that turns out.
Give a crowd of strangers what they want, but don't give the man an honest answer without humiliating him? Wtf?


Well, it's kind of an as*hole thing to do if you put a girl on the spot in front of 500 people. Unless you are absolutely sure she is going to say yes, then don't do it. And even then, if she is the kind of girl that you are in love with and loves you back, you probably wouldn't do something like that to her. Even if I was ready to marry someone, and they did that, I would say yes, but seriously question my future with that person afterwards.

This "as*hole thing to do" used to be tradition.


So have been large, elaborate, expensive weddings, which have also been degraded and trashed on this very forum. :wink:

ETA: In fact, on the weddings topic, it was said that any bride who wanted a big, expensive wedding cared more about the party than she cared about her spouse or marriage. By that logic, one might also suggest any man who proposes in such an expensive, elaborate way cares more about what others think (the 500 or so onlookers) than the woman he's supposedly offering his life to.

That doesn't mean you should degrade and trash the person proposing. That's crass behavior no matter how you dress it up. By doing this, you're no better than the person proposing, making you both scumbags. I never said the person was right in doing this, and personally don't agree with it; it's just that this doesn't solve anyone's problem and doesn't make you any better than them.
Dantac wrote:
Biokinetica wrote:
This "as*hole thing to do" used to be tradition.


That tradition was from the days where marriages were pre-arranged by the families..not for love. They were economic alliances through marriage. The girl nor the groom could not refuse. The big wedding and reception was nothing more than a formal social celebration so both families could show off how wealthy they were.

Today that tradition only serves to make the poor poorer and the rich more visible.

I'm not looking for your philosophy on why rich people do what they do. Stay on topic.



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08 Feb 2011, 10:11 am

Vigilans wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXkzLpk6zdE[/youtube]


I think that it turned out that the whole thing was made up (i.e., the proposal wasn't real, and both parties knew it) in order to generate some free publicity for that team.