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richardbenson
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13 Jan 2008, 3:36 pm

alright whos thought about marrying a girl from russia in excahnge for citizenship? i have, and its exatley what im gonna do if im not dating by the time im 30. of course i'll only do it if it is the last option. actually i think this is a great idea for the aspergers sufferers, what do you think?


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13 Jan 2008, 4:16 pm

Well, it will eliminate the need to meet, date, and woo her, but without interpersonal skills it will be difficult to keep the relationship going.

Still, if it works for you fine. I know some people here get escorts and I'm fine with that too. Everyone deserves affection in some form.



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13 Jan 2008, 4:17 pm

Whoa...;)

Like most other things of this level of seriousness, you want to be sure of your facts, and your money. This doesn't come cheap; back in the 90s, it was about $4,000+ to make the deal go through, heaven knows what it is now. It also involves you going to Russia in the first place, which is even more expensive. And, as the old saying goes, 'marry in haste, repent at lesiure'.

Some of these matches do work out; evidently some of us pay more attention than the local guys do. You want to be sure of what you're getting into.

I had a friend who got into the Phillipino bride side. He got a bride, and convinced several of his friends to go along and get brides for themselves as well. I (for once) wisely abstained. Good thing; after his wife was naturalized, she, and all her friends, went through divorces, leaving all the guys stranded with no wives. The original woman actually had a Phillipino boyfriend who patiently waited for the deal to go down, then was whisked to this country to be united with his partner.

It may work out, you may get lucky. But luck happens to those who prepare for it. I'd check a few more local (and cheaper) options before going that way.



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13 Jan 2008, 4:26 pm

I thought that the Russian brides were really scams?

Aren't they all about getting you to send money to Russia so that they can come over... but the money doesn't go to a bride at all.



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13 Jan 2008, 4:38 pm

thanks pakled, i dunno it might be a scam. but i thought us citizenship was highly coveted around the world, :lol:


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13 Jan 2008, 4:42 pm

I'd rather be alone with my pets then order a husband. 8)



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13 Jan 2008, 4:45 pm

meh. im just throwing ideas out there, im shure i wont do it. i just want to insult my family as much as possible i guess :lol:


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13 Jan 2008, 5:09 pm

My main argument against mail order brides is that, since it's a deal for money, they're pretty unlikely to love you. I find the idea of paying someone to be with you demeaning. If they were interested in marrying for love they would likely stay in Russia.



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13 Jan 2008, 5:13 pm

I actually met a woman who came in to the country as a mail order bride at my first job. She only stayed married to the guy long enough to become a citizen, then she promptly applied for a divorce. There was a pre-nup, so she got pretty much nothing but her ring after the divorce, but she was in the process of working her way through college.


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13 Jan 2008, 5:24 pm

Richard (and anyone else who is thinking of going this route), here are a few things you might want to take a look at.

First is an article about the different scams out there, and the things legitimate agencies are doing to try to weed out the con-artists: "Russian Online Marriage Fraud Is Booming"
http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/2111.cfm

Next, take a look at a few marriage websites. Here are three:
http://www.aforeignaffair.com/
http://www.aprettywoman.com/
http://www.elenasmodels.com/

Those web sites contain some interesting information about Russian women, and why they are looking for foreign husbands. I recommend that you also run a few searches and look at the women's profiles. Don't just look at the pictures --yes, some of the ladies are very pretty-- read their brief self-descriptions. I think you will find that a lot of these women are outgoing, adventuresome people, who are looking for a husband to start a family with. They like travelling, hanging out with friends, going to restaurants, dinner parties, clubs, etc. Some of them already have children. Is that the type of person you are looking for and think you could sustain a relationship with? For me, it would be a disaster. C'est la vie.



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13 Jan 2008, 5:37 pm

Better hope she doesn't expect you to speak any Russian, Richard. It's a notoriously hard language to learn. They don't even have the same alphabet as us. Although, confusingly, some of the letters look the same, but are pronounced differently.



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13 Jan 2008, 5:44 pm

Maybe give "birthday girl" with Nicole Kidman, a rent too.

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13 Jan 2008, 5:47 pm

Цыриллиц ис цоол ман!



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13 Jan 2008, 7:03 pm

Ohhhh, I had a friend that did this. They come over with nothing and become “Americanized”. That’s right, they learn to shop, demand and do nothing in return. The prenup sounds good. It is rare that one comes over with brains and talent who wants to make something of herself here. If she had that much going on, she would be able to come on a sponsored work visa.


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13 Jan 2008, 7:15 pm

Last year, I watched a movie, called "Je Vous Trouve Tres Beau"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450664/

about an old French widower who is trying to find a new wife. He rather soon gives up on the local French women, and picks one out in Romania.

He is more interested in someone who will be more of a typical French farmer's wife--just interested in working, not interested in any niceties. She is more feminine than he would have wanted.

It follows somewhat typical lovestory patterns--they break up, she returns to Romania, but, then they reunite and he becomes sweet.

Anyway, my understanding of the Russian situation is that a lot of Russian women find Russian men to be unattractive because they drink and smoke heavily, are unhealthy and have short life spans.

Many women trying to leave the country end up in prostitution.

If you were interested in exploring this route, then my advice to you would be to take the time to learn the Russian language, and spend some time living in the country, and getting to know the women. Some guys go into the country for two weeks, get married, and then leave, and wait for up to a year until their wives' visas have been processed.

I took some Russian lessons when I was employed at the Argonne National Laboratory--basically just for fun. The language isn't too bad, although I never got to the point where I could read a newspaper article, because writers of newspaper articles use a lot of difficult nuances that are hard to catch for the non-native speaker. This was what my Russian teacher liked to have me do--read and try to translate Russian newspaper articles.

As for the Philippines, most of the women who sign up for this are poor, and are interested in helping their families economically. They will be sending a lot of money back home. As far as I know, most marriages work out fine. All educated Filipinos speak English--which could be a factor if you are worried about language.



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13 Jan 2008, 8:43 pm

aww Richard- that just sounds sad to me because all I can think of is she just wants that citizenship and she'll leave you at the drop of a hat. You have to wonder why these girls are marrying themselves off so far away from their families like that.

You'd be better off moving to a city with a large Russian community.