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The_Postmaster
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08 Jun 2011, 9:14 pm

So anyway I happened to catch the girl I like on fb chat today, and struck up conversation with her. I was just wondering how you guys think it went, possible improvements that could be made to my conversation skills, and any other advice you would be willing to give.

Me: Hey *****, what's up?
Her: Hiii ****. Studying whata bout you?
Me: Nothing really, I don't plan on studying for any of my finals/regents, except math
You're studying for what btw?
Her: why?! Im studying for english and child psych
Me: Because studying is boring, and I can probably get decent grades anyway
Is your english teacher making you write a critical lens on the crucible and one other book?
Her: Nope on any books we want that we read in school
Well i gots ta go study more:P byeee
Me: bye
Names have been censored, so yeah, we're not cursing at each other.



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08 Jun 2011, 10:27 pm

Not bad, taking something you know both have in common and making it into a small conversation.



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08 Jun 2011, 11:37 pm

Looks like it went fine. I don't think I could have done any better.


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09 Jun 2011, 1:59 am

it wasn't bad or anything.

Do you guys talk regularly and if so, do you guys get on academically? I gather that you are very smart and that you are very interested in her studies.


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09 Jun 2011, 4:59 am

Well done. I like to think that if it had been me I'd have asked her what attracted her to child psychology, but there's probably no rush.......I always want to know what their hopes and dreams are, and the subject choice is an obvious handle on that.



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09 Jun 2011, 6:01 am

I wouldn't go bragging that you get good grades without studying, to a person who is obviously studying hard. A person with good study habits may feel that you are a lazy person, or that you are too arrogant about your intelligence.

In general, whenever a person says they're doing something (studying, walking the dog, going to the gym, cleaning their room, or whatever), your best response is to agree with what they're doing.

For example,

1. "I'm studying for finals."
Agreeing response: "Yeah, I need to study more myself, especially math." -or- "I'm gonna have to cram an all-nighter."
Disagreeing response: "I don't even need to study to get good grades."

2. "I'm walking the dog."
Agreeing response: "Cool what kinda dog? What's her name?"
Disagreeing response: "I don't like dogs, I'm allergic."

3. "I'm going to work out at the gym."
Agreeing response: "Hey I noticed you've been looking really good lately. Do you do cardio or weights?"
Disagreeing response: "I can stuff myself with pizza and chips and never gain any weight."

4. "I'm cleaning my room."
Agreeing response: "I gotta do that too, ha ha, thanks for reminding me!"
Disagreeing response: "My mom cleans my room for me." -or- "I like my room being messy."

You don't have to lie or be dishonest, but just avoid saying the opposite of what the other person is doing or saying. This will help the other person to feel more friendly towards you, and to accept you. When you say something that disagrees with what they're saying, they will subconsciously feel you criticized them, and they will subconsciously begin to reject you without even realizing why.

This is a sales and negotiation technique in which you subtly affirm the other person's ideas and choices, in order to build rapport with them.



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09 Jun 2011, 3:18 pm

MollyTroubletail wrote:
I wouldn't go bragging that you get good grades without studying, to a person who is obviously studying hard. A person with good study habits may feel that you are a lazy person, or that you are too arrogant about your intelligence.

In general, whenever a person says they're doing something (studying, walking the dog, going to the gym, cleaning their room, or whatever), your best response is to agree with what they're doing.

For example,

1. "I'm studying for finals."
Agreeing response: "Yeah, I need to study more myself, especially math." -or- "I'm gonna have to cram an all-nighter."
Disagreeing response: "I don't even need to study to get good grades."

2. "I'm walking the dog."
Agreeing response: "Cool what kinda dog? What's her name?"
Disagreeing response: "I don't like dogs, I'm allergic."

3. "I'm going to work out at the gym."
Agreeing response: "Hey I noticed you've been looking really good lately. Do you do cardio or weights?"
Disagreeing response: "I can stuff myself with pizza and chips and never gain any weight."

4. "I'm cleaning my room."
Agreeing response: "I gotta do that too, ha ha, thanks for reminding me!"
Disagreeing response: "My mom cleans my room for me." -or- "I like my room being messy."

You don't have to lie or be dishonest, but just avoid saying the opposite of what the other person is doing or saying. This will help the other person to feel more friendly towards you, and to accept you. When you say something that disagrees with what they're saying, they will subconsciously feel you criticized them, and they will subconsciously begin to reject you without even realizing why.

This is a sales and negotiation technique in which you subtly affirm the other person's ideas and choices, in order to build rapport with them.

That makes sense. It's not like I was trying to come across as arrogant. The way I meant for it to sound was more like, "I don't study much, but it's not like I'm a genius and I'll get A's without studying, I'll just do decent and get maybe C's or B's if I'm lucky." Jeez, I hope she doesn't feel too criticized, that was never my intention.

Thanks for the advice, It'll definitely be helpful for next time.

@MarketAndChurch- We talk every once in a while. We're not really close or anything, but we talk occasionally.



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09 Jun 2011, 4:18 pm

Arrogant.



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09 Jun 2011, 4:23 pm

i don't have the heart to go into a deep analysis of that.

you did well at making conversation:)



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09 Jun 2011, 4:32 pm

The_Postmaster wrote:
MollyTroubletail wrote:
I wouldn't go bragging that you get good grades without studying, to a person who is obviously studying hard. A person with good study habits may feel that you are a lazy person, or that you are too arrogant about your intelligence.

In general, whenever a person says they're doing something (studying, walking the dog, going to the gym, cleaning their room, or whatever), your best response is to agree with what they're doing.

For example,

1. "I'm studying for finals."
Agreeing response: "Yeah, I need to study more myself, especially math." -or- "I'm gonna have to cram an all-nighter."
Disagreeing response: "I don't even need to study to get good grades."

2. "I'm walking the dog."
Agreeing response: "Cool what kinda dog? What's her name?"
Disagreeing response: "I don't like dogs, I'm allergic."

3. "I'm going to work out at the gym."
Agreeing response: "Hey I noticed you've been looking really good lately. Do you do cardio or weights?"
Disagreeing response: "I can stuff myself with pizza and chips and never gain any weight."

4. "I'm cleaning my room."
Agreeing response: "I gotta do that too, ha ha, thanks for reminding me!"
Disagreeing response: "My mom cleans my room for me." -or- "I like my room being messy."

You don't have to lie or be dishonest, but just avoid saying the opposite of what the other person is doing or saying. This will help the other person to feel more friendly towards you, and to accept you. When you say something that disagrees with what they're saying, they will subconsciously feel you criticized them, and they will subconsciously begin to reject you without even realizing why.

This is a sales and negotiation technique in which you subtly affirm the other person's ideas and choices, in order to build rapport with them.

That makes sense. It's not like I was trying to come across as arrogant. The way I meant for it to sound was more like, "I don't study much, but it's not like I'm a genius and I'll get A's without studying, I'll just do decent and get maybe C's or B's if I'm lucky." Jeez, I hope she doesn't feel too criticized, that was never my intention.

Thanks for the advice, It'll definitely be helpful for next time.

@MarketAndChurch- We talk every once in a while. We're not really close or anything, but we talk occasionally.


Well I only asked those questions because I too had a similar response as Molly did but I didn't want to assume.

Postmaster, I think it would've helped you extend the conversation had you not been so focused on your awesomeness or being too interested in uninteresting things like her studies(unless you know her to be the type whose passionate about school and the subject she's in). I know this wasn't your intention at all, but it came off that way because only people who don't care at all about their grades or are brainiacs don't care.

Getting a reply is not the same as emotional or attraction-based compliance, and reading her replies, it felt more like a Q&A then an actual conversation built on interest(of the other or the subject your talking about).

Keep it light and playful and the option to find the emotional center of the conversation is always there as well so you have a lot of tools and directions to take the conversation in - just don't get bogged down on the minutia details unless you both actually share that interest.


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09 Jun 2011, 10:17 pm

You're the man.