the real meaning of love is lust

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is what ive said true or false?
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13 Aug 2006, 5:38 am

there is no such thing as "true" love ,LOVE these days if LUST not LOVE, the truth there you have it... :x :evil: :x :evil: :x



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13 Aug 2006, 6:18 am

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Well, there are lots of different kinds of love, and lust is one of them. Similar to lust is that feeling that your beloved is just the most wonderful person in the world. This feeling will fade and you will either break up or experience a more mature variety of love where you accept the person as they really are. Then there’s love as an action, expressed in “What can I do for you?” Love for a child is sometimes expressed with a spanking. Love for humanity can be expressed as physician working pro bono, or a medical researcher trying to find a cure for polio or aids. Love of god is a more esoteric variety of love of humanity, this might be expressed publicly as setting a better example, or privately as prayer for the welfare of others, regardless of worthiness.

If love were nothing more than lust, I doubt humanity would have produced the volumes of literature on the topic that we have. It’s good to be alive now and have the benefit of all that collected wisdom.

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13 Aug 2006, 7:06 am

Love, lust, crush...... It's so confusing to me. You start mistaking one for the other and then you realise you have no idea what any of it is supposed to mean. Since people who are in 'love' decide to get married, but so many times these days people get devorced just as fast as they got married, then maybe they were actually in lust, not love?

I think it is supposed to be:

-a CRUSH is usually when you have really giddy exciting feelings for someone but it may be alot on looks because you can have a crush on someone you know NOTHING about but you think is really cute. These come and go easily, and may not last very long.

-LUST I am not really sure about. I always thought it was another word for 'passion'. People in lust enjoy MAKING LOVE. They make each other HOT, but I don't think there is necessarily any emotional attachments there.

-LOVE is..... Hmmm.... Well I am guessing it is like a combination of crush and lust, in where at first its exciting, and sex is totally appealing and lasting and more meaningful, but true love is a lasting one. It might lose its initial 'WOW! This person FREAKIN ROCKS EVERYTHING!' feeling, but after you are accustomed to the persons pros and cons, you still feel like no one understands you and appreciates you better and you wouldn't want to be with anyone else.


But to be honest, I'm not really sure I WANT love because I want that passion, that excitement, that feeling of placing the person on a pedestal to LAST always.... I mean if you REALLY love someone, you won't take them for granted and they should never lose their appeal and romance to you. the problem is, once you are married, some people don't try anymore. For instance, the wife lets her looks go or something, wears less makeup, more lazy clothing, because shes not like 'on a night on the town looking for guys' or something. But then the poor guy is like 'whats THIS? So suddenly I'm not good enough for her to make herself look presentable? This was just a ploy to real me in?' Hah. But ALSO, at this point, looks aren't so important as personality is, but you still want to turn each other on too. Like, sex is probably important to the overall emotional and spiritual connection, as well as physical affections. It should ALL be there in love.

Well, I guess it is similar to becoming friends with a celebrity lets say. At first it is like OMG and you can't talk and you're nervous and its freaking *insert famous name here*! But then, what if you get close ya know, and become chums, then, after each visit, you start getting more comfortable around him and then the excitement dies down and you are able to just be normal around him. Now for a celeb friend that would be perfect.

But for a lover..... I think the damn movies, novels and videogames all the time make us YEARN for that 'happily ever after' kind of ideal romance love. Some of us geekier people, some of us more kind and gullible ones, we might live in fantasy a little too often and lose track of reality and then when we date, we are like 'what the hell is THIS?'. So..... I guess some of us (myself included) need to come out of the cave a little more often and explore real life and real love and see if its all its cracked up to be or not.


Hahah.... It's funny how I sound so wise here and yet I've like had ONE boyfriend for 6 weeks, if he even counts cause I never met him in person. But I've had feelings for lots of different people I could never have. I would have to say the current guy I am very VERY serious about. I don't want to call it just crush or lust cause that sounds too mild. I think love is more accurate. But that all depends if LOVE can only happen between TWO people. As in, 'in love WITH' someone, sharing it together IS love. It's shared? Can I not be 'in love at' 'in love for' 'in love towards' someone? Because..... I know I care about him intensely in all the right ways and I would be so loyal and compassionate like you have never seen in your life. All for him.

Ofcourse I can never be with him so I best not dwell on this too much before my heart starts breaking again. :(

Why are feelings so illogical anyway? How come it is possible to want someone you know you can't be with? I think it is because your brain and heart are two different organs :P


(Please forgive the long post. But if even ONE person just read and appreciated what I just posted than it was not in vain)



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13 Aug 2006, 7:23 am

Lust often masquerades as love? Certainly.
Love between partners often features lust? Certainly.

That there's confusion as to where the borders of care, affection, dependency, love and lust lie, (assuming even that they don't overlap)? Certainly.

But that it's a safe simplication to see love as lust? No.

Consider it a possibility when a boy professes love for a girl? Yes.
(OK, that makes it a bit of a sad world, but anything else is naive)

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13 Aug 2006, 8:02 am

No, I like women who are a little shy, but affectionate as well.

That does not mean someone has to have sex to love someone else.


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13 Aug 2006, 3:13 pm

Love and lust are two different things. Lusting some one is like having sex with this person in your mind and doing all you want to with this person in your mind. Lust is another way of saying you own this person already and that this person is your item in your mind. Like and love are the same. Like is that you are mildly into this person. Like starts out when you see someone in the corner of your eye and you say hey I think I know this person. Soon friendship with this guy and girl begins. Like slowly turns into Love and that is love that you want to do anything for this person that you don't want this person to leave you.


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13 Aug 2006, 3:14 pm

Absolutely!

The meanings of those three words are all very much alike, but at the same time totally different.


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13 Aug 2006, 10:24 pm

I don't think so.
I have people who I love, but don't lust after.


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14 Aug 2006, 2:19 pm

While it is certainly true that lust plays a much, much larger role in relations between males and females than it has in the past, love does still exist. You just have to look harder to find good examples of it. There are still marriages that work, even if there are far fewer now than 50 years ago.

That being said, love at a romantic level does involve a certain amount of attraction, no matter what. We as humans are naturally going to feel attraction for others; it is how we act on it that matters.



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14 Aug 2006, 11:30 pm

I completley disagree.

There are lots of types of love, and love between a man and a woman can be so strong that lust doesn't even come into it anymore.



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15 Aug 2006, 12:32 am

So someone tell me what love is.
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15 Aug 2006, 11:11 am

Does it really matter? I mean what's the point of it all? A brief moment of pleasure, then what?

Yeah, I'm on a down cycle right now. Even I can't stay on a happy/funny mode forever.


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15 Aug 2006, 2:54 pm

I disagree. Lust is much more of an obsessive sexual thing. Love's more complicated, more romantic.

Love seems to be the single most underestimated thing in the world. People say they love one another when they don't even KNOW each other! To me, "true love" exists only as an expression. I don’t think it's something dumb like fate or anything, even if you meet someone who's just perfect for you. I think that "true love" works as an expression when you’d do anything for a person (yeah, including that whole "sacrifice your life to save theirs" cliché), and absolutely love everything about the person, even if you disagree with them. So say you love a movie and your love hates it...well, you love that they hate it, or at least you aren't bothered by the fact that they hate it. It's not that you have no problems with them, but you can make exceptions for them because they're so special to you. Of course there's always gonna be arguements and some hard feelings between any couples eventually, that's inevitable, but when two people can forgive each other for it all and just come together, not needing anything but one another...it's those moments, you know? You find your differences cute, and you have those romantic moments where despite them all you need to be happy is one another. Love is when you rise above yourself and your problems because of someone else, and them doing the same.

The problem is that everybody assumes that "mask love" is true love. "Mask love" is when you love the mask somebody wears in public, their false persona, the person they try to be for everyone else, and the person they always forget to be in their private moments with their family, when they're angry and overwhelmed. And that's why so many people get divorced, or have unhappy marriages. And some people are stuck with the belief of no premarital sex, so they get married just so they can have sex with someone, which is just horrible.

It's like...when two people truly love one another's faces, rather than their masks (and I'm talking about their personality faces), that's something special. That's love...and it's a rare thing indeed.



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16 Aug 2006, 12:12 am

I'll be honest, I have no idea what keeps people together. I cannot say that I love my family, because I don't. I only treat them well because, if I don't, they will think I am a jerk. The only great love I have is for myself. I need no other companions.



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17 Aug 2006, 3:45 pm

FALSE!! !! !!

There is a whole community that dispoves this: AVEN! http://www.asexuality.org

I am a member and many people on there would agree with me that love is NOT lust.



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17 Aug 2006, 4:44 pm

I do not believe in love as a supernatural or destined thing. I do, however, believe that love is simply a deep level of emotional intimacy and trust. In romantic "love", I think lust is definatly a factor, but it is enhanced by intimacy and closeness. I believe this element to seperate the acts of making love and having sex.