How often do you see an "ugly" person

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I mean someone who is just flat-out hideous, and NOT because of hygiene, facial hair, clothes. This goes for guys as well as girls. I mean a Repulsive face by default. A complete untouchable.

??? I almost never do.

The problem is though what HALF? of Americans are overweight 1/3 are obese? Im not sure about those statistics, but if you live in America, walk around town and you will see. Not meant as a slight to here if anyone is overweight.

My point is just that I think most people can be attractive, as long as they are relatively in shape and dress decent.

And how can that many Americans have "thyroid" or glandular issues? It is an excuse If you look at other countries there is NO way anywhere near the amount of overweight people. Its in the food here obviously

Whenever I go anywhere it seems, there is rarely any attractive girls that I would ever consider working up the nerve to approach.

When I went to the school gym, there were some total babes there. I got really nervous around them. Then I am thinking though they aren't by any means "hot", as in guys would drools over them. They weren't Megan Fox or any other actress types. I just found them to be extremely attractive, because they are in shape, which seems like a rarity.

I probably look like an as*hole for this post, and I don't mean to rub in anyone if they have weight problems.

I just wanted to say I think I find most girls who are relatively in shape to be attractive naturally, no makeup.

I do think it is a slight that the guys here get pegged as having "too high standards" and visual creatures. I think we are, but only to a certain extent. when I just out and about in public, it is very rare that I see a girl my age that I find attractive, who isn't with her boyfriend. I mostly just see overweight people. Hey I am just calling it like it is.

I am extremely attracted to just average in shape girls. If I was an NT guy on the 1-10 scale it would be 6s and 7s.

I am actually turned off by 9s and 10s, because they probably have an attitude, and only go for nt guys

But the 6s and 7s are actually 9s in my mind if they have a good personality and are in shape. If this all makes sense.

I am not overweight myself, so I don't think this an unrealistic expectation. I just want an average cute girl in the looks department, as long as she has a good personality. I am not looking for that exotic girl or a megan fox. Im just saying looks aren't super important to me lol, just that alot of girls aren't what I wouldn't consider attractive ONLY because of weight issues.

I know this will make me come across as a highly misogynistic as*hole, and the girls here certainly will hate me, sorry. I am just expressing my opinion. Anybody feel to comment if you live in a non obese nation.

I'm not sure I ever have, TBH.

To me, weight is a personal thing. If I want to barrel my barrel chested way though life looking like Mick Avory, I can.

I don't like flat, bone thin people, but I've never seen anyone that makes me turn away for natural reasons. I just don't like bone thin sexualy. If someone poorly grooms, is bone thin, and deliberatly wears his pants below the belt, then I will be turned off.

I have.
But I can't exactly talk, I'm no Megan Fox myself.

Weight in my opinion is nothing to do with looking "ugly" some obese people have absolutely stunning faces, and if they lost weight they would be up there with the "hottest babes" on earth, and anyway even if a person looks "ugly" they can still be a hell of a lot less ugly than some normal looking people with hideous personalities.

Everytime I look into the mirror...

What about a tightly-groomed obese guy? Would they beat out a bone-skiny baggy pants guy?

I thought this thread would be about beauty rather than a diatribe against fat people.

^ Then contribute something useful.

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Ladies, you know my feelings about every one of you...

I think it's less about literal amount of weight and more about health. We are attracted to people who look healthy (eg. clear skin, shiny hair, appropriate amount of weight for body type). For me attraction has very little to do with looks, but if I could say what I found attractive physically it would be guys who are healthy - which in terms of weight means a healthy weight for their body type, give or take a little.

I think some "overweight" people appear to be very attractive, because the weight just looks "right" on them with their body shape.

The point I was saying was that Yes looks matter, and we live in a very unhealthy country. I just wish more people cared about their appearance enough to lose or even gain weight if need be.

Im not prize either obviously since I am spending my time online posting on here, but im no lardass either, I could improve my posture and definitely gain some more muscle weight, which is what I am trying to do since I am going to the gym.

I didn't mean it that fat people = bad. I know that is how it came out, but I didn't know how to say how I was feeling without being so blunt that that is how it came across

As a straight guy in America it is just kind of painful trying to find a quality girl that isn't already taken, and there are tons of other guys competing at the same time for that small percentage of girls, and I am not talking about knockouts either

I have seen some gorgeous girl that were considerably overweight. But I think most average girls just don't look too good considerably overweight, enough that I wouldn't be attracted to them in the least. If they lost some weight, then hey the dating pool just got bigger......

In case anyone was wondering, I am 6" and 177 lbs. Kind of skinny. If I was over 200 with no muscles, I wouldn't have made this post...would have been hypocritical

I am less concerned about appearance and attractiveness, and more concerned about physical and mental health that is being put at risk by the growing obesity epidemic across the western countries.

I don't think in most cases people are to blame for their weight problems - few people would choose to be overweight. I think the biggest contributing factor is diet and lifestyle. The sort of food available for people to eat is increasingly fattening, and portion sizes are increasingly larger. Knowing when to stop eating has been found to be driven by external and not internal factors - thus people would constantly overeat simply due to portion sizing. Also, evolutionarily speaking, humans have evolved to eat as much high energy foods as possible whenever they can get them - which is extremely adaptive for survival in a hunter gatherer lifestyle, but unfortunately extremely adaptive for weight gain in a modern society.

Anyway, I may be going off topic a little here. I understand your concern to be legitimate but politically incorrect to discuss, which is difficult. I am fortunate in that I am attracted to the brain over the body, so physical appearance means very little to me, except in very extreme cases of unhealthiness I guess.

Dammit, someone beat me to it.

I think people have to consider this.



You appearance isn't something to be shaped and moulded at will like a lump of clay. Willpower when faced with a pleasure and indulgence (in this case food) is very hard to beat for some people. Because someone struggles to lose weight, it doesn't mean they don't "care about their appearance". They probably actually care more than people without weight problems.



Well what business do you have critisising fat people who, little do you know, might be trying things like drastic dieting etc? Just because someone's fat does not mean they don't try. You act like being fat is the worst thing in the world. I would rather have someone overweight than someone with bad posture. Each to their own and there's someone for everyone.



After America, New Zealand is the second fattest nation. And I can tell you there are PLENTY of average sized and underweight people here to choose from. If you want skinny, you'll need to work on making yourself a better catch for the women available to you.

And a "quality" girl? Excuse me? You're behaving like women are something on the supermarket shelf. I know you're not trying to be nasty, but just a heads up, that post makes you sound really shallow and like fat people are the "rotten fruit" of society.