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subatai_baadur
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14 Sep 2006, 6:10 pm

Well, I fell in love with this girl, and I was going to tell her as much today. But I'm also starting a film club, and I got in a major political fight over it. I asked her to help me, simple as that. Figured she would say yes, because she agrees with me as far as the fight and she is supposed to be my friend at least. And she said no because she was afraid to get in trouble and rock the boat. I can't believe it. Cannot believe it. Nothing but a hypocrit and a p****. This is why I stopped trusting people. Stupid f*****g race of people inhabit this earth.


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14 Sep 2006, 6:37 pm

Forgive me if I seem uninformed, but don't you think you're overreacting? The girl that you're supposedly in love with refused to help you with a political fight about a film club and this makes her a hypocrite and a p****? Even if you feel that she ought to be willing to help you, I don't think you're making matters any better by taking such a negative view of things.

I really suggest you try thinking about it rationally, and ask yourself whether or not she has really done anything to be worthy of the names that you called her, and whether or not the human race is indeed worthy of such insults because of this experiece.



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14 Sep 2006, 6:44 pm

The human race has been a target of disdain long before this, but the point was that she betrayed me. I don't ask for a whole lot from a girl, but there are only two things I want in a relationship, with a third nearly vital. I want to be able to trust an intelligent woman. That's all I ask for in a relationship. And I can't get this from anyone apparently. She wouldn't trust me, and I can't trust her. Unexcusable.


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14 Sep 2006, 7:16 pm

Get a grip. This isn't about trust. It's about you wanting her to do something she didn't want to do. If you can't accept that, then you aren't yet prepared to interact with real, live humans. For the time being, stick to dolls and computer simulations that you can exert God-like control over.



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14 Sep 2006, 7:39 pm

Ok, so she supported what I was doing but would not herself stand by and do it with me. I hate people who attach themselves to slogans and are willing to say everything, but when it comes down to it, they're no different. I don't expect her to do everything I want her to, but I expect a reason better than, "I don't like it, but you go do it. I fully support everything, but am too lazy and cowardly to do it myself." Irritating f*****g hypocrites.


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15 Sep 2006, 1:57 am

subatai_baadur wrote:
Well, I fell in love with this girl, and I was going to tell her as much today. But I'm also starting a film club, and I got in a major political fight over it. I asked her to help me, simple as that. Figured she would say yes, because she agrees with me as far as the fight and she is supposed to be my friend at least. And she said no because she was afraid to get in trouble and rock the boat. I can't believe it. Cannot believe it. Nothing but a hypocrit and a p****. This is why I stopped trusting people. Stupid f*** race of people inhabit this earth.


Grow up. So you fell in love with this girl, and now she's obligated to do everything you want her to do? I don't think so. She has her own values and beliefs and if she wants to do her own thing, that's her business. You can't control everything about people; how would you like it if the tables were turned and it was her wanting you to do something you didn't want to do?



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15 Sep 2006, 6:50 am

I have to agree with the other posters here. Without even hearing her side of the story, you sound quite unreasonable. It also sounds like you do not understand what trust is. You seem to think that just because someone does not want to do something that you want to do, therefore there is a lack of trust -- that does not make sense.



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15 Sep 2006, 1:45 pm

Written in anger, please ignore. I'm still pissed about it and think she should have gone with me, but regardless. Damnit I hate apologizing.


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15 Sep 2006, 6:07 pm

I personally hate fence sitters, they seem really gutless.

Unless she disagrees with you, I don't really see any excuse why she couldn't help. If one of my friends did that to me, I don't know if I would bother with them much anymore.

The worst kind of fence sitters though are the ones that don't stick up for personal sh*t people say about friends in fear of "rocking the boat".

I don't see what this thread has to do with love and dating though, the fact that you love her has nothing to do with the argument.. or it shouldn't.



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15 Sep 2006, 6:33 pm

It's just that I feel betrayed is all, and I was in love with her so it just accentuated things. It could have gone elsewhere, but I would have had to tune it more as an anti-people rant, and I've done those to death.


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15 Sep 2006, 9:09 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
I personally hate fence sitters, they seem really gutless.


She is not a fence sitter. A fence sitter is someone who doesn't or refuses to choose a side. However she DID choose a side. As he said: "she agrees with me as far as the fight"

As for gutless, maybe she is lacking in courage somewhat, but this does NOT justify calling her a stupid untrustworthy hypocrite.



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17 Sep 2006, 9:43 am

And I believe you, sir.


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17 Sep 2006, 12:04 pm

I agree with the thread maker, but then again, I'm a litigious troublemaker and hotspur. 8)


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17 Sep 2006, 7:07 pm

Could it be you are obsessing about the film club and she just doesn't see it as a "big deal"?


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18 Sep 2006, 1:38 pm

BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
Could it be you are obsessing about the film club and she just doesn't see it as a "big deal"?

It is a big deal, and she should see this. If she doesn't, then the world has obviously lost all track of its values.


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18 Sep 2006, 10:44 pm

I agree with subatai_baadur. It is both hypocritical and cowardly to believe in something and not do anything to stand up for that belief because of not wanting to "rock the boat". I think it's better to rock the boat and upset people occasionally than to risk a lifetime of people walking all over you because you just went along with whatever everyone esle said and did. I also believe that it is a despicable act to refuse to help a friend WHO YOU AGREE with because you are afraid of problems within a group. Individuals and friendships are more important than having a facade of a happy, agreeable group. If I was in this situation I would feel betrayed and be furious

If I may ask, what is this film club about? What is the fight over? Why is this so important?


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