David DeAngelo

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I was wondering if anyone here has read David DeAngelo's book Double Your Dating and/or reads his emails and watches his programs. I found is information to be very invaluable and I definitely recommend checking his stuff out.

That sort of thing doesn't work. It helps, but it doesn't give you all the answers. Even if it had all the answers, without going out and about it can't be practiced. It's similar to medication in that sense.

Besides, the goal for most of us is to understand the interactions, not to pick up chicks.

I used to subscribe to DeAngelo's e-mail newsletter back in 2002, and even bought his Double Your Dating e-book once. The newsletters were crap, and the e-book was only marginally better. He goes on and on for many pages telling you what you need to do, with his signature act being "cocky and funny". But he doesn't spend even a paragraph telling you how to do it. So I tried it by guesswork; it was a hit or miss. One girl responded well; dozens of others responded neutrally or poorly. (At least they didn't call me a creep, so maybe I should give the author credit for that.)

Important caveat: DeAngelo constantly promotes his e-book in the newsletters, telling you that it has much more information. Guess what? It doesn't! It pretty much rehashes the information in the newsletters, only in a more orderly manner. You will not find out how to be cocky and funny if you buy the e-book, only the importance of it. There are ways to get it for free, but I can't tell you where or how; the author has disclaimer threatening to have his attorney contact you if he catches you copying or sharing the e-book.

And on a side note, if the number of dates I had is zero, doubling my dating won't help .

There's a lot out there that is just written for other people.

You will get just as much help by reading TuckerMax.com

I think I first read it back in 2006 or 2007? My outlook was that it pretty much nailed everything I saw my friends doing and getting good responses on already, with the addition of a lot of the guys I'd run into who could get a favorable reaction. Where I think it failed me, and probably a lot of other people here - it tells you how to play the 'generic' game, ie. how to pick up anyone and that usually just says you're out for a romp, if you want something lasting you really can't go about it that way.

Its not to say that the advice on being semi-sarcastic, witty, and keeping her on level rather than on a pedastle isn't important at all levels, however I think any one person's ultimate success really depends on who they are and who they match up with when and if their game is on standby. That means that yes, most people who are really out to score will be able to take this stuff and be the part, act the part, and feel right at the other end because their actions and demeanor are congruent to their objectives. If you're slow burn or looking for something more stable though it seems like almost everything aside from 'don't put her on a pedastle' goes out the window and, aside from just polishing 'you' you for what you can for confidence and lustor there's really not much else that can be done. Similarly, if you weren't likely to find someone before all of that work yes, you'll have a better life shined-up but you'll still have little more than a marginal increase in your odds. Its a different game and one where things don't work as much like commodity.

Duh, just look at him.



He's very handsome (no homo), that only indicates that things that work with him wouldn't work with everyone.

Seeing him on videos though I did get why he initially had trouble. He's about as facially expressive as a brick wall. It takes very specific tweaking to make that work 'for' you. I also believe him when he says that cocky funny changed things for him, ie. its one of the few things that may even work better if your face barely moves; otherwise if he was straight serious he'd be one of the blandest guys in the room.

The thing I might add about him though, one of my friends who had subscribed to his articles finally had to comment and note that while Dave has had all these books and articles as well as supposedly advancing technology of what he's learning, as far as he saw it the guy still hasn't found a way to make anything stick long term. I'd likely suppose he's coming to realize that for as much junkfood as he can dredge up that his initial quest to get his singlehood in check and under his control not only didn't come to fruition but that he may still be as helpless as anyone else out there to solve that one. Someone might have to ask him one of these day what it tastes like to be eating his own victories and milestones .

A handsome guy with a manly face yet poorly expressive = seen as confident by most.

An non handome guy with a not much manly face and poorly expressive = seen as not confident / shy by most.

No, I fully agree that 'who' you look like you should be on first glance is a huge unchangeable factor in both how a person will be received but also how their whole psyche and way of doing things is shaped.

I think in this case though, before he became more outgoing, I've known a lot of guys who looked like him who were quite mediocre, particularly quiet. You can either look strong and confident or, alternately, you can also have people percieve you as a putz if you don't seem sharp-edged or witty enough.

If you take a few bits and pieces of advice from him, without compromising who you are, you might learn a thing or two about confidence and attraction.

If you take everything he says, and practice it word-for-word, you will be an as*hole.

Just remember, it's one man's point of view. It will not work for everyone, and it will not work ON everyone.

And even when it does work, you have to ask yourself morally, is it the right thing to do?

If it works yes then it's the right thing to do, no one would give s**t about you when you die virgin at 90 while being morally ideal in your life, you won't be rewarded, but you might be rewarded if his way works and you use it.

But again, like you said, it doesn't work for everyone.