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LePetitPrince
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27 Aug 2006, 7:41 am

Why many consider adult virgins as losers?



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27 Aug 2006, 7:55 am

Personally, I don't live in a world populated by "winner & losers." I prefer to live in a world populated by "the lost & the found." When my wife left me I felt lost. When I discovered WP I felt found again.

Therefore having and not having arise together.
Difficult and easy compliment each other.
Long and short contrast each other;
High and low rest upon each other;
Voice and sound harmonize each other;
Front and back follow one another.
-Tao Te Ching 2:2

And lost and found follow one another. I'm sure in the future I'll feel lost again, then found, and on and on, until I learn to stop diatinguishing between the two.


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27 Aug 2006, 8:07 am

I'm not a virgin, I even lost my "virginity" before I knew about AS. If I look back, I can't say that I was a loser then, just angry and desperate.



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27 Aug 2006, 8:18 am

Because many treat sex as a competitive sport,
up to and including always looking for a chance to "score"?



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27 Aug 2006, 8:48 am

I've been told 3 things make you a loser.

1) Live with parent(s)
2) No Car
3) No Job

So I'm a loser right now! :) I've had a job and a car and enough money to buy
a cheap house(though I live with my mom). Not a virgin but that does not make
one a loser. Being a loser may make you a virgin.



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27 Aug 2006, 9:03 am

no adult virgins arent losers..............there is no reason to think this .
its not a race or a competition.
it is somethign that kids these days dont really seem to hold sacred anymore.



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27 Aug 2006, 9:39 am

I wouldn't say all that. I can understand why having your virginity, your said to be a loser, but really, there is nothing wrong with that. Its not so much that it is a competition to lose it, as your seen as something wrong with you if you cannot attract the opposite sex (for men anyway, dunno about women). Anyway, after you lose it, you find out its not all its cracked up to be and its a lot easier than you previously thought.



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27 Aug 2006, 10:07 am

^^ well I agree any teen can pay 10$ to a slut and bang her ...it s not that hard.
But back to my question....



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27 Aug 2006, 10:22 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
Why many consider adult virgins as losers?


Because of all the traces of primate group behaviour in our gene pool. Which is why the most muscular ape who can mount the most females is the leader of the pack, and the skinnier, less dominant apes subsist on whatever banana peels are thrown their way. That's why many consider adult virgins as losers. It's all about the cursed group dominance hierarchy straight from the palaeolithic savannah to the schoolyard and the workplace and the football team.

It's also why you or anyone else shouldn't give a loss what many consider adult virgins to be.


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27 Aug 2006, 10:37 am

I just love evolutionary explanations of things because they make so much sence - thanks :lol:

I'm asexual and 32 yoa - and I've been asexual all my life - I can't figure out what it is I'm supposed to be missing . . . I have so much more time to read and do my art than other people . . .



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27 Aug 2006, 11:00 am

evolutionary explanations work for animals who have adapted to their environment, not necessarily for humans who have adapted their environment to suit them.



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27 Aug 2006, 11:17 am

donkey wrote:
evolutionary explanations work for animals who have adapted to their environment, not necessarily for humans who have adapted their environment to suit them.


I agree - but it's not an "either-or" thing. We may now be humans who modify our environment to our needs - but we haven't always been, and the slate didn't get somehow wiped clean when we did. We are still dealing with the detritus of all those millions of years before.

My "explanation" was half-facetious of course. Though I think the explanation for behaviour like the one mentioned by the OP does lie somewhere in this direction.


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27 Aug 2006, 11:21 am

I'm finally going to get castrated chemically soon. I'm soo looking forward to it! No staring at women's bodies and no porn addiction!



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27 Aug 2006, 11:31 am

MrMark wrote:
Personally, I don't live in a world populated by "winner & losers." I prefer to live in a world populated by "the lost & the found."
what a great way to live your life. i personally don't care if people know im a virgin. to some extent i think that makes women want me more (even though no ones actually showed intrest in me) haha



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27 Aug 2006, 11:38 am

Orvaskesi wrote:
donkey wrote:
evolutionary explanations work for animals who have adapted to their environment, not necessarily for humans who have adapted their environment to suit them.


I agree - but it's not an "either-or" thing. We may now be humans who modify our environment to our needs - but we haven't always been, and the slate didn't get somehow wiped clean when we did. We are still dealing with the detritus of all those millions of years before.

My "explanation" was half-facetious of course. Though I think the explanation for behaviour like the one mentioned by the OP does lie somewhere in this direction.


yeah ok..it does...but as a society, we tend to try and stray away from animal instincts and adult virgins can be seen as role models to aspire too, not necessarily losers...but as the raw animal pre-human explanation..it is the dominant guy who gets the most chicks true. but these dominant animals spend so much time fighting off other males that the quick smart ones can run in there and get a quickie in before anyone knows.
did someone mention 10$ for a hooker?
where is this at?..and is this a student discount.....im curius to know where it is to tell my virgin uncultured friends off course.



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27 Aug 2006, 1:01 pm

It's a matter of social status.

I think it's worse for women, old maids are considered without the ability to love and care for anyone. You have not made love to anyone, and have no children, how can you love, they ask.
It's not true of course.