Why do women think bad luck just doesn't happen?

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29 Sep 2013, 4:51 pm

Fnord wrote:

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No, because if - as you say - "all women suck", there is no point in a man dating a man. [...]

I'm not sure I follow this point.

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29 Sep 2013, 6:01 pm

Fnord wrote:

LeLetch wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

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I actually do fit the mold of their ideal boyfriend...

Evidence, please? If you were "Ideal", then you'd be a boyfriend to one of them.

...because women only care about the success a man has, not who the man is, or what he does.

Thus, by your reasoning, "Success" is part of the ideation, and a man could not be any woman's "ideal man" by virtue of being unsuccessful.

Hold on Fnord. All women suck. Wouldn't better advice be... a Man?

No, because if - as you say - "all women suck", there is no point in a man dating a man.

In my opinion, the OP seems to (1) have an exaggerated opinion of his attractiveness, (2) believe he knows what all women want, and (3) believe that he will never be "good enough" to meet a woman's standards of an ideal man.

In other words, he refuses to look to himself for any reason as to why he can not attract a woman.

Another idiot with no real world experience. If you think getting a girlfriend is so simple, why don't you get out and look for one!

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29 Sep 2013, 6:05 pm

Aaendi wrote:

Fnord wrote:

LeLetch wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

I actually do fit the mold of their ideal boyfriend...

Evidence, please? If you were "Ideal", then you'd be a boyfriend to one of them.

...because women only care about the success a man has, not who the man is, or what he does.

Thus, by your reasoning, "Success" is part of the ideation, and a man could not be any woman's "ideal man" by virtue of being unsuccessful.

Hold on Fnord. All women suck. Wouldn't better advice be... a Man?

Another idiot with no real world experience. If you think getting a girlfriend is so simple, why don't you get out and look for one!

lol? I'm pretty sure hes married...

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29 Sep 2013, 7:23 pm

I'm pretty sure he's not.

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29 Sep 2013, 7:31 pm

Aaendi wrote:

TM1337FalconPunch wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

Fnord wrote:

LeLetch wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

I actually do fit the mold of their ideal boyfriend...

Evidence, please? If you were "Ideal", then you'd be a boyfriend to one of them.

...because women only care about the success a man has, not who the man is, or what he does.

Thus, by your reasoning, "Success" is part of the ideation, and a man could not be any woman's "ideal man" by virtue of being unsuccessful.

Hold on Fnord. All women suck. Wouldn't better advice be... a Man?

No, because if - as you say - "all women suck", there is no point in a man dating a man. In my opinion, the OP seems to (1) have an exaggerated opinion of his attractiveness, (2) believe he knows what all women want, and (3) believe that he will never be "good enough" to meet a woman's standards of an ideal man. In other words, he refuses to look to himself for any reason as to why he can not attract a woman.

Another idiot with no real world experience. If you think getting a girlfriend is so simple, why don't you get out and look for one!

lol? I'm pretty sure hes married...

I'm pretty sure he's not.

I am married, and have been for nearly a quarter-century.

Any more ignorant assumptions? :roll:

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29 Sep 2013, 8:09 pm

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I am married, and have been for nearly a quarter-century.

Any more ignorant assumptions? :roll:

I'm now officially devastated.

All the good ones are taken!

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29 Sep 2013, 8:43 pm

Kezzstar wrote:

Fnord wrote:

I am married, and have been for nearly a quarter-century.

Any more ignorant assumptions? :roll:

I'm now officially devastated.

All the good ones are taken!

I am wounded :‘(

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29 Sep 2013, 8:55 pm

Well... this thread made me laugh.

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29 Sep 2013, 9:04 pm

One thing I've learnt is that Aspie or not, if you can make peeps laugh, they'll love you.

Plus if you get involved in the community some way, like me with the footy team (I'm currently in the middle of sewing up new banners for the cheersquad - compared to other teams we don't have much in the way of banners) then people let a lot of things slide.

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29 Sep 2013, 9:08 pm

It's also good for the community. Helps things go smoother, gives you something to do, and you're more likely to be informed about what's going on in your neck of the woods.

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29 Sep 2013, 9:46 pm

Aaendi wrote:

I mean, if a girl finds out that I never been on a date, don't have an active social life, a wall of trophies, or a high paying job, its my fault, my fault, my fault. Sure there is no luck involved. If you were born to poor parents, you deserve it for "having no self esteem." If I don't make the basketball team because I had a doctors appointment the day of tryouts, its my fault, because if I "showed confidence," my doctor would have picked another day out of random. Sure, there is no probability of random bad luck. Every misfortune you have is just the universe punishing you for having "low self esteem."

1. Most women don't value those things in the way you think.
2. Women look for different things depending on whether you portray yourself as a friend, lover, or provider. If you want to be a provider, and if you're not ready to be a provider, then you're not.
3. Sure, we're all dealt different cards, but you make the most of it. That is what free will is. Free will is about action (e.g. choice), not reaction.

Recognize what you need to work on, and create realistic goals and expectations. If you were born to poor parents, what are you doing so you have greater financial freedom? If basketball is a passion of yours, what are you doing about it? Are you a man of action or are you a man who naively sits back and hope things just magically happen? Until you take action, you'll continue to feel like you do. Also, victim mentality is an unhealthy coping mechanism. Take charge of your life and be proactive. That is, if you want to be happy and successful. It's all on you, not others, to help you.

Women like men who are ambitious and passionate. You don't have to have already achieved your goals. That's a moving goal post anyway--once you achieve them, you'll find new ones. Women are more concerned about your attitude towards life. Frankly, the attitude behind your post sucks and explains your self-perpetuating frustration. Now that you know, take action to change this (internally and externally).

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30 Sep 2013, 12:24 am

blue_bean wrote:

Would I date a guy who has no high paying job, no wall full of sporting achievements and no active social life?
YES.

Would I date a guy who's first thing upon meeting me is to be debbie downer about lacking the above, and blame me for his lack of dating success whilst we're still complete strangers to one another?
NO.

Self defeatist and negative attitudes aren't healthy under any circumstance.

Really you don't need any of those things, I don't have a high paying job, a strong social circle or a wall of trophies yet I have a girlfriend and I was actively dating before I met her so go figure. OP, don't assume what women want, listen to them and find out what they want, most of the time you will be surprised.

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30 Sep 2013, 12:34 am

Fnord wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

TM1337FalconPunch wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

Fnord wrote:

LeLetch wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

I actually do fit the mold of their ideal boyfriend...

Evidence, please? If you were "Ideal", then you'd be a boyfriend to one of them.

...because women only care about the success a man has, not who the man is, or what he does.

Thus, by your reasoning, "Success" is part of the ideation, and a man could not be any woman's "ideal man" by virtue of being unsuccessful.

Hold on Fnord. All women suck. Wouldn't better advice be... a Man?

No, because if - as you say - "all women suck", there is no point in a man dating a man. In my opinion, the OP seems to (1) have an exaggerated opinion of his attractiveness, (2) believe he knows what all women want, and (3) believe that he will never be "good enough" to meet a woman's standards of an ideal man. In other words, he refuses to look to himself for any reason as to why he can not attract a woman.

Another idiot with no real world experience. If you think getting a girlfriend is so simple, why don't you get out and look for one!

lol? I'm pretty sure hes married...

I'm pretty sure he's not.

I am married, and have been for nearly a quarter-century.

Any more ignorant assumptions? :roll:

Yup yup. Such a pretty comment chain. My question tho, if we were in fact dateless, unmarried, and such assumptions were true, does that mean the OP was asking for an echo chamber?

If you look at things, most people are average, yet the majority of people do not wish to marry 'some specific average dude'. The premise that 'they're wrong' is problematic, because then you have to marry the first girl that asks you to, if you are unable to prove she's nuts.

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30 Sep 2013, 12:45 am

Aaendi wrote:

I mean, if a girl finds out that I never been on a date, don't have an active social life, a wall of trophies, or a high paying job, its my fault, my fault, my fault. Sure there is no luck involved.

If she believed in luck, then dating you would be a bad juju for her.

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30 Sep 2013, 12:54 am

Flyer wrote:

Aaendi wrote:

I mean, if a girl finds out that I never been on a date, don't have an active social life, a wall of trophies, or a high paying job, its my fault, my fault, my fault. Sure there is no luck involved.

If she believed in luck, then dating you would be a bad juju for her.

Googles: Juju. Gypsy slang. Thats random.
And its not luck. Not taking some measure of personal responsibility is something that might be catagorized as your fault.

I dunno, girls don't tell me stuff is my fault. So this never really comes up. To be fair tho, it might be because i take some measure of personal responsibility and don't blame some girl for being a fool for not dating me. If i did, they might tell me everything is my fault *shrug*.

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30 Sep 2013, 8:12 am

blue_bean wrote:

This.^^^

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