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13 Jan 2012, 11:47 pm

I feel as though i'm just too creepy or outright monstrous to even deserve to ever know love. I'm immediately dropped from consideration, and i feel as though those women are right to do that. Yet it's all I want out of life, but I'd never be able to actually have it, because i'm not human enough...



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14 Jan 2012, 12:26 am

I feel the same way sometimes, but then I realize how amazing my friends and family are. You DO deserve love. You are human and all people need love from others to some extent, depending on whether they prefer to be with people or not. Other people find companionship with pets instead.



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14 Jan 2012, 12:37 am

Hello!

EVERYONE deserves love. What have you done to make you think that you don't? Just because there are some cruel, cold-hearted women out there that hold that belief about you doesn't mean that you don't deserve to be loved.

Having experienced a lot of rejection myself by "the fairer sex" over the years, I'd like to think I know where you're coming from on this one. We are ALL loved by our Creator. The question is: Are we willing to accept that love, and allow that love to be shared with others through us?

Those who love me, love me well. Those who don't can go to hell!

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14 Jan 2012, 1:58 am

I felt the same way about myself a few years ago Toad. I've been rejected a lot to. As I said before; your a lot like me in some ways so I know you deserve love just as I do. Being rejected does NOT mean we are less than human; it means we are going for the wrong kinds of women. We should look into mail-order brides. Women from more conservative traditional cultures would grow to love guys like us because we are both very caring & supportive people


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14 Jan 2012, 2:27 am

nick007 wrote:
I felt the same way about myself a few years ago Toad. I've been rejected a lot to. As I said before; your a lot like me in some ways so I know you deserve love just as I do. Being rejected does NOT mean we are less than human; it means we are going for the wrong kinds of women. We should look into mail-order brides. Women from more conservative traditional cultures would grow to love guys like us because we are both very caring & supportive people


That's not always true. There are some women who are more enlightened and have learned the value of innocence and kindness. It can make an ok attractive guy into a God for me.


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14 Jan 2012, 2:44 am

cinbad wrote:
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I felt the same way about myself a few years ago Toad. I've been rejected a lot to. As I said before; your a lot like me in some ways so I know you deserve love just as I do. Being rejected does NOT mean we are less than human; it means we are going for the wrong kinds of women. We should look into mail-order brides. Women from more conservative traditional cultures would grow to love guys like us because we are both very caring & supportive people


That's not always true. There are some women who are more enlightened and have learned the value of innocence and kindness. It can make an ok attractive guy into a God for me.

Me & Toad must be doing something wrong then. No women would give me a chance for the last 7/8 years & then when one finally did; the relationship was one-sided & she ended up dumping me after I put forth quite a lot of effort & compromised most everything I could when there was a problem because she did not want to compromise anything or put forth effort to make it work.


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14 Jan 2012, 2:57 am

nick007 wrote:
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I felt the same way about myself a few years ago Toad. I've been rejected a lot to. As I said before; your a lot like me in some ways so I know you deserve love just as I do. Being rejected does NOT mean we are less than human; it means we are going for the wrong kinds of women. We should look into mail-order brides. Women from more conservative traditional cultures would grow to love guys like us because we are both very caring & supportive people


That's not always true. There are some women who are more enlightened and have learned the value of innocence and kindness. It can make an ok attractive guy into a God for me.

Me & Toad must be doing something wrong then. No women would give me a chance for the last 7/8 years & then when one finally did; the relationship was one-sided & she ended up dumping me after I put forth quite a lot of effort & compromised most everything I could when there was a problem because she did not want to compromise anything or put forth effort to make it work.


I am dating someone who is 36 and has had the same issues as both of you. Unfortunately, he had given up on finding someone and is quite happy with an occasional relationship. Never give up the dream, even living with hope will help you find it eventually. If we can give love, we are worthy of it.


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14 Jan 2012, 4:10 am

Everyone wants to be loved and to be accepted.

However common sense tells me that in the world we live in, not everyone can get precisely what he wants so you need to settle for less than what you really want.

People here often make emotional arguments and I find it kinda foolish. Unfortunately, in the world we live in, emotional arguments hold no basis because the real world is cruel and unfair and unjust.

What I mean is that this world does not respond to one's emotions.



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14 Jan 2012, 7:25 am

The natural selection has the answer for your question.



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14 Jan 2012, 7:56 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
I feel as though i'm just too creepy or outright monstrous to even deserve to ever know love. I'm immediately dropped from consideration, and i feel as though those women are right to do that. Yet it's all I want out of life, but I'd never be able to actually have it, because i'm not human enough...


Think of it this way.

If you were a girl, would you want to be in a relationship with the male you? If no, why not?

Being honest and critical of one's self is the first step to take towards improvement. You've opted to put all the burden on girls instead of trying to work on yourself.

Good luck with that attitude.



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14 Jan 2012, 8:10 am

MCalavera wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
I feel as though i'm just too creepy or outright monstrous to even deserve to ever know love. I'm immediately dropped from consideration, and i feel as though those women are right to do that. Yet it's all I want out of life, but I'd never be able to actually have it, because i'm not human enough...


Think of it this way.

If you were a girl, would you want to be in a relationship with the male you? If no, why not?

Being honest and critical of one's self is the first step to take towards improvement. You've opted to put all the burden on girls instead of trying to work on yourself.

Good luck with that attitude.


His answer wouldn't mean anything.

It's impossible to get the real answer, he's not a girl.



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14 Jan 2012, 8:46 am

You've been 'dropped from consideration', up until now.... past present future and you can pursue if you wish

maybe your not making a first move when you say '....they(women) are right to do that....'

you could change your beliefs, we could all say models would never look at me! even a beautiful model could feel inadequate with an object of affection

pretty much there is someone for everyone in your league, but you need to start by fluffing your tail feathers, and puffing your chest out like a rooster...... its how nature still likes doing things



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14 Jan 2012, 11:10 am

ToadOfSteel wrote:
I feel as though i'm just too creepy or outright monstrous to even deserve to ever know love. I'm immediately dropped from consideration, and i feel as though those women are right to do that. Yet it's all I want out of life, but I'd never be able to actually have it, because i'm not human enough...


I doubt this is true, in fact it's the opposite - if they don't think of you, they don't deserve you.



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14 Jan 2012, 1:03 pm

ok, so first off let me put up my flame shield, cuz i am going to say some unpopular things. :lol:

NOBODY deserves love.

love is not determined by some kind of scales of justice that tip in your favour if you are more worthy or more special than the next person. there isn't anything fair when it comes to love. there are many other factors involved that will ultimately affect if a person will ever find a life partner... and whether or not you deserve it is a completely irrelevant point.

i am not saying that people should become douchebags or as*holes, but that is another issue altogether. what i'm saying is that you can be the most deserving person on the earth and still die alone, and i think we have all met someone who seems to deserve very little - but gets love handed to them on a silver platter.

it unfair as all hell, yes. but that will never ever change.

getting hung up on the idea of being worthy/unworthy of love will lead to bitterness, resentment, and self-loathing. there isn't a magic formula that can help anybody and everybody to get a partner. advice and small changes may or may not help, and in the end a person may just have to find ways to be ok with being single. and it's NOT because a person is undeserving, but rather because life is unfair. not one of us has the power to change that.

some of us who are deserving will live and die penniless too. or friendless. or jobless. or illiterate. or mentally ill. or with chronic pain. there are many reasons why these things happen (and some of them are changeable), but deserving it (or not) is not a factor that affects the end result.

ToS, i believe you have a certain idealism or mental disconnect between how you think the world SHOULD BE and how the world actually IS. i say that not only because of this thread but also because of the thread about dressing for work. in a completely fair and just world, an employer should not care how we clothe ourselves but should instead primarily judge us the quality of our work. but they don't. in fact... in many cases i would say that the image we project is of equal importance to the work we complete.

this is somewhat parallel to the issue of love and dating. when people are attracted to us, they are not falling for us because we deserve love... and when we get hired for a job we don't get signed on because we deserve the job. these things happen because of a combination of complicated factors including suitability.... and also the way in which we present ourselves to the world. people will base their impressions of us (in work or in dating) on the package that we show them. over time, they will get to know more important things about us, but it is up to us to demonstrate right from the get-go that we are the right ones for the job or for love.

and sometimes... it may not happen.


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14 Jan 2012, 1:26 pm

Agree with this ^^ 100%.



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14 Jan 2012, 4:08 pm

Sounds like a pretty depressing place to be content with.


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