Woman Want Confident men? Scientific Evolution Time!

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Do woman want confident men or do they want men who are capable and willing to climb the social pecking order to reach the top. NT, the ones who have no interest in scientific truth, only care for the social game, attacking competition and creating allies only want a confident person who is confident at the game.

A confident Aspie are often incapable or unwilling to play this game, which they find boring most of the time. They, just like me want to talk about science and what is truth, and what is dogma. But this confident in the eyes of NT woman is the wrong kind of confidence it is seen as “An Arrogant Know All”. If I have logical or scientific evidence to support an NT woman is unwilling read it, simply not interested in it.

Should I assort and concern myself with mere social trifle? Who’s turn it is to make teas, stop letting people tell me what to do, stop letting people get away with subtle putdown jokes. An and stop Arguing with the pastor about what the truth of the universe is or isn’t because I might come over as a know all.

Summery: Woman want confident but it has to be the right kind of confidence.

"Summery: Woman want confident but it has to be the right kind of confidence."

Or, they want competent men and, as in many other areas (and not just with women, before I start taking flack), they can be taken in by the propaganda and the advertising. The image may not match the substance.

If a particular attitude will let a man "get" a woman, well that is a degree of competence, but it may not be quite what the woman had in mind, once she gets beyond that initail phase.


But I'm a man. Female input is required.

Competence, self-reliance, assurance, cockiness or confidence It all means nothing unless it is used for the weapon for climbing the social pecking order. Many aspies don’t/can't play the game.

"It all means nothing unless it is used for the weapon for climbing the social pecking order."

According to those in that game.

In this post-modern world, there are other tales.
Those in the pecking order game would probably not recognise this.

As i have little experience in these matters my reasonings are purely hypothetical, but i beleive that most women want a man who is comfortable with himself.
People who are comfortable with themselves don't feel the need to prove themselves to others and don't need to belittle others in order to make themselves look/feel better.
A person who is comfortable with themselves will attract people who are genuinely interested in THEM not who they pretend to be
As i said, purely hypothetical.

This is true so long it is that person cares about the pecking order and good at climbing it. How many time do I have to point it to you.

I have had someone, though for a sort time, and I stop doing the trying to fit in thing. I even started to dress like an aspie, talk like an aspie, and think more like an aspie. Do you know where this is going?

I'm not disagreeing with you, Aspie_Chav, within context.

The context may even be the majority of society but that's not the whole story: there will always be other tales, sets of values, options.
Subversive, sub-culture, underground, as may be.
Or celebrated diversity, if one is fortunate.

But it is interesting that they exist, even under the most oppressive of conformist regimes. Which is hardly what we currently experience. This is not Stailin's Russia.

Personally, I'd opted out of pecking order games by the time I left school. I've had to negotiate the storms and currents of office and committee politics from time to time, but largely by being indifferent and unmoved by such.
"Could you help me out by putting the unwritten rules in writing, please?"

Depends on the woman. Some women like guys they can walk over, some like the middle ground, and some like guys who will walk over everyone else.

So many people on WrongPlanet are so cynical and simplistic about NTs, especially female NTs. Their views have become very twisted. It just looks like an attempt to make themselves look better by making others, especially those that rejected them, look worse.

Are you referring to my comment? I didn't mean it in a rude or cynical way.

No you're fine. I mean the people who say things like "all NTs are shallow, superficial, and controlled by the media, who only want to hurt others", and then talk about aspies are some sort of superiror race of more evolved people.

I talk about most subjects from a scientific prospective not a morality one. Aspies have a hard time with relationships is because they are at the bottom of this pecking order. Some NT woman are obviously superficial and power hungry, others tend to believe that they are not into those thing but seem to gravitate towards those higher up the pecking order.

To a limited extent on subconscious level even I care about social climbing obviously to a lesser extent that an NT does it. Now I know the nature of this behaviour, I don’t let it influence my view of reality.

Be confident at what you do best, I bet a woman will be impressed that you're so driven towards something that no one else can do quite the way you do..

Also finding her interesting shouldn't be hard if you do find her interesting.

Try to avoid a certain list of rules, instead apply the rule that "if it works, it works" that way you're not gonna end up in a relationship you end up fighting to break free of.

....Mmmhmmm, and this is why the jack@$$ who goes around acting like a d!ck to everyone, or especially the bullies, get the girls? It's all heirarchy.

Scintillate, you go around these boards claiming to be some don juan, like your on par with johnny depp or something with the ladies, and you've claimed you always have been. I have read many of your posts. And, I find it hard to believe your even AS. I mean, that is a VERY clear anti-symptom. Now, if you had said, you had a girlfriend but it took alot of work for you to get her, that I might have been able to believe. I was once one of them (and my dumb@$$ f****d it up)..... But I'm tired of seeing AS being treated like the next AD(H)D. Just because you have a few small symptoms doesn't mean you've got it.
I'm not trying to offend you, I am trying to point you in the right direction with whatever diagnosis your seeking, but if someone dx'ed you as an aspie and you've been playing don juan growing up, it is abundantly clear you were strongly misdiagnosed. Now counselors are starting to throw the diagnosis around too loosely, just like they did with ADD. That, and un-dx'ed people who identify with one or two slight characteristics and want to play cowboys and indians with it, those are the ones who honestly offend me.
Back to topic, it's an evolutionary phenom to describe.... Yeah, NTs are after status and wealth, and to a lesser degree, so are aspie females (in general), and to a far lesser degree so are aspie males. We're evolving away from such things though.... The reasoning behind why males are ***GENERALLY*** more evolved than females lies in gender psychology. Women are designed to think more with emotion, though all NTs largely think with emotion reguardless of gender, but women signifigantly even moreso. Hince, AS is refferred to as "the dominantly male brain" (in males or females), analytical and logic-based thought patterns. But, the men aren't without fault either though. Many NT men are either neglective, abusive, etc., but NT women seem to like these qualities because it displays dominance... And dominance is what theyr whole game is about.
In general, yeah, we're (AS) the next phase of evolution, we're a more advanced model, morally and intellectually. This does not mean our lives hold greater value than those of NTs, but niether does it mean that we're less important either, such as the NT establishment often makes us feel. Now, if the PC gestappo libs or jesus nazi cons wants to cut my throat over this then I don't really care......... I'm in a very pissy mood today, but rest assured I'll tell it like i see it.

I'll even go as far as to say, equally crippling as involuntary celibacy is, there is another great demon, a sibling, that accompanies it with many AS people, and that is for those of us who are truelly ahead of our times. Through primal struggles in wake of our mental and emotional preservation, we are forced to analyze and question the traditions and sociology of the NT world... And seeing as we're biological problem solvers, we tend to notice the animal behaviors in our NT counterparts alot more often... Not trying to sound offensive saying this in any way, but it's the only way I know how to describe it.... It's like, imagine being the only human in a world occupied by farm animals, and then to make matters worse, being starved by the farm animals. I'm not trying to compare NTs to farm animals, it was an analogy.
For so often artists, poets, philosophers, etc. often talk about how bad our world is, but most people are unable and unwilling to do what is neccessary to make things better. And it's written into their DNA.