Not every smile means they like you!

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15 Jun 2012, 10:30 am

Just like the rest of you here, I have a real problem reading people.

A male smiles at me politely and my brain makes me think "oh maybe he likes me!". How do you learn to differentiate between politeness and actual interest?
I've had relationships before and I have 3 children, but I can never make it work.
Suddenly I find myself in love with my high school sweetheart all over again, but then I'll question if I really am in love again or just pining for the content feeling I got when we were together?

Sorry this post is such a ramble, but how do you know when someone is interested?


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15 Jun 2012, 10:38 am

Body Language:

- Always view body language in clusters, as individual movements/mannerisms and such can give a false impression.
- Always stay objective.
- Always create a "baseline" for the person you are trying to read.

In your case, look for his eyebrows to move upwards a little bit when he sees you, along with a smile.

Manipulators or preening, IE adjusting his clothes, fixing his hair and so on.

Eye contact, or attempts at eye contact.

"Crotch displays" and aggressive posing.

Him touching you.

Him seeking contact with you out of the ordinary.



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15 Jun 2012, 12:53 pm

I don't know. Its like you are asking a bunch of blind people what the sky looks like.

But I guess I can try, but I'm probably the worst at this stuff.

Here are some things that might indicate a male might like you:

1) Smiles at you all the time

2) Talks smooth to you

3) Touches you

4) Gets close to you

5) Says obvious things that indicate he likes you

6) Gets nervous

7) Stutters

8) Compliments you

9) Asks you to coffee or to study together

10) Follows you around/ "stalks you"



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15 Jun 2012, 1:18 pm

Sarah85 wrote:
Just like the rest of you here, I have a real problem reading people.

A male smiles at me politely and my brain makes me think "oh maybe he likes me!". How do you learn to differentiate between politeness and actual interest?
I've had relationships before and I have 3 children, but I can never make it work.
Suddenly I find myself in love with my high school sweetheart all over again, but then I'll question if I really am in love again or just pining for the content feeling I got when we were together?

Sorry this post is such a ramble, but how do you know when someone is interested?

This is so funny and frustrating at the same time! I remember mistaking mere politeness for liking, many times. Then I would be feeling like a fool because the male in question was just being nice. Like holding doors for me, or buying me a Coke on a hot day, or asking questions with polite interest, only to later mention their girlfriend, wife, or whatever.

I remember when I met my fiance, I started searching websites to learn what signs I should look for to see if he liked me. I'll tell you something interesting: some of those cues don't seem to apply to Aspie males! I once tried to follow some suggestions for determining signs of interest, like standing a little too close to see if he would be flattered. He promptly moved away from me. This was because he was leery of unexpected touch! I wonder if an NT would have moved away from me like that. I tried to watch his face for signs like the pupils dilating or the eyebrows going up but couldn't really tell. That's because I have trouble staring at people's eyes for any length of time.

I am glad we got together because if it was up to me waiting for a sign, I don't know what would have happened. :D
Oh, well. Good luck with it!


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15 Jun 2012, 2:34 pm

hartzofspace wrote:
This is so funny and frustrating at the same time! I remember mistaking mere politeness for liking, many times. Then I would be feeling like a fool because the male in question was just being nice. Like holding doors for me, or buying me a Coke on a hot day, or asking questions with polite interest, only to later mention their girlfriend, wife, or whatever.


It doesn't change anything, but there's still a very good chance that these guys did indeed like you, even if they were not actually pursuing you as a partner.

Something I've noticed in men (and I'm not referring to guys who cheat, that's a whole separate issue) is that, even when in a relationship, we still tend to seek the approval of women we are attracted to.


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15 Jun 2012, 4:11 pm

Trust me, we certainly wouldn't take a smile for granted. I always will assume someone smiling at me is just being friendly and nothing more. I mostly know that for sure because they often smile at other people in the same way. The only way I would know if this person really liked me is if I knew them well enough and they always smiled at me and not at others in the same way. That's pretty much all I've got. Other than that I'm clueless like the rest.


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15 Jun 2012, 4:18 pm

mds_02 wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
This is so funny and frustrating at the same time! I remember mistaking mere politeness for liking, many times. Then I would be feeling like a fool because the male in question was just being nice. Like holding doors for me, or buying me a Coke on a hot day, or asking questions with polite interest, only to later mention their girlfriend, wife, or whatever.


It doesn't change anything, but there's still a very good chance that these guys did indeed like you, even if they were not actually pursuing you as a partner.

Something I've noticed in men (and I'm not referring to guys who cheat, that's a whole separate issue) is that, even when in a relationship, we still tend to seek the approval of women we are attracted to.

Thank you, that explains a lot. I used to get terribly confused when they were so nice and yet didn't seem to want to date me!


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15 Jun 2012, 4:39 pm

NT prospective here.

Now there's the polite smile, Normally a cordal short smile, most times involving a nod of the head which is out of politness often times occurs when in passing, ( such as in the hallway or school ect )

Now this is where it can be tough even for us sometimes.
The " I like you smile "
Normally lasts longer and contains eye contact which normally occurs when talking to OR if the person is observing you.

If its a daily occurance I suggest talking to the person, if your shy, do it in small doses, like just saying " Hi " every once in a while If interested the person may come up to you and try to start a conversation OR they may be to shy to do so themselves ( I suppose it depends on the situation )

If thats the case and both people are too shy to strike up conversation, then as I said do small doses and go from there. Like saying " Hi " for a while and then moving up to " How are you? "



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16 Jun 2012, 12:43 am

sarah, relationships aren't built overnight and if he did like you, you could pick up were you left off. It doesn't matter what if he doesn't initially like you or not, just give it a shot.



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16 Jun 2012, 1:26 am

there's also the distinction of, they're nice to you because they have to be (i.e. because they are at work dealing with customers).



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16 Jun 2012, 4:14 am

It's interesting (and somewhat reassuring) that you have this problem as a woman, since I thought this was mainly a problem that men had when interpreting women.

I think the answer depends on what "type" of guy he is--including whether he's aspie or NT. When I am just attracted (at least for the time being) to a woman's physical appearance, I'll often kind of scan her up and down with my eyes. When it's her mannerisms or personality that attract me, I will eventually do the "body scan" too (since the body is so important to sexuality), but I may wait quite a while if I'm more focused on her mind at the time, and I will try and make a personal conversation.

By "personal" I mean trying to discuss things in a way that I normally wouldn't with others, trying to pick up on the idiosyncracies of her mind and mirror her quirks. Though I like girls who seem quirky/random so there's more opportunity for this. And, this creates a new question of "How do I tell if a girl is just on the same mental wavelength as me or is she attracted", which I still misjudge ALL the time.

Anyway, I'm aspie--but NT guys I think are more likely to use socially conventional ways, like offering to buy you things, helping you out with stuff, and using more subtleties of expression that I don't pick up on.



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16 Jun 2012, 4:26 am

I know people smile when they are happy. I didn't know it meant other things. Body language is confusing since it changes in every social situation and I found out when people laugh after saying something, it does not always mean they were joking. Now I have to ask if they are kidding or not. I do that to my husband quite a lot.

I also can't tell if someone doesn't like me unless they make it that obvious. They would have to be mean to me or snotty or not nice or have negative opinions about me. Plus I also assume someone doesn't like me when we have had a conflict or with their friend. If someone is nice to me, I assume they like me.


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16 Jun 2012, 12:42 pm

Aspie moment.

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16 Jun 2012, 2:17 pm

Homer_Bob wrote:
Trust me, we certainly wouldn't take a smile for granted. I always will assume someone smiling at me is just being friendly and nothing more. I mostly know that for sure because they often smile at other people in the same way. The only way I would know if this person really liked me is if I knew them well enough and they always smiled at me and not at others in the same way. That's pretty much all I've got. Other than that I'm clueless like the rest.
Yes,I am pretty clueless also.A girl once smiled at me and made eye contact while we were at a library.I approached her [rare for me ] engaged her and asked her out but was turned down politely.In hindsight,I did very well as far as approaching her and engaging.However,I really didn't have enough information to accurately access whether or not she had any interest in me.



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16 Jun 2012, 4:08 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Aspie moment.

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