I can't stand being asked out, is it normal?
I've been told my attitudes towards dating are really unusual, so I'm wondering if anyone else has similar feelings. I get asked out somewhat regularly, and it causes me massive amounts of anxiety/repulsion/general misery. I don't have high standards per se, but fairly specific expectations. I'm a female in high tech and I really like guys who I can talk to about programming and hacking and whatever else, which is really fairly broad.
I also don't feel comfortable with strangers, and I only really feel ok pursuing romantic relationships with people I already know, but the men who ask me out more or less always just barely know me. I hate going on traditional dinner dates, I'd rather do something where I'm in a comfortable, familiar situation like doing some kind of computer stuff, so the idea of going on a date horrifies me. Creating an awkward social situation by turning someone down horrifies me. The thought that these men look at me and decide they want to ask me out based entirely off of my appearance is disgusting. I could go on and on really.
I don't feel like I'm being arrogant and lofty in my expectations, rather than that I'm just really timid, and I need to be approached like I'm some dumb panicky wildlife so that I don't flip out and sever myself from an entire social circle just to avoid one person who asked me out this one time.
It's a massive source of frustration because I'm not nearly as timid or frigid in a sexual sense, only in terms of emotional connections. I have a really hard time gauging how normal this is though, and whether it's just me personally or if it's common for people like us. I actually feel fairly comfortable pursuing someone I'm interested in, because I can hunt at my own pace. Actually forming emotional connections at that point is a completely different topic, which boils mostly down to that I just can't do it. But, whatever. I just want to know how many other people can't handle the asking out/first date sort of end of it.
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It's not lucky - being caused unmanageable anxiety by the way NTs seem to approach people for dating is just as useless as never being asked out at all. I've tried to overcome it before, but at that point, it seems like I've just let people down by my emotional unavailability. I find connecting with people who aren't really similar to myself extremely difficult because I have a hard time understanding them. I'm really interested in if other people have managed this problem and how, rather than whether the grass is greener on my end.
I also don't feel comfortable with strangers, and I only really feel ok pursuing romantic relationships with people I already know, but the men who ask me out more or less always just barely know me. I hate going on traditional dinner dates, I'd rather do something where I'm in a comfortable, familiar situation like doing some kind of computer stuff, so the idea of going on a date horrifies me. Creating an awkward social situation by turning someone down horrifies me. The thought that these men look at me and decide they want to ask me out based entirely off of my appearance is disgusting. I could go on and on really.
I don't feel like I'm being arrogant and lofty in my expectations, rather than that I'm just really timid, and I need to be approached like I'm some dumb panicky wildlife so that I don't flip out and sever myself from an entire social circle just to avoid one person who asked me out this one time.
It's a massive source of frustration because I'm not nearly as timid or frigid in a sexual sense, only in terms of emotional connections. I have a really hard time gauging how normal this is though, and whether it's just me personally or if it's common for people like us. I actually feel fairly comfortable pursuing someone I'm interested in, because I can hunt at my own pace. Actually forming emotional connections at that point is a completely different topic, which boils mostly down to that I just can't do it. But, whatever. I just want to know how many other people can't handle the asking out/first date sort of end of it.
As a guy, I find it strange that I'm terrified of asking women out. I'd honestly LOVE it if women decided to ask me out instead. I almost go into a panic at the thought of asking someone out because I don't know when to gauge "the right time to ask". I don't know how long to give myself at the friend stage, what needs to be done before asking said individual out, and, in a way, I've developed this kind of fear that I'm extremely likely to be rejected because of how often it has happened in my past. At least if people ask me out, and I end up saying "no", I know how to deliver an extremely polite and gentle rejection that eases the pain because I know it's an awful feeling.
So again, you're not alone in feeling a bit strange within your gender.
ugh responses in this thread are why imagining yourself in other people's shoes doesn't work
you have to imagine them in their shoes
I don't think it's weird to feel anxious and dislike it when strangers ask you for things (which is essentially what hitting on it, asking for someones time and attention). And it does put you in a difficult position. You now have to extricate yourself from this awkward socially complicated situation because someone who has been socialized to think of you as prey.
It bugs me that any time I'm in public I'm fair game for sexual attention, and have been since I was 11.
Appearance isn't an invitation.
When a guy who knows you wants to get to know you better/romantically, it can be nice.
When a stranger looks at you and decides he'd like a chance to convince you to let him have an orgasm inside you, not nice.
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you have to imagine them in their shoes
I don't think it's weird to feel anxious and dislike it when strangers ask you for things (which is essentially what hitting on it, asking for someones time and attention). And it does put you in a difficult position. You now have to extricate yourself from this awkward socially complicated situation because someone who has been socialized to think of you as prey.
It bugs me that any time I'm in public I'm fair game for sexual attention, and have been since I was 11.
Appearance isn't an invitation.
When a guy who knows you wants to get to know you better/romantically, it can be nice.
When a stranger looks at you and decides he'd like a chance to convince you to let him have an orgasm inside you, not nice.
Thank you. I understand that it's pretty normal to be offput by unwanted sexual attraction from strangers, for both men and women. I'm really curious though if people on the spectrum have had luck with forcing themselves to go about dating in these kind of "traditional" ways, or if it's a better idea to wait out the loneliness and stay within our comfort zones. Will the anxiety I feel in these situations preclude being able to form a connection with someone? It's so hard to tell without just going forth and trying it, which is flippin' hard, man.
I also don't feel comfortable with strangers, and I only really feel ok pursuing romantic relationships with people I already know, but the men who ask me out more or less always just barely know me. I hate going on traditional dinner dates, I'd rather do something where I'm in a comfortable, familiar situation like doing some kind of computer stuff, so the idea of going on a date horrifies me. Creating an awkward social situation by turning someone down horrifies me. The thought that these men look at me and decide they want to ask me out based entirely off of my appearance is disgusting. I could go on and on really.
I don't feel like I'm being arrogant and lofty in my expectations, rather than that I'm just
really timid, and I need to be approached like I'm some dumb panicky wildlife so that I don't flip out and sever myself from an entire social circle just to avoid one person who asked me out this one time.
It's a massive source of frustration because I'm not nearly as timid or frigid in a sexual sense, only in terms of emotional connections. I have a really hard time gauging how normal this is though, and whether it's just me personally or if it's common for people like us. I actually feel fairly comfortable pursuing someone I'm interested in, because I can hunt at my own pace. Actually forming emotional connections at that point is a completely different topic, which boils mostly down to that I just can't do it. But, whatever. I just want to know how many other people can't handle the asking out/first date sort of end of it.
I like my social time planned. I don't like having to make sudden social decisions, living in a cloud of interactive randomness. Maybe the thing you dont like about it is that you're not expecting it, and it just gets sprung at you out of the blue; no prep time. I would find that stressful.
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It's amazing that we're still being relatively civil.
I'm amazed that you used the word "woman" instead of the word "female."
As for the OP, I find Winter's anxieties less than surprising.
It should be understandable to men generally, after all, anxiety about asking people out includes not only anxiety about the answer to the request but anxieties about the date itself, and the latter can be shared by both parties.
If one cares about letting someone down gently or avoiding a scene, rejecting someone strikes me as being in itself a challenging social maneuver (some might argue that the former is virtually impossible).
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Those females should make me a sammich.
My problem was as a teenager the only time women showed me attention (that I wasn't oblivious to of course) was to take advantage of me. It's easy to say leave it in the past but when you've been mistreated as I have it's hard to not have in the back of your mind. If I were asked out tomorrow, I would almost instinctively wonder in what way the woman was trying to take advantage of me. Not a healthy attitude but sadly one I have.
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