Is being straight more frustrating than being gay, or not?

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26 Aug 2012, 2:21 pm

I've recently thought that being gay must be less frustrating, although that may be counter-intuitive as it's even harder to get partners when you're a minority within a minority (gay aspie) - this is because at random times girls (especially drunk ones) seem to flirt with guys on the street (and I'm sure it happens to others more often than it could ever happen to me), or at least guys have such an opportunity. Well, I'd falter at any rate, but at least I don't regret it afterwards, as I'm not really missing much (if a male cutie did that, on other hand, I'd curse my ineptitude for months...)



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26 Aug 2012, 3:00 pm

Men liking Men must be, except the possible social strain, a much easier situation than Men liking Women. Same with Women liking Women. You would know how your partner works.

I've heard of people wanting to be gay because of this. Nature's often in the way, though.



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26 Aug 2012, 3:25 pm

I would argue that it isn't really, especially when you look at the variety of male, and female personalities. Also, when you consider that homosexuals have higher rates of suicide and mental illness complicates it somewhat.

I'm in a homosexual relationship, and while mine is more successful than a lot of my friends relationships, I don't think anecdotal evidence will suffice. (Although it should be noted that the majority of my friends are in/have been in homosexual relationships, and in all honesty they have their own unique set of problems, and a lot of the same problems.

I think if you're in an environment where homosexuality is treated as normal, not just tolerated, and you're attracted to people who are the same type of masculinity/femininity as you, with similar thought patterns, it could be easier. But where's the fun in that?



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26 Aug 2012, 4:05 pm

I would tend to think that being gay is more frustrating if for no other reason than societal expectations and norms. However, I think that being aspie is the difficult part for most of us here, not sexual orientation.


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26 Aug 2012, 4:28 pm

I don't think it is any easier. To look from an outsider's point of view it may seem like it should be, but in reality there are lots of complications that can make things really confusing.



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26 Aug 2012, 4:36 pm

The only thing that frustrates me about being straight are the mind games that women play on men. Do gay men play mind games with each other?

Men will be up front with what's on their minds ("So, whaddaya want?" ... "BJ and Beer") than a woman ("So, whaddaya want?" ... "What do you mean?").

A woman at work asked me if I would help her. When I asked "With what?", she got all huffy and claimed that I was being uncooperative. Then she stomped off back to the warehouse.

A short while later, a man at work asked me if I would help him. When I asked "With what?, he said "Unloading a truck". Then we unloaded the truck.

It turns out they both wanted the same thing. He runs the loading dock and she is his secretary.



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26 Aug 2012, 5:03 pm

Fnord wrote:
Do gay men play mind games with each other?
some of the nt gays are the most intrigue making mindplaying f&%¤er`s off them all.

my oppinion on the OP is that as said before "a minority in the minority group", but a lot of us on the spectrum, boys and girls, are not steriotypical for our gender, so like me, i am maybe not like raj in big bang theory, but at least half way there, so for me, and the androgyne part of the aspie women, maybe it had been more fish in the sea if we where gays??? not sure, but since i am straight, i am very happy not be Gay, then I hadn`t fancied women, had I :lol:


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26 Aug 2012, 6:36 pm

I can't speak for males, but I can't imagine being a lesbian aspie being any easier. If anything the prospect fills me with shock and horror (perhaps exaggerating there just a tad) even though I identify as bi.

1) Most women are too complicated. Theoretically speaking gender doesn't matter much to me, but from a real-world perspective, I just don't get along that well with other females. (At least, NT ones. I don't know any aspie women personally.) A lot of them confuse and irritate me. So that narrows the dating pool, right there.

2) Since here in the states our culture is still heteronormative, knowing what females were potential "targets" would be hell for me. It's hard enough for me to pick up on flirting and social cues even when I know there's a 90% or so chance that the person in question is attracted to my gender; reduce that to a 25% or less chance and I might as well join a convent now :lol:

Perhaps these same issues don't apply for all or even most aspie lesbians, so I can only say I hope they have it (much) easier than I would :)


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26 Aug 2012, 8:51 pm

In high school there was a guy who couldn't get a girl, so he turned gay, couldn't get a guy.



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26 Aug 2012, 9:04 pm

thewhitrbbit wrote:
In high school there was a guy who couldn't get a girl, so he turned gay, couldn't get a guy.

Are you saying that you know someone who chose to become gay because he could not get a date with a girl?

:lmao:

Good one! Now pull me other leg; it's got bells on!

:lol: :lol:



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26 Aug 2012, 9:13 pm

thewhitrbbit wrote:
In high school there was a guy who couldn't get a girl, so he turned gay, couldn't get a guy.


Ah, the irony. Did he then do a Winston Churchill and cross back to the other side?


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26 Aug 2012, 10:16 pm

Fnord wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
In high school there was a guy who couldn't get a girl, so he turned gay, couldn't get a guy.

Are you saying that you know someone who chose to become gay because he could not get a date with a girl?

:lmao:

Good one! Now pull me other leg; it's got bells on!

:lol: :lol:


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27 Aug 2012, 7:05 am

no, it's not harder to be a straight person
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27 Aug 2012, 10:45 am

thewhitrbbit wrote:
Fnord wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
In high school there was a guy who couldn't get a girl, so he turned gay, couldn't get a guy.

Are you saying that you know someone who chose to become gay because he could not get a date with a girl?

:lmao:

Good one! Now pull me other leg; it's got bells on!

:lol: :lol:


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27 Aug 2012, 10:55 am

Fnord wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
Fnord wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
In high school there was a guy who couldn't get a girl, so he turned gay, couldn't get a guy.

Are you saying that you know someone who chose to become gay because he could not get a date with a girl?

:lmao:

Good one! Now pull me other leg; it's got bells on!

:lol: :lol:


Right hand on the Bible.

The Bible is a collection of largely apocryphal accounts of superstitious legends that were written to support a racist and sexist patriarchal hierarchy that has endured for a thousand years -- it is only a book.

Come out of the Dark Ages.


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27 Aug 2012, 11:03 am

I'd say that putting one's hand in the Bible is figurative speech in this context, meaning that he totally swears it's true.

Man that must be sad. Poor guy :lol:

I'd say, it might be easier in some aspects. At least around here, a gay guy could go to certain kinds of nightclubs and pick up someone there, I know it because I've seen it, and have his sexual needs satisfied.

Relationships would be a completely different matter though, I'd say it would be actually harder to find someone compatible in such a smaller dating pool.


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