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28 Sep 2012, 10:32 pm

so what up's with this whole nice guy vs bad boy thing.
most men are in shade of gray.
Men are not divide into two groups nice guys and bad boys.
we each have are own personality.
The truth is most men are not ''bad boys'' think about all your nt friends, cousin,brothers,nephews,uncle,
former school mate that are in a relationship and how many them are ''bad boys''.



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28 Sep 2012, 10:44 pm

I think the "bad boy" title means more like someone who is cool and confident and does their own thing without caring about what they are "supposed" to do.
"nice guy" is more of a people pleaser that likes to follow rules and do nice gestures for people.
Obviously people are not black and white like that so I think it's kind of stupid but that is my view of the label.



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28 Sep 2012, 11:00 pm

I think their are 2 types of nice guys:
1. The two faced people pleaser with no opinions and is only nice to certain types of people
2. The confident guy who cares about people, admits he is wrong, has opinions but non-threatening, sorta follows the rules

Bad Boy:
1. Promiscuous, says everything, plays by their own rules, can be confrontational but kind of doesn't care most of the time



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29 Sep 2012, 12:02 am

Whenever somebody says the term "bad boy" on here, I always picture a dumb typical-looking whiteboy who trys to act rude/tough all the time.



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29 Sep 2012, 12:42 am

I may be a nice guy and have only had sex a few times in my life, but I have been able to please two of three women I have been with. Success. :D



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29 Sep 2012, 12:45 am

aspiemike wrote:
I may be a nice guy and have only had sex a few times in my life, but I have been able to please two of three women I have been with. Success. :D


Sorry to turn this into a subtopic on sex.



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29 Sep 2012, 12:58 am

I'm sure this will fall upon deaf ears but can we PLEASE not necro the "badboy/niceguy" debate over and over and over again every couple of weeks?
It gets tiring, and we have a search function, there's already been at heaps of threads on this topic before, practically everything that can possibly be said on that topic has already been said here somewhere before.


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29 Sep 2012, 1:08 am

That stupid "badboy" term sounds like a pale white-guy with red or brown hair that tries to look "gangsta" by wearing baggy pants.

An "alpha-male" sounds like a big dumb white-guy wearing tight pants. The terms people always use on here crack me up. :lmao:



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29 Sep 2012, 1:16 am

To me, the nice guy vs. bad guy idea is about this idea that some people have that "nice guys always finish last." They lament about how girls "only date jerks." This isn't true, even if they don't notice.

A lot of my friends get a lot of girlfriends. There's one (who actually claims to not have time for dating anymore) who's super nice and has had many girlfriends--and other girls are all over him. I'm pretty sure social skills has a lot more to do with dating than we Autistic people can understand, especially because apparently only 7% of communication is verbal. (Also, he may be considered more attractive than me--I'm not sure.)

I don't think we need to change our actions too drastically, but being able to pick up on what girls are really saying and to avoid disturbing or offending them would probably be most helpful to us.



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29 Sep 2012, 1:40 am

^^^ A thought has occurred to me... we see a lot of dating activity happen between the aggressive, jerky, "bad-boy/alpha/beta" type male, and the seemingly-many women who always fall for them...

What we DON'T usually see are the successful relationships between relatively healthy people who then disappear from the dating pool for a long time!

This means the activity we're seeing most are from the people meeting up, screwing, FAILING and reentering the same dating pool all over again (often getting more and more frustrated and/or set in their ways.) Unless the only thing they want is meaningless sex, these people are NOT happy - yet they keep attempting the same method and hoping for a better result.


...I may have to work this one out some more when my brain is a little more functional!



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29 Sep 2012, 1:45 am

you know what i just noticed? guy si considered more manly than boys and bad is cosidered more manly than nice. why isnt it nice boy and bad guys lol.


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29 Sep 2012, 7:09 am

From what I have noticed over the years, women want "bad boys" for the excitement of it. They know thta a "bad boy" is going to be uninhibited and hopefully give her new experiences. However, as far as long term relationships, most women seem to want a good man who is going to provide a solid home for them and take care of them.

Summary: Bad boys are the ones that usually get laid all the time, but the good guys get the girl for the long haul.


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29 Sep 2012, 11:42 am

wtfid2 wrote:
you know what i just noticed? guy si considered more manly than boys and bad is cosidered more manly than nice. why isnt it nice boy and bad guys lol.


Probably not "bad guys" because we tend to think of those as the guys superheroes fight when they're saving the world...


BlueMax, I think you're right! That's a logical assumption. Having long-term friends allows me to see their long-term relationships, and I can see how those work. The month long "flings" with "bad boys" are just failed relationships, and I can see why--if someone dated a bad person for too long, it would probably be a very abusive relationship.



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29 Sep 2012, 11:50 am

BlueMax wrote:
^^^ A thought has occurred to me... we see a lot of dating activity happen between the aggressive, jerky, "bad-boy/alpha/beta" type male, and the seemingly-many women who always fall for them...

What we DON'T usually see are the successful relationships between relatively healthy people who then disappear from the dating pool for a long time!

This means the activity we're seeing most are from the people meeting up, screwing, FAILING and reentering the same dating pool all over again (often getting more and more frustrated and/or set in their ways.) Unless the only thing they want is meaningless sex, these people are NOT happy - yet they keep attempting the same method and hoping for a better result.


...I may have to work this one out some more when my brain is a little more functional!


this, you see an airplane crash on the news, you never see a report about all the flights that didn't crash

but the badboy/whatever whine about people dating in a way other people don't like discussion is one we've have a lot of times, there is a lot of dicussion on this topic available


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