Loving someone warts and all; imperfections. Thoughts?

Page 1 of 3 [ 48 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

Cuckooflower
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 4 Oct 2012
Age: 37
Gender: Female
Posts: 348

20 Nov 2012, 10:35 pm

I am just interested, out of general curiosity, about this. I don't have anyone specific in mind, and it is not about my own life as such. This is really something that has interested me for a long time.
I suppose it is borne partly out of a feeling that I am unlovable, and a fear of someone rejecting me because of my many imperfections.
And also, not having had a proper long term intimate relationship, a general interest in how these things are managed in that context, and what people's experiences are.

I suppose I do mean specifically physical imperfections, because of my own hang ups. But also other things about people. Those are very important too.

But really, is it possible to go from feeling like an unlovable monster, to feeling like you are beautiful and lovable?

Do people accept each other's imperfections?

Thoughts, stories, insights......................... ???


_________________
Dime quienes son tus amigos y te diré quien eres


Solvejg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Mar 2011
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,558
Location: gondwana

20 Nov 2012, 10:45 pm

My boyfriend is horribly flawed but It just makes me love him all the more. It just makes him more real.

Some of his "faults" which i really dont see as faults because they compliment him to make him the most perfect man i have ever known.
- he is very overweight
- low self esteem
- doesn't see me very often and has no inclination to
- games too much (probably slight addiction)
- very anti social
- really self critical
- super moody
- looks a lot older then he is
- never takes me on dates and has no inclination to
- has no inclination to introduce me to friends or family
-he is not well off financially
- he is not financially stable
- he is a bit grotty

I would not change him or even wish to. I accept him and love him just as he is. I just wish i got to see him more. :heart:



Cuckooflower
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 4 Oct 2012
Age: 37
Gender: Female
Posts: 348

20 Nov 2012, 10:51 pm

Solvejg wrote:
My boyfriend is horribly flawed but It just makes me love him all the more. It just makes him more real.

Some of his "faults" which i really dont see as faults because they compliment him to make him the most perfect man i have ever known.
- he is very overweight
- low self esteem
- doesn't see me very often and has no inclination to
- games too much (probably slight addiction)
- very anti social
- really self critical
- super moody
- looks a lot older then he is
- never takes me on dates and has no inclination to
- has no inclination to introduce me to friends or family
-he is not well off financially
- he is not financially stable
- he is a bit grotty

I would not change him or even wish to. I accept him and love him just as he is. I just wish i got to see him more. :heart:


Okay, that's a good example of loving someone for exactly what they are, not in spite of what they are or for some other reason altogether, like what they could be or what you wish them to be etc....
I find that really interesting. And it's nice to hear!
Does he appreciate being so well loved?


_________________
Dime quienes son tus amigos y te diré quien eres


Solvejg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Mar 2011
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,558
Location: gondwana

20 Nov 2012, 11:01 pm

Cuckooflower wrote:
Solvejg wrote:
My boyfriend is horribly flawed but It just makes me love him all the more. It just makes him more real.

Some of his "faults" which i really dont see as faults because they compliment him to make him the most perfect man i have ever known.
- he is very overweight
- low self esteem
- doesn't see me very often and has no inclination to
- games too much (probably slight addiction)
- very anti social
- really self critical
- super moody
- looks a lot older then he is
- never takes me on dates and has no inclination to
- has no inclination to introduce me to friends or family
-he is not well off financially
- he is not financially stable
- he is a bit grotty

I would not change him or even wish to. I accept him and love him just as he is. I just wish i got to see him more. :heart:


Okay, that's a good example of loving someone for exactly what they are, not in spite of what they are or for some other reason altogether, like what they could be or what you wish them to be etc....
I find that really interesting. And it's nice to hear!
Does he appreciate being so well loved?


No he doesn't like it. He can't understand why i love him and he is unsure if he will ever recipricate the emotions. I am ok with this as i would hate someone to lie to me or tell me they love me when they are unsure if they ever could. I hold out hope that oneday his feelings of attraction and the fact he likes and admires me will progress into a deeper emotion or that he may already feel it but process his emotions a bit better.

I have the feeling what he thinks is love is his interpritation on "first love" or "limerence style love". If this is the case he will never say he is in Love as he will associate the wrong emotions to the what i mean when i say it. I associate the words love as a more familiaral style emotion. This is where the differance and interperetation on the words can mean differant things.



Last edited by Solvejg on 20 Nov 2012, 11:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Blammo
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 9 Sep 2012
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 217
Location: Chico, California

20 Nov 2012, 11:02 pm

without flaws we would all be boring and the same.

flaws are what make us who we are. along with our strong points too though.

yin and yang.

my girlfriend is not perfect by any means, but I love her more because of this.


_________________
Since everyone else has this on their signatures.. might as well conform:

Your Aspie score: 121 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 107 of 200 You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits


Comp_Geek_573
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Sep 2011
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 699

20 Nov 2012, 11:13 pm

Solvejg wrote:
Cuckooflower wrote:
Solvejg wrote:
My boyfriend is horribly flawed but It just makes me love him all the more. It just makes him more real.

Some of his "faults" which i really dont see as faults because they compliment him to make him the most perfect man i have ever known.
- he is very overweight
- low self esteem
- doesn't see me very often and has no inclination to
- games too much (probably slight addiction)
- very anti social
- really self critical
- super moody
- looks a lot older then he is
- never takes me on dates and has no inclination to
- has no inclination to introduce me to friends or family
-he is not well off financially
- he is not financially stable
- he is a bit grotty

I would not change him or even wish to. I accept him and love him just as he is. I just wish i got to see him more. :heart:


Okay, that's a good example of loving someone for exactly what they are, not in spite of what they are or for some other reason altogether, like what they could be or what you wish them to be etc....
I find that really interesting. And it's nice to hear!
Does he appreciate being so well loved?


No he doesn't like it. He can't understand why i love him and he is unsure if he will ever recipricate the emotions. I am ok with this as i would hate someone to lie to me or tell me they love me when they are unsure if they ever could. I hold out hope that oneday his feelings of attraction and the fact he likes and admires me will progress into a deeper emotion or that he may already feel it but process his emotions a bit better.

I have the feeling what he thinks is love is his interpritation on "first love" or "limerence style love". If this is the case he will never say he is in Love as he will associate the wrong emotions to the what i mean when i say it. I associate the words love as a more familiaral style emotion. This is where the differance and interperetation on the words can mean differant things.


Heck, I'm not even sure what emotion to truly call love! They say I'll "know it when it happens" but I doubt it... I might have to just admit uncertainty with the next person I'm thinking of getting with, even if it's unromantic...


_________________
Your Aspie score: 98 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 103 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits
AQ: 33


thewhitrbbit
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 May 2012
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,124

21 Nov 2012, 1:13 am

It happens, no one is perfect.

The above post may be a more extreme example, but yeah it happens.



DialAForAwesome
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Oct 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,189
Location: That place with the thing

21 Nov 2012, 6:27 am

As much as it seems wrong, wtfid2 actually hit the nail on the head.
It's very rare these days for anyone who's not middle-aged to accept someone else's flaws. Especially really big ones.

And believe me, I should know. :(


_________________
I don't trust anyone because I'm cynical.
I'm cynical because I don't trust anyone.


Solvejg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Mar 2011
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,558
Location: gondwana

21 Nov 2012, 6:31 am

DialAForAwesome wrote:
As much as it seems wrong, wtfid2 actually hit the nail on the head.
It's very rare these days for anyone who's not middle-aged to accept someone else's flaws. Especially really big ones.

And believe me, I should know. :(


We are about the same age. maybe it is just the people you know?



DialAForAwesome
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Oct 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,189
Location: That place with the thing

21 Nov 2012, 7:23 am

If it is just the people, I am screwed anyway. I can't leave the state. :wink:

Oh and I just realized that it seemed like, because of the order of the posts, that I called you middle-aged. :oops: I wasn't directing that at you, Solvejg. :P

Nothing wrong with middle-aged women anyway, they're just too old for me and I don't have the patience to wait to catch up in age.


_________________
I don't trust anyone because I'm cynical.
I'm cynical because I don't trust anyone.


Solvejg
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Mar 2011
Age: 38
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,558
Location: gondwana

21 Nov 2012, 7:30 am

I meant i am not middle aged and i accept my boyfriend warts and all. I have been through the whole marriage and kid thing already though so it isn't like i am like most people my age just getting out of the club scene and settling with their first move in partner :shrug:



DialAForAwesome
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Oct 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,189
Location: That place with the thing

21 Nov 2012, 8:03 am

That's why I got embarrassed, because I wasn't trying to say you were middle-aged. :P Not like it matters anyway, any lady who would maybe possibly accept me (I doubt it) would be halfway across the world and I'd never see her, so it's a moot point.


_________________
I don't trust anyone because I'm cynical.
I'm cynical because I don't trust anyone.


FMX
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Mar 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,319

21 Nov 2012, 9:03 am

Solvejg wrote:
My boyfriend is horribly flawed but It just makes me love him all the more. It just makes him more real.

Some of his "faults" which i really dont see as faults because they compliment him to make him the most perfect man i have ever known.
- he is very overweight
- low self esteem
- doesn't see me very often and has no inclination to
- games too much (probably slight addiction)
- very anti social
- really self critical
- super moody
- looks a lot older then he is
- never takes me on dates and has no inclination to
- has no inclination to introduce me to friends or family
-he is not well off financially
- he is not financially stable
- he is a bit grotty

I would not change him or even wish to. I accept him and love him just as he is. I just wish i got to see him more. :heart:


That's interesting, but... I want to clarify, do you actually love him because of these traits or do you love him for despite them for some of his other traits (that you haven't listed)? I mean, I can understand being attracted to some of these (eg. overweight, looks older - those are matter of preference), but are you saying you would be less attracted to him if he was less moody or better off financially or less grotty? If so, why is that?



CrazyStarlightRedux
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2012
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,028
Location: Manchester, UK.

21 Nov 2012, 9:39 am

Solvejg wrote:
My boyfriend is horribly flawed but It just makes me love him all the more. It just makes him more real.

Some of his "faults" which i really dont see as faults because they compliment him to make him the most perfect man i have ever known.
- he is very overweight
- low self esteem
- doesn't see me very often and has no inclination to
- games too much (probably slight addiction)
- very anti social
- really self critical
- super moody
- looks a lot older then he is
- never takes me on dates and has no inclination to
- has no inclination to introduce me to friends or family
-he is not well off financially
- he is not financially stable
- he is a bit grotty

I would not change him or even wish to. I accept him and love him just as he is. I just wish i got to see him more. :heart:


I can't see how that would work out if he has no indication of returning it to you...sounds like nothing will come off it.


_________________
Just a guy who gives advice and talks a lot.


Vintagegirl
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 15 Nov 2012
Gender: Female
Posts: 246

21 Nov 2012, 10:35 am

Yes, because no one is perfect.



Boxman108
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Jan 2012
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,832
Location: NH

21 Nov 2012, 10:48 am

It seems to be impossible for me to find someone who would be that accepting. Feels like the world is a lot more superficial now than ever, perhaps due to things like school and media.

But then I also wonder if I'd be any better. I'd like to think I could give a lot of people a chance, but I haven't really been given any myself. Guess I have to admit I'd be lying if I wouldn't enjoy hurting someone else for once, or that I wouldn't get satisfaction out of telling someone who's obsessed with me that they aren't good enough. Some sick sense of vengeance, I suppose.


_________________
About suffering they were never wrong,
The Old Masters: how well they understood
Its human position; how it takes place
While someone else is eating or opening a window or
just walking dully along...