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21 Dec 2006, 9:19 pm

Hi, to begin, I am new here. I have not been officially diagnosed with aspergers, but on 4 online tests I have taken, I have come out at the very high end, which boggles me somewhat, as I have been in love with someone with probably aspergers for the last 7 months, and only realised the descriptions fit me when I started reading up on it. My ex was aspergers, but because I had been diagnosed with another disorder and because I feel intense emotions and can express them in writing, I assumed I couldnt possibly be so.


Anyway, in spite of probably having it myself, I am having great difficulty understanding this man. To give a few details on him, he has a routine where he spends every day between the local library and one large store where he seems to feel secure and talks to certain staff members and random customers. He has a habit of sometimes bouncing up and down when he talks. He flaps his hands sometimes when he is walking. He moves around a lot... he rarely sits down for long periods. He spends much time copying things into notebooks and is a collector of things, especially antiques. He is highly intelligent.

Anyway, basically, when I first started liking him, I had no idea what to do so I would simply try and be where he was, spending more time in the store, and watch. And I already skated in the park he walks thro to go home, so I would also see him there. He hardly seemed to notice me until one day he gave me a wonderful smile. Next day, I made a gross error. I was stood in the same park, chatting to two men...just acquaintances..and one waved to him. Right after that, he went and told someone he knew spoke to me, that if I spoke to him he would smash my face in.
Soon after, I asked another friend who he spoke to also to help, so she asked him why he wouldnt talk to me and told him I liked him. His response was confusing. He told her that he didnt want to know me, didnt want to talk to me, didnt want anyone in his head..and that he would flush my head down the toilet if I spoke to him..but he also said to her that he would talk to me if she had me sit down...then he changed his mind, said he couldnt and fled. For months, he would avoid me. He would cross over to not have to pass me, he would move if I sat near me, yet at times, he would also walk all round the library to look for where I was. It was very confusing.

In last 2 months, he has been more settled and gone back to his routine. We cross paths every day, and I have heard that at the same time as he said he didnt want to know me, he also told a lady that he had an admirer he liked a lot. His behaviour is totally conflicting to me. A lot of days, he seems to see me but acts as if he doesnt...and shows indifference. But other days, he hovers around me and turns up wherever I happen to be. On one occasion, I was sat out in the main street in the evening...as we both talk to people in the store quite late, and I caught sight of him darting behind a pillar, and then coming out and looking my way. Then he paced, and then he walked off swinging a deer antler he had got for his collection, looking frustrated. Another time, he played a game when we were both walking along the same road into town...where he kept going into the road before mine, and popping out of a side road in front of me. Yet another time, he came to watch me while I dozed in the library... I heard him come over twice before he sat back down.

So, my question is...what am I to make of this behaviour? I know he has been alone over 10 years. I know a woman he had an intense relationship with, left him. He is in his 40s. I am 31. He has even referred to me as a stalker one day, yet hovered around me the next. How am I to know if he is interested, playing games or what? I really do love this man, and he is aware of that because he has had letters and he took poems that I left him that I had written..and even showed them to others.

I tried talking to him once recently, and he just looked up at me, then looked back down at his lap and started messing around with a bottle off aftershave. He seemed to just...detach. Afterwards, he got up apparently, and crossed the store to look to where I was twice. I have asked for a note, or for him to have someone else tell me if he isnt interested, but none has been forthcoming. I am hopeless myself at initiating further contact and find myself too afraid to go near him generally, let alone attempt to speak again.

This is 7 months now I have been waiting and hoping...am I hoping fruitlessly?

Thanks in advance to those who manage to wade their way through this lot lol.



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21 Dec 2006, 10:18 pm

his behavior sounds kind of odd...

do you know for sure he has AS? maybe it's something else? bipolar or anything? i'd say he has severe anxiety issues to say the least...

not sure what to do, cause he seems to be aware of your interests...

can you get him anything for his collections or interests? try engaging him with his interests.

or maybe even give him a note that clearly states you like him and all and that you're confused whether he likes you or not... cause people with AS (based off of my own knowledge) have trouble divining any social interaction and it helps to be very clear about things.

other than that... i'm at a loss...


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22 Dec 2006, 12:00 am

You don't love this man. You have an infatuation, possibly a limerent episode. You have to admit this to yourself before you can let this go, which is what you need to do. How can you even think that you really love him when you don't even talk to him and have to find out about him from other people? Now, I don't care if it's just talk or not but anyone who threatens violence should be immediately dismissed from consideration for a romantic or any other relationship. Seriously. Please consider these things and be safe.



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22 Dec 2006, 12:07 am

I agree with Brian. He sounds a bit dangerous.



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22 Dec 2006, 1:25 am

The guy's behavior is odd, the way you describe it, it kinda sounds like he might feel something towards you, but it's not really certain what that something is. It might be feelings for you, or it might be something more sinister. You and he don't really talk to each other, but the only words you've gotten from him (albeit indirectly) have been violent and negative, and that is definitely not a good sign at all. Maybe he has feelings for you and is unable, for whatever reason, to handle those emotions in a positive, more productive manner. The thing is, it's not your responsibility to teach him how to do it, either. He may not take to something like that well at all, so if I were you, I'd err on the side of caution and not proceed any further with this guy. If he has problems dealing with feelings right now, you put yourself at considerable risk by trying to pursue any kind of romantic relationship with him. He appears to have threatened physical harm to you if you even do so much as talk to him directly, so take that at face value and walk away. There's just something extremely wrong with this situation, and I think it's him, not you.


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23 Dec 2006, 5:33 pm

His threats do not bother me, apart from the fact they were said in anger, and in response to something, and were said way back in the end of May. I have spoken to him and he only looked at me. He is not a violent man. I am sure many on here have said unpleasant things in anger. I know I have, but it doesnt mean I intended on carrying them out.

As to infatuation...well, really, most people, when they first 'fall in love' suffer infatuation to one degree or another, that is well known. No one can speak for my the feelings of another. Unless you are me, you cannot know if it is love or infatuation or that other descriptive used. I have always been able to feel for people without needing to know them via conversation. It happens that way with some people. What I was seeking was some insight on whether this man sounds to be aspergers or some other autistic spectrum disorder, and how having one of these might affect his behaviour towards someone showing interest in him. Although I can see certain similarities in my behaviour and his, other things are not ways I behave,