Fixating on girl who gave me a cello lesson

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10 Dec 2012, 10:33 am

Hey guys, I've seen a few topics on here about obsessing over a girl, or guy if you're a girl. I have a problem in that, I started trying to play the cello, and I waited awhile but I finaly got a lesson because it's pretty overwhelming. Anyway the lesson did go good, I was worried it wouldn't be worth it but I kept asking questions.

The thing is, she seemed pretty nice and talkative, and friendly and apparently afterward I was like, feeling odd, like very elated like happy almost like a high feeling. I mean, usually I'm very quiet so I guess it was cool to talk to someone and stuff, and I do want some friends. But then like a day or two afterward I had that like, feeling like I had a weird crush on her or something. Not sure why. I guess cause usually girls that I find interesting or kinda attractive I don't talk to.

The problem is, I have a girlfriend, lol, even though we've been having problems and we actually were/are like talking about just being friends, we've had this talk a few times now. I was saying ill look for a place of my own, just havent really gone about it yet. Idk I was waiting because I was hoping we'd do better, since we're giving eachother more space now. We've been just like feeling kinda unhappy with our relationship and living situtaion lately, like we just clash and/or don't have enough in common, but still, I feel dumb thinking about that girl a lot.

Any advice? I was only going to get a lesson like once a month. Of course after I started feeling that way I wanted another lesson sooner but I'd rather not spend as much money basically, since idk if I need a lot of lessons.



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10 Dec 2012, 10:36 am

Just because a girl is nice and talkative doesn't mean she wants to go out with you. If you can't control your fixation, I'd recommend getting another teacher.


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10 Dec 2012, 11:06 am

shiflimtamfloo wrote:
Hey guys, I've seen a few topics on here about obsessing over a girl, or guy if you're a girl. I have a problem in that, I started trying to play the cello, and I waited awhile but I finaly got a lesson because it's pretty overwhelming. Anyway the lesson did go good, I was worried it wouldn't be worth it but I kept asking questions.

The thing is, she seemed pretty nice and talkative, and friendly and apparently afterward I was like, feeling odd, like very elated like happy almost like a high feeling. I mean, usually I'm very quiet so I guess it was cool to talk to someone and stuff, and I do want some friends. But then like a day or two afterward I had that like, feeling like I had a weird crush on her or something. Not sure why. I guess cause usually girls that I find interesting or kinda attractive I don't talk to.

The problem is, I have a girlfriend, lol, even though we've been having problems and we actually were/are like talking about just being friends, we've had this talk a few times now. I was saying ill look for a place of my own, just havent really gone about it yet. Idk I was waiting because I was hoping we'd do better, since we're giving eachother more space now. We've been just like feeling kinda unhappy with our relationship and living situtaion lately, like we just clash and/or don't have enough in common, but still, I feel dumb thinking about that girl a lot.

Any advice? I was only going to get a lesson like once a month. Of course after I started feeling that way I wanted another lesson sooner but I'd rather not spend as much money basically, since idk if I need a lot of lessons.


Having just read the section on emotions in Tony Atwood's Complete Guide to Aspergers Syndrome and from personal experience I'll try to offer a little advice.

You're probably feeling affectionate towards her, not entirely sexual, but more like you really want to trust them and make them happy, those sorts of things. Aspie emotions can be a bit black and white until you learn to establish different levels to them. Which makes crushes actually really, really, brutal for male aspies. You can end up feeling something you're not familiar with, not really having a spectrum of friends and family relationships to draw on. Sometimes never really being able to understand other people's affection (like your mothers) beforehand. Unfortunately, your cello teacher probably feels nothing like you do towards her, which can really mess up the dynamics (ha ha) between you two. How much people are reciprocating affection is something that has to be learned through social cues.

Your teacher might just be a friendly person, and that is an aspect that makes for a successful teacher. I would seriously consider getting another teacher, or you're going to need help with this. Unfortunately my talented self probably doesn't live near you (and I've never given a lesson before).



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10 Dec 2012, 11:48 am

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Just because a girl is nice and talkative doesn't mean she wants to go out with you. If you can't control your fixation, I'd recommend getting another teacher.


Yeah... I'm not an idiot. What I wanted was to have someone maybe relay their experience and give some advice. I'm not that worried, like I said, having a lesson a month (maybe) isn't like I'm obsessing over her. I thought that someone who has felt like this about someone and dealt with it could relay advice. Didn't expect such a blunt response.



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10 Dec 2012, 11:53 am

rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
Just because a girl is nice and talkative doesn't mean she wants to go out with you. If you can't control your fixation, I'd recommend getting another teacher.



I AGREE! That kind of fixation is common with our folk - aspies! It will pass. It's actually a developemental delay - we still have a bit of that lonely little kid in us that responds to a type of respect and kindness that we seldom receive. Get a different teacher and drown yourself in those lessons. It's something to look forward to...and to master. And the girfriend who just wants to be friends - forget her. Focus on yourself.



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10 Dec 2012, 11:55 am

Two things. I love the topics title and I would also like to have your problem, :pig:



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10 Dec 2012, 12:00 pm

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shiflimtamfloo wrote:
Hey guys, I've seen a few topics on here about obsessing over a girl, or guy if you're a girl. I have a problem in that, I started trying to play the cello, and I waited awhile but I finaly got a lesson because it's pretty overwhelming. Anyway the lesson did go good, I was worried it wouldn't be worth it but I kept asking questions.

The thing is, she seemed pretty nice and talkative, and friendly and apparently afterward I was like, feeling odd, like very elated like happy almost like a high feeling. I mean, usually I'm very quiet so I guess it was cool to talk to someone and stuff, and I do want some friends. But then like a day or two afterward I had that like, feeling like I had a weird crush on her or something. Not sure why. I guess cause usually girls that I find interesting or kinda attractive I don't talk to.

The problem is, I have a girlfriend, lol, even though we've been having problems and we actually were/are like talking about just being friends, we've had this talk a few times now. I was saying ill look for a place of my own, just havent really gone about it yet. Idk I was waiting because I was hoping we'd do better, since we're giving eachother more space now. We've been just like feeling kinda unhappy with our relationship and living situtaion lately, like we just clash and/or don't have enough in common, but still, I feel dumb thinking about that girl a lot.

Any advice? I was only going to get a lesson like once a month. Of course after I started feeling that way I wanted another lesson sooner but I'd rather not spend as much money basically, since idk if I need a lot of lessons.


Having just read the section on emotions in Tony Atwood's Complete Guide to Aspergers Syndrome and from personal experience I'll try to offer a little advice.

You're probably feeling affectionate towards her, not entirely sexual, but more like you really want to trust them and make them happy, those sorts of things. Aspie emotions can be a bit black and white until you learn to establish different levels to them. Which makes crushes actually really, really, brutal for male aspies. You can end up feeling something you're not familiar with, not really having a spectrum of friends and family relationships to draw on. Sometimes never really being able to understand other people's affection (like your mothers) beforehand. Unfortunately, your cello teacher probably feels nothing like you do towards her, which can really mess up the dynamics (ha ha) between you two. How much people are reciprocating affection is something that has to be learned through social cues.

Your teacher might just be a friendly person, and that is an aspect that makes for a successful teacher. I would seriously consider getting another teacher, or you're going to need help with this. Unfortunately my talented self probably doesn't live near you (and I've never given a lesson before).

Lol, thanks. I've been on and off with even thinking I do have any autism/aspergers. But I did have a crush type thing on a girl I worked with during grad school, and that got very bad. I could barely eat. But eventually I could tell she was starting to get nervous about if I liked her that way, so I cooled off. And I saw things in her that I didn't like anyway. IT really seems like I just have to picture them as the whole picture, annoying traits and all. I really don't know if I'd know if a girl was liking me that way though, unless it was on a date. I feel like I can manage this, though. I mean I am pretty sure she doesn't 'like' me that way, so I'll get over it. Plus I shouldn't really feel that way about a teacher so I agree. And honestly, her advice seems like it just confused me a little, since when I looked things up online I think she told me a different way to do things that conflict with a bunch of things I saw online about playing, so i dont know.

Another thing is I have been wanting to like, play music with someone who plays cello and/or violin, which she does. I have been writing some music that includes violin and cello, but I haven't played either so I was wanting to maybe try playing with someone that does, but obviously if I still have an annoying 'crush' on the person it wouldn't work lol.



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10 Dec 2012, 1:47 pm

I feel ya; I've gotten that way with almost any gal who's particularly kind-hearted or attractive. For example, the dental hygienist who I see once every six months; she's quite attractive and shockingly easy to talk too. After our first appointment, I couldn't stop thinking about her since, as people have stated, it was such a unique experience for me...luckily, I've been through this a hundred previous times ranging from nurses to Subway employees to therapists, and know to mostly discard any idea that they might reciprocate those feelings and that it's just a temporary reaction on my part. I mean, to be fair, there's always a chance that they COULD have feelings; everyone's human, but it's so unlikely, especially in those environments, that I know it's not worth my energy.


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10 Dec 2012, 4:03 pm

Ha, yeah the title was kinda funny in a way I think. I didn't wanna say 'obsessing' because it's not like im texting or calling her. Don't be jealous though, its sad that me and my g/f now are so on and off and this is just stupid. But yeah I'm being very cautious now esp after getting some feedback on here. It's pretty depressing that I would just feel this way with most likely the other person not at all feeling like that. Makes me more cynical than I already am, about like, 'love at first sight' or whatever. I'm just wondering if I'd ever feel that way and then have it returned back, I think it would be the best feeling ever, even if the relationship didn't last.
Next lesson I'll just confront her about it like Carrie in homeland and tell her were meant to be together, and see how that goes jk. 8O 8O 8O 8O
But I don't know, I'm feeling a lot less like focused on this girl now so I'm getting more confident that I could just view her as just the cello teacher. It would be cool to be friends with her and just not feel any feelings toward her because then at least I'll be more comfortable not like getting a crush on any girl I talk to like some little kid. I'll probably at least do one more lesson and if it's still bad, I'll space out the lessons more or something, but honestly there's no other cello teachers around here I can find.



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11 Dec 2012, 2:44 pm

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I feel ya; I've gotten that way with almost any gal who's particularly kind-hearted or attractive. For example, the dental hygienist who I see once every six months; she's quite attractive and shockingly easy to talk too. After our first appointment, I couldn't stop thinking about her since, as people have stated, it was such a unique experience for me...luckily, I've been through this a hundred previous times ranging from nurses to Subway employees to therapists, and know to mostly discard any idea that they might reciprocate those feelings and that it's just a temporary reaction on my part. I mean, to be fair, there's always a chance that they COULD have feelings; everyone's human, but it's so unlikely, especially in those environments, that I know it's not worth my energy.


Thanks for this feedback. Sounds like me, but usually I rarely talk to people even girls in a setting like this because I just don't think it matters I guess or don't think they're that interesting. I guess in this case I did, because I'm obviously into someone liking/playing violin and cello. I keep thinking about it, only cause I keep thinking I'll try next time to like, act more interested in what she says. But the more I think back on it, it does seem more like she was interested cause she was asking me questions, but just in a friendly way. The only thing is I keep thinking that I didn't respond back to what she said about herself I just asked her about where she worked, but kinda only cause I was interested in what it would be like working there. The whole time I was just thinking, I don't wanna like this girl, she's just my teacher, so I purposely didn't act that interested and I asked more about the cello and stuff. I'm thinking next time I'll just try acting more interested or ask about stuff she says about herself? I just thought it was worth a shot, but I'm banking on it not feeling like anything other than being friendly.

So you're saying that it doesn't get easier to avoid feeling like this just interacting with girls?



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12 Dec 2012, 4:24 pm

I would recommend following your teachers advice even if its dissimilar to what you find on the internets. Teachers can vary in style and what they teach. A good site to look at is www.cello.org.

A lot of technique is relaxing and being comfortable. Don't stress out too much over what is good technique. Good technique is whatever works and you're comfortable with.

Even if you're thoughts are not being "oh shes wonderful," and thoughts are trying to rationalize things. They can still be intrusive and lead to anxiety. Just be careful.



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12 Dec 2012, 5:33 pm

TornadoEvil wrote:
I would recommend following your teachers advice even if its dissimilar to what you find on the internets. Teachers can vary in style and what they teach. A good site to look at is www.cello.org.

A lot of technique is relaxing and being comfortable. Don't stress out too much over what is good technique. Good technique is whatever works and you're comfortable with.

Even if you're thoughts are not being "oh shes wonderful," and thoughts are trying to rationalize things. They can still be intrusive and lead to anxiety. Just be careful.


Thanks, thats true because the more I practice I noticed that I was focusing way too much on technique in exactly doing what she said at first, but then just went with what I felt and it got better.
I agree for sure about that. I think I just like got along well with her and it felt great to like talk to someone like that cause I haven't in awhile, I work from home too even if I wanted to talk to coworkers lol. The more days that go by the more I think more rationally about it. I'm probably buying an electric cello soon because I only rented an acoustic one to see what it would be like, but I do like it but it's loud, and I'm not sure where I'll be living shortly. Figured I could just get a pretty good electric one and eventually get an acoustic one if I play it out or in some group or something. Not sure if this will affect the lessons though.



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12 Dec 2012, 6:54 pm

I love listening to people who play the cello. Wish I could listen to you. You also sound like a nice guy. Good luck :)



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20 Dec 2012, 11:22 am

Just an update.... I have been talking with my teacher because I left a VM about how the rented cello is due back this week, and I'm not sure if I want an electric or acoustic... she got back to me about what I should get, then found me an acoustic cello that she can get for a teachers discount but only before christmas. So we went back and forth and I asked her stuff about it, then decided last night to get it. I'll just have to like give her a check tonight when she's teaching, I was gonna go in for a lesson but I won't have a cello this week anyway.

I thought it was cool she got back to me in such detail and helped me out like that, but I'm being careful not to read stuff into it, since it seems like just she wants to help out a student since cellos are so expensive. Had to call her last night to figure out how to pay her, etc. She said she doesn't normally do this since she's nervous about the store owner finding out (store where she teaches) and doesn't want to like, deflect business, but wants to help out since cellos are a lot. I'm positive she's just being helpful to a student, yet still on and off I've had to fight feelings of like, having a crush or whatever it is. It's so stupid. I'm glad I'm not getting a lesson until I at least get the new cello, so I don't think about her in that way over christmas lol.