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11 May 2013, 1:08 pm

Sorry if I am rambling, but I am just angry. I went out today, trying to hit on chicks, and absolutely no freakin chicks in town. And even if there were, I am nervous as hell, not knowing if I should go "zen" (not think , just do), or "be myself" (whatever the hell that means). Then I tried asking, albeit annoyingly, and I was banned, but at least not on the forum. Add to that, people say be your self, but this f*****g nagging feeling keeps nagging me. I dont know if it is dating or wtf, but I wish I could release what I have to say, but I am worried I will sound like an idiot. Be yourself. God , I wonder if I could get some medicinal pot. Maybe I'll ask my doctor, because it is depressing the hell out of me. But there have been some promising signs. On the way to the library the other day, there was one chick who drove by two times, and I waved each. Another was rubbing her face like she had a beard, but wa sprobably because of my shave. I said hi and whats up. The girls giggled, but they were in a car, and I was checki g to see where my "date" was (long story). I am sorry, I just struggling with"who I am". Do people really want to hear my s**t about counter economics, finance, baseball, stocks, my f****d up humor (think George Carlin and Doug Stanhope), my f*****g treaties on things, or my next idea to change the world? Thanks for bearing withme. :D



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11 May 2013, 1:26 pm

zacb wrote:
... just struggling with"who I am". Do people really want to hear my sh** about counter economics, finance, baseball, stocks, my f**** up humor (think George Carlin and Doug Stanhope), my f***ing treaties on things, or my next idea to change the world?

Possibly not, but what matters is that you are interested in this stuff. If you are enthusiastic about something, it might rub off on someone else or it might not. I think "being yourself" means pursuing what interests you and makes you happy - if this leads you to meet someone, that's great; but there are no "on demand" girlfriends.



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11 May 2013, 1:37 pm

That is true. I guess I wish this nagging feeling would go away. It taunts me. If it were a person, it would probably be dead. Idk how to explain it. I dont care what fills that, I just wish it were gone. I just wish I could express my ideas.



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11 May 2013, 1:48 pm

Is it anxiety? Dread? Social anxiety? Insecurity?

It isn't easy to approach people or make friends...don't be too rough on yourself.



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11 May 2013, 2:04 pm

Well, it is like I have something I want to release, but I can't, less I sound like a freaking Einstein. I want partner in crime, change the world, and scare the hell out of some people ( in a good way, like creating the next twitter, or such). I would like to talk about my ideas or such, but I dont think people wan tto hear them, like one idea I had to advance Agorism ( form of Libertarian anarchism). There is this one guy I met on that one forum (pua) and he might be up for it, and likes the vision. I have all these ideas, but my mom gets overwhelmed, and my dad is gone, otherwise I would ask him. Idk. In all honest, my goals in life straddle somewhere between a hacktivist revolutionary, creating sites and apps that brings about a stateless society, and a venture capitalist, buying up undervalued.companies. I just wish I could release my radical side, but not many ave.s .



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11 May 2013, 5:04 pm

zacb wrote:
... trying to hit on chicks, ... I am nervous as hell

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not knowing if I should go "zen" (not think , just do), or "be myself" (whatever the hell that means).

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...but I am worried I will sound like an idiot.

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But there have been some promising signs. On the way to the library the other day, there was one chick who drove by two times, and I waved each. Another was rubbing her face like she had a beard, but wa sprobably because of my shave. I said hi and whats up. The girls giggled,

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I just struggling with"who I am".

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Do people really want to hear my sh** about counter economics, finance, baseball, stocks, my f**** up humor (think George Carlin and Doug Stanhope), my f***ing treaties on things, or my next idea to change the world?

      NO!
not people in the street, outta 7billion you'll eventually probably find over the next few decades a half-dozen people that will be very interested.

Welcome to bean a genius.
it sux.

ur only chance: watch my little pony - friendship is magic, try to act like pinkie pie. you might not get more babes but at least you'll have fun at it.
or b) lobotomy


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11 May 2013, 5:44 pm

I appreciate the help. In all honesty, I am wondering if I should just be a freggin playboy, but then the issue of whether the costs would be worth it arises. And people say dont think about it. What about if your brain thinks all the time? I am trying PUA on for size, but I was frustrated with the results today. I have been trying to at least talk to women, but I cant help but think I am making an ass of myself. If it were not collee here, I would leave. But I will try to pull myself up, and approach. I don't know how useful it will be, but I will keep trying. Hopefully, a contact contacts me back. God, why.....



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11 May 2013, 5:52 pm

Just don't care.



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11 May 2013, 7:17 pm

You're going through an awkward, embarrassing stage of life. I think that's true for everyone at your age, but probably especially so for people like us.

Realize that most people are boring, and are interested in boring things. Try to surround yourself with bright, interesting people. Find genuine people who do things with a full heart.

You may have seen this article, but it kind of blew my mind when I read it. Well worth checking out if you haven't: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-tru ... er-person/

I haven't ever investigated PUA and I'm not interested in picking up girls at a club. However, I would bet it's a treasure trove of information on how to behave in a social environment for those of us to whom it may not come naturally. Whether it works for you or not, at worst, you're gaining experience and learning things. Keep at it, IMO.

Life's hard. You'll be alright.



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11 May 2013, 11:07 pm

I can't give you advice how to get a girlfriend, but I could help you talk to the ladies. and maybe make a female friend, but I think you want a girlfriend,
so anyways. I just go up to any women and just talk to them. That all I really do. I have no game plan, But make sure you look at them. and don't spit on them,
and don't say anyting too sexual around them. I don't know, Im not ''ladie magnet'' either, so good luck.



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12 May 2013, 12:46 am

i just cant stand women. they always give excuses for me and its annoying, but i just try to wonder if their is a girl for me out there or not, anyway they are really annoying with their busy s**t.


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12 May 2013, 1:44 am

That 'youthful energy' (pardon the cliche) will serve you well. Just need to channel it.

As contrary to what you have described as this sounds, something like zen study or meditation might serve you. With a calmer more in focus mind you could have a bit of clarity on how to begin.

I always had a similar obstacle in that I had many interests and I am not bragging but I am told many abilities, and never could decide where to begin or which to put more energy in.

I never took this advice but I hope that you will: Begin anywhere, everything leads somewhere, and you never stop being who you are. Sometimes it requires building something first before you can really show your talent or change society. Sometimes the way it happens is not how you would've chosen or predicted, but since you never stop being yourself (no one does), you can do that in many circumstances.

Also meditation will help you 'soul search' to figure out if you want to make positive changes or changes through chaos.

ETA: I don't like the Pickup Artist ethos and I don't think the method works for anything except maybe picking up girls who are easy to pick up anyway. Also a woman who isn't very confident but happens to be beautiful will not respond to 'negging.' It could even harm her self esteem.



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12 May 2013, 10:31 am

Popsicle wrote:
ETA: I don't like the Pickup Artist ethos and I don't think the method works for anything except maybe picking up girls who are easy to pick up anyway. Also a woman who isn't very confident but happens to be beautiful will not respond to 'negging.' It could even harm her self esteem.


Just googled "negging". Wtf? Sounds terrible. Don't do that IMO.

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i just cant stand women. they always give excuses for me and its annoying, but i just try to wonder if their is a girl for me out there or not, anyway they are really annoying with their busy sh**.


They are giving you excuses because they aren't interested in you. They're just too nice to say it bluntly.



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12 May 2013, 1:34 pm

I feel the same way. This life was ment to be lived, so Live it. If other people don't like who you are them seriously F-them.
Ok so now that's out of the way, (and of course this is all untested) because I basically have no damn social life at all.
But the way I imagine a good Friendship, or Romantic intrests is Organic. and completely Natural, Believe you me If a girl wants to get in your pants sort to speak she will. Woman who are interested in you will find you, it only a matter of time. They will make it known, :wink:

Far as friends are concerned do things, in person. Join a club, convention, anything. You can't really force yourself on someone though. In this game called life it really doesn't work like that. there's a bunch of what I consider useless steps involved for anything involving another person, weigh your options however. Once you do make that connection there is a certain upkeep that needs to be maintained for the other person to not lose intrest in you. Its exhausting, and I gather this is why I'm not more proactive in either

Good luck to you.


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12 May 2013, 2:34 pm

Even NT guys make a$$es out of themselves when trying to pick up chicks. It is somewhat a rite of passage, if you will. After enough practice they build up enough confidence after trial and error to see what works, at least that is my guess. But nobody goes into the game being Mr Smooth right away. And it is a matter of attitude. If you get rebuffed, you don't let it sink in too deep. You pick yourself up, dust yourself off, tell yourself that the girl doesn't know what she's missing (LOL, many guys do that) and try again. It is a numbers game, and if you can laugh it off, your good nature will be infectious. Girls don't usually want to hang around with a guy who seems (1) too desperate, (2) too insecure, (3) too immature, (4) too angry.

Now as far as special interests are concerned, I love special interests because it shows a person has passion. However, the important thing is to segue the topic into conversation smoothly, not out of the blue, and get a cue that the girl is receptive to hearing it. For example:

M: What kinds of things are you interested in? (showing girl you are interested in her)
F: Oh well I like reading, dogs, and scary movies. (she is seeing if you can share her interests)
M: I love reading too! What kinds of things do you read? (you are trying to connect with her through one of her interests--reading)
F: I love XYZ, 1234, abcsdsdsfd, blah blah blah (she is seeing if you can share her interests)
M: Oh, well one day you will have to tell me more about that. I love reading other kinds of things. Not sure if you'd be interested... (showing interest in getting to know her better, but wanting to see if she is interested in you)
F: What kinds of things? (she is being polite/interested)
M: [here you can bring up your special interest]
Make sure when discussing your special interest, you check in constantly with things like, "Oh, am I boring you? We can talk about something else if you like. I just get so worked up about this, just wave your hand if you need me to stop." And most importantly, try to reciprocate. If she lets you ramble on about your interests, let her do the same. If you tune her out and she asks you a pertinent question about what she was talking about you say sweetly, "Oh I'm sorry, I was just distracted by the sound of your voice and watching your lips move. It's so mesmerizing, I couldn't keep track of what you were saying."
Guys have used these lines on me and they worked. I don't know if it was because I'm naive or clueless, or if they would work on NT girls too LOL



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12 May 2013, 3:04 pm

Well, I have no problem asking girls out as far as a warm approach (some experience with them.). Perhaps I should have stated that. I am trying to cold approach.