Really good message

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlHbWwmm_Pw[/youtube]

I came across this video today and I thought it was a really good message to anyone and everyone.

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Keeps mentioning Laci Green, and looks like her younger twin sister.
As for the actual topic, I have nothing to add because it's a hot button in this shitstorm.

I don't see how it's a "hot button in this shitstorm", it's just a video of some girl saying everyone is allowed to say no to sex. I don't see how that could be made into a hot button issue.

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Good video. The only thing that sucks is that this should be such extremely obvious, common sense stuff that it shouldn't even warrant needing to be repeated. It should be as obvious as "don't kill people," or "don't rob banks" but sadly it's not to a lot of people. But yeah, watching that video reminded me of just how much of the inappropriate behavior mentioned in there is pretty much just accepted as status quo.

And I've always been creeped out by guys (or girls) objectifying the bodies of people of the opposite (or the same) gender (though being a guy I've mostly been privy to guys objectifying girls) with talk along the lines of the whole "rating their body on a scale of 1-10" thing. And even then when I was uncomfortable joining in generic overly objectifying "guy talk" about women I was always torn between wondering whether they were repulsive or I just needed to chill out, stop being so asocial, and join in the conversations, because these kind of views are so prevalent and whatnot. Anyways, I don't want to derail this thread with a tangentially related comment on one of her less important points in the video, because it does indeed have a great message.

"unconsciousness mean no"
"not able to walk straight means no"
"throwing up all over yourself because you're so drunk means no"
"crying means no"
"i don't feel like it means no"
"anything that's not a yes, means no"

i like that she used both male and female pronouns in her examples, as well.


PresidentPorpoise, i had a friend who used to feel uncomfortable by the whole "rating" thing, because his tastes were so different from the norm that his friends kind of bullied and cajoled him about it. he didn't like that the women he found attractive would be torn down by his buddies. it became too real when it was about an actual live girl that he fancied.

But what about when girls do this?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4hNaFkbZYU[/youtube]

i've never met a single person who actually wanted to be raped, male or female. the closest i've ever seen was people who have established BDSM contracts with certain safe words, or people who had fantasies or who liked to read fictional accounts. none of those scenarios equate to actually wanting to be raped, which is what he is describing (most comedians tell fictional stories by the way).

people like that may exist just like any other fetish exists, but seeing as how it could put every other person in danger it's not really healthy to encourage it. the speculative existence of that fetish doesn't remove the onus from other people to NOT RAPE. they are really irrelevant to the discussion of consent.