Ugly Girl Entitlement Disorder (UGED) = Nice Guy (TM)?

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27 Jul 2013, 6:02 pm

Unattractive women who feel entitled to a hot rich guy. Just like the nice guy (TM). This is a real thing. It's every bit as widespread as the nice guy (TM) entitled losers who stalk blond models from their mothers' basements.

Male perspective:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/10/ ... standards/

Female perspective. From a well-respected contributor to WP L&D:

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Just like my old colleague who was a girl. She had all these requirements for a guy she would date. The list she told me was as follows:

- She wanted him to have his own place
- She wanted him to have a licence and a car
- She wanted him to have a job
- She wanted him to be mostly independent from his family
- She wanted him to be super religious
- She wanted him to be good looking
- She wanted him to be fit
- She wanted him to be accepting

The problem with all of this? She still lived with her parents. She didn't have a licence or a car. She only had a casual job. She was totally dependent on her family. She was not good looking at all. She was the last thing from fit - very overweight. She was not accepting at all and was very judgemental. She is however, super religious.

When I asked her why any guy would want to sdate her, her answer was "I am me, any guy will be lucky to have me." When I asked what she brought to the table, she said "I am nice and a good person." Yeah - but she only had 1 of the traits in her own list that she actually met. If she has only one, why would a guy like that look twice at her? He won't.

. http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf236238-0-15.html

Can we say this is as widespread as the Nice Guy (TM) problem? Passive male losers without a job who think they are entitled to hot women having sex with them = ugly women--often themselves with a poor paying job, who are out of shape, and have no fashion sense--who think they are entitled to a hot rich guy to marry them.

Then, when they only find men who are as low quality as themselves, or men who are higher quality than themselves who only want them for quick sex, they tend to get bitter against all men.

Nice Girl (TM)

Both Nice Guy (TM) and Nice Girl (TM) are very traditional, old-fashioned, shallow, and nauseating. Right?

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27 Jul 2013, 6:21 pm

You make relationships sound like a business transaction or so. Hot female for hot and steamy sex for rich dentist guy? I'm sorry but I think that you may live in a very different world than I am, because I have actually only seen this in movies and never in the real world. Of course it happens, but that's like such a small percentage of the western society. Most people are just average looking and have an average income.

I can't see why you are so bothered with this?

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27 Jul 2013, 6:25 pm

For those people, relationship ARE a business transaction. But for most people, they are not.

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27 Jul 2013, 6:25 pm

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Not that I would personally do this, but I love the idea of using women like this for sex just to punish them for their raunchy attitude.

Do you also like the idea of attractive women duping less attractive guys into marriage using the promise of forthcoming sex.... then using pre-nuptials to milk them for all they are worth ; as "punishment" for their raunchy attitude ?

Or is that crass, uncalled for, and obnoxious ?
:?:

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27 Jul 2013, 6:27 pm

loveturn wrote:

I see it all the time. Plain women with long lists who complain about not finding a hot rich guy. Their NT girlfriends are usually too nice to tell them they are psychotic.

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27 Jul 2013, 6:29 pm

Ladywoofwoof wrote:

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Not that I would personally do this, but I love the idea of using women like this for sex just to punish them for their raunchy attitude.

Depends on the attitude of the guy. But yes. I am an equal opportunity as*hole. I would not consider myself sexist at all. I am bothered by ANYONE's sense of entitlement.

There's a slightly different situation here too. I do think that many raunchy sexist men who go to the Philippines to find a wife because "American women are not feminine enough" do deserve it when the filipina gets a visa, steals all their money, and files for divorce immediately.

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27 Jul 2013, 7:23 pm

My experience with self-help books, and self worth in general, is that you "must" value yourself in order to be of value to someone else.

If you're looking for patterns like the one you link, then you'll see those pattern everywhere. It's like when you buy a black ute. It's not until you buy one yourself, that you suddenly see that every third car on the road is also a black ute.

I work with a short round woman and she is a beutiful person, inside and out, and her husband loves her.

My Uncle was a short skinny man who married an abese obnoxious woman. The family didn't like her at all, but my uncle loved her dearly.

So... i think your seeing a pattern simply because your seeing a pattern. That doesn't make it a universal law, and perhaps not even as common as you think.

Remember that the girls who put themselves on dating sites are a self selecting group. If you walked into a night club, would you also conclude that all girls are 18, beutiful and wear short skirts?

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27 Jul 2013, 7:45 pm

Does Amazon stock Nice Guy (tm)
:-) I'm doing fine without one, but you know how consumer purchases can be... sometimes it's only once you have something, that you can appreciate how pleasant it is to have around.

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27 Jul 2013, 7:47 pm

Losers always believe they deserve better - that's part of what makes them losers, whether they're male, female, or "It's Complicated".

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27 Jul 2013, 9:51 pm

I guess there are woman out there like that, who do compare with the shallow man, but I think as love turn says, it's mostly in the movies.

I'm an average looking woman who is currently still about 14lb overweight, but I do eat healthy and look after myself. I don't feel a sense of entitlment that you speak of, I have standards though, just like everyone else. I wouldn't date anyone who I'm not attracted to, but some of the people I'm attracted to may not be typically "attractive" in society, but it's important not to "settle" for someone you are not physically attracted to, it's not fair on yourself or them.

I also think everyone is different. I have been guilty of this myself, but if I ever see a ugly man with a attractive woman, or vise versa, I think "how did they get them?" But I shouldn't think that, because they could be very much in love and are very attracted to each other, it's just society won't except it as true love because they are not in the same " league" as each other, which I always thought was a stupid term.

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28 Jul 2013, 1:17 am

I just wanted to note that Heartiste guy is a twat with f****d up ideas, and everyone here would do well to stay the f**k away from that site, lest the sociopathy spread.

[edit] lol twat isn't censored.

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28 Jul 2013, 1:39 am

Shau wrote:

I just wanted to note that Heartiste guy is a twat with f**** up ideas, and everyone here would do well to stay the f**k away from that site, lest the sociopathy spread.

[edit] lol twat isn't censored.

I would hope not !

I joined the twatt appreciation society on Facebook a while back.
I always like to see a nice bit of twatt.

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28 Jul 2013, 1:43 am

Ladywoofwoof wrote:

Does Amazon stock Nice Guy (tm)
:-)

I'm doing fine without one, but you know how consumer purchases can be... sometimes it's only once you have something, that you can appreciate how pleasant it is to have around.

Im pretty sure boo can help you finding one.
If you know what I mean :lol:

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28 Jul 2013, 2:16 am

spongy wrote:

Ladywoofwoof wrote:

Does Amazon stock Nice Guy (tm)
:-)

I'm doing fine without one, but you know how consumer purchases can be... sometimes it's only once you have something, that you can appreciate how pleasant it is to have around.

Im pretty sure boo can help you finding one.
If you know what I mean :lol:

Nah, he would probably just try to sort me out with one of those steroid-buffed guys who he's so fond of.

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28 Jul 2013, 2:34 am

Ladywoofwoof wrote:

Does Amazon stock Nice Guy (tm)
:-)

I'm doing fine without one, but you know how consumer purchases can be... sometimes it's only once you have something, that you can appreciate how pleasant it is to have around.

Nice guy (TM)'s are typically entitled s**t heads who can't understand why any woman would ever say no to sex. Of course, this often leads to making occasional mistakes like rape.

The worst ones are hypersexual bronies who have a collection of kiddie porn. "Nice" usually means passive and beta; it has nothing to do with being a good person or not.

Trust me, you DON'T want one any more than I want these stupid entitled women.

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28 Jul 2013, 3:03 am

Are you sure you have your item in the right packaging ?
I'm pretty sure you have Nice Guy (tm) mixed up with a previous model - WishyWashy a***hole (tm)

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