Nice Girl™

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No, she's not the exact female equivalent of the Nice Guy™, she's not the female Nice Guy™.

A personal experience I mentioned in an old thread (and can't find):

I've been once with a group of female buddies, and they just starting talking about guys, I don't recall clearly but I think one was suggesting the other about a guy X might be fancying and the other girl was like 'eww' and she explained why she wouldn't like him, the only reasons given were physical ("he's too short and skinny") - I am also skinny and short so probably in her mind I am also 'eww' like that guy. Some similar incidents happen before and traits that I have (ie. geeky, short, too timid, have no car...etc) - traits and 'shortcomings' that I do have too.

Some of those girls would unintentionally directly (ie. jokingly tone: "Ha, he's hot, not fat lad like you!") and indirectly let you know that you are 'lesser male' (as less attractive) in their eyes.

In some gatherings I recall, I've noticed those girls never mix up with the guys of 'their type' in all-friends plans unless if there's a set up hidden date (by female friends for a female friend) being cooked - "no don't ask him/them to join in he/they're too hot" - some of the phrases I've heard, those things were more frequent during school and college days.

So let's define the Nice Girl™ , we've heard a lot of Nice Guy™and Nice Guy syndrome in here and in literature but what's really a Nice Girl™?

DEFINITION of Nice Girl™:

A Nice Girl™ is a type of girls who would befriend a male or consider a male as friend ONLY if she doesn't find him any close of attractive for her; she's a girl who would never consider real friendship with a guy that she finds him physically and/or sexually appealing for any reason; usually she would only accept the ones she finds the most sexually unappealing for her.
She often tries to influence the other girls of her circle to not include guys that she find them "disturbingly hot" or attractive into their circle often because for her it would be too awkward.


Common Characteristics of Nice Girl™:

- She's always a single girl: Taken and married girls simply don't exhibit Nice Girl™ behaviour regardless if they were one in the past or not.
- She's usually very picky when it comes to dating the opposite sex.
- They usually LOVE "stereotypically attractive male qualities" such as muscularity, wealth, arrogant confidence ...etc while hating much "stereotypically unattractive male qualities" such as shyness, introvertness, skinniness..etc


The Nice Girl™ FAQ

Do the Nice Girl™ and Nice Guy™ have anything in common?

Yes, they do, they're both not really nice.


What does make Nice Girl™ not really nice?

How would you feel if your same-sex friend thinks of you as an unworthy dating material? or even as "eww" and "yuck" material? Exactly, you wouldn't think of him as a really nice friend - it's for the same reason why the Nice Girl™ not really nice. the Nice Girl™ is not really a nice friend because she thinks less of you as a male; hence as a person too. A true friend, regardless of gender, shouldn't view you as a lesser material/valuable compared to other people and would not be saying things around you that might hurt you.

Also the Nice Girl™ makes friendships with males in a discriminative way (on the attraction basis) as hot vs non-hot; trying to keep the two groups separate: the hot go to potential dates group while the 'ugly'/unattractive ones go the 'just friend guys' group.


is making friendship with a Nice Girl™ worth it,[b] even if your intention is really just friendship and nothing more?[/b]

No and no, because in the long run being with Nice Girl™ would only hurt your self-esteem and your self-image as a male; and she's not really a nice friend so it's not worth it.

Are they many? How many are there of these species out there? :O

I can't tell, but based on my personal experience, there's usually at least 1 Nice Girl™ in any group of female-dominated circle of friends; so yea, i think their existence is frequent.


Happy evening.

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The only thing I'd suggest is not referring to females as being divided by different species.

You know, since Nice Guys tend to think of females as different species.

Sound pretty freaking accurate to me. I've had some friends like that...

"Nice Girls" sounds like those very common ones that pretend to be laid-back and trusting/caring when they're secretly assuming most guys are creeps by default. That goes with how you said they're not genuinely nice people despite the label.

I've only called The Nice Girls as species; I've mocking them.

Can we please for the love of whatever you believe in drop the "Nice" connotation from these? How about we use some actual negative terminology that doesnt hurt people that are sincerely nice. Like for example instead of nice guy we can say white knight. Which actually shows a lot more meaning behind it than simply nice guy.

What's a white knight?


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That's my curious face!

its what you would call a "Nice guy". You know the whole manipulative "niceness" blahblahblah thing. But see, the term white knight doesnt hurt anyone who is a sincere nice person that happens to be a guy.

Common Characteristics of Nice Girl™:

- She's always a single girl: Taken and married girls simply don't exhibit Nice Girl™ behaviour regardless if they were one in the past or not.
- She's usually very picky when it comes to dating the opposite sex.
- They usually LOVE "stereotypically attractive male qualities" such as muscularity, wealth, arrogant confidence ...etc while hating much "stereotypically unattractive male qualities" such as shyness, introvertness, skinniness..etc
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that sound like the type of single girls, I talk to alot.

Yeah, I've heard of the white knight slang before.
I believe it a guy who always sticks up for women, not matter what the women do, is that the meaning?

Other acceptable terms as opposed to "Nice:"

* as*hole
* Captain Save-A-Ho
* White Knight
* Mr./Ms. Doormat
* Douchebag
* Mr./Ms. Spineless

That's all i've got.

nice girl sounds like a ''fake liberal girl''. you know the women who talk about how we should tolerate, and respect other people.
and how men being is shy is not a problem but yet these fake liberal women would never date a shy guy, they only will only date
the so called ''tough guy'' ''hot guy'' types.

I like the term Nice Guy because it is a self-applied label of all the Nice Guys I've ever encountered.


If a guy is actually nice, he generally doesn't have to point it out for people to be aware of it.

Tolerating and respecting people doesn't mean you've implied agreement to date someone.

This.

The trademarked "Nice Guy" label exists because creeps apply it to themselves, usually while moaning and bitching about women. Guys who are genuinely nice are referred to as such by others.

that is true. just because I am nice to some ladies, doesn't mean I want to have sex or date them.
it annoying. Im just like talking to them (not hitting on them) just a simple ''how are you'' small talk
and they think i am hitting on them.
Ladies, just because a guy comes up to you and want to talk to you doesn't mean he wants to date or have sex with you.

guys acting nice towards women does not always equal he wants to have sex with them.