I feel my realationship with my aspie bf is a rollercoaster

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30 Apr 2013, 1:44 am

Hello friends,
When I first met my bf, in all honestly I didn't even know he has aspergers until he told me
I didn't really know much about it (except for what i've seen from Degrassi episodes)
He seemed (at the time) like he had a pretty normal life (a nice group of friends etc.)
but we have been together for almost a year and mostly I feel like it's going in a downwards spiral
We will have periods in our relationship for like a 2-3 week period in which everything will seem almost perfect and then all of a sudden he will go into this mood thinking everyone hates him at work his friends think he's a looser and I think he's a looser and that he's a bad boyfriend.

I try so had to help him out of these stinks but I just don't know what to say to him anymore
I love him so much and I want this relationship to work
like what can I do?????

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Also as far as our relationship goes, it's loving, whimiscal, and happy go-lucky
we're both in college (he's 21 i'm 19)
we jokingly insult each other at times but Idk could I be secretly hurting his feelings and making him feel worse? should I try to be more sensitive towards him?
Sex is pretty great (tmi *shrugs*)
as far as his friends go...as I said when I FIRST met him he had a nice group of friends
it seems like most, but not all of them have kind of drifted off and doing their own thing (since they're all at different colleges and such)
He has this new small circle but he feels at times they don't really like him and yesterday he told me he "cut them off"
I just really worry about him feeling lonely

He understands that he has me and that i'm there for him at what not but he longs for a group of guy friends

He's also had 2 previous suicide attempts
one before I met him and one back in December...I know he's in a better place since then but should I be worried

and as far as medication goes he's taking I know he's on trazadone



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30 Apr 2013, 3:03 am

Let him post in this thread.



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30 Apr 2013, 5:15 am

depression?



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30 Apr 2013, 8:10 am

Marry him. :lol: He'll still get the doldrums. That's the way he is. It means nothing. It's not the end of your relationship, it's the beginning - that's aspie intimacy. When he gets like that, take him into the bedroom, then go out for dinner. If you really CAN'T stand it, you'll have to break it off because that's him. He may be fishing for compliments as well. Give him lots of compliments. Sometimes they get like this when they suspect you're leaving them or are a bit turned off by them. An NT guy will strive to keep you by dressing "himself" up, buying an expensive car to impress you, etc. The NT male will ENLARGE himself, the aspie will DIMINISH himself.... An aspie predicts the worst, gives up, and starts trying to convince himself that he'a a complete loser and that you have every right to leave him. It comes from his anxiety that the relationship will probabaly end and he wants to get the pain over with already. They may start showering you with gifts too. Aspies get this way also when they're feeling jealous or envious of the NT world - they feel you'll be better off and more entertained in the NT world instead of his aspie world. Love him or leave him - there's no in between. All these crazy behaviors in aspies come from a lack of communication skills. Similar to an infant who cries and howls because an infant can't tell you what he/she wants. An aspie can't tell you either. Most of the time, they're ashamed to tell you. Maybe because as they were growing up, they were told that their feelings were ridiculous, that they didn't know what they were talking about. This very thing is what causes people to start "thinking" their feelings instead of actually feeling them right deep down in their gut. Think about it? When was the last time you rememeber being told, "Gee, so and so, she shouldn't be mad about that." BUT YOU WERE MAD!! ! or you felt jealousy and realized that jealousy is a vice so you convinced yourself you weren't. BUT YOU WERE!! ! My young niece is like this. She'll come from school and she'll start, "People suck!" I have to ask her, "Who?". After constant specific questioning, she'll finally tell me it was down to just one person. We'll discuss it and it gets somewhat cleared up so she can at least eat dinner in peace. An aspie will have a rose thorn stuck in their thumb and tell you their 1,000 different illnesses before YOU finally say, "Would you like me to pull that thorn out of your thumb? THAT is what is hurting you NOW not your 1,000 illnesses." I wish you both the best.



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30 Apr 2013, 8:24 am

Aspie relationships work best when you actually talk out the details.

We can't figure out non-verbal hints--you might as well be talking in some obscure African language. If we could, we wouldn't have a named disability that many people have heard about somewhere.



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30 Apr 2013, 8:43 am

The key thing is to remember that chronic depression is a fact of life for Aspies.

I will say, though, don't try to talk him out of his depression; it won't work. If you can, endure it, and, if he's worth it, try to love him as best you can. He's loving you the best he can.



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30 Apr 2013, 10:28 am

Stalk wrote:
depression?


he does tell me that he fells depressed and bi-polar at times



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30 Apr 2013, 10:29 am

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Marry him. :lol: He'll still get the doldrums. That's the way he is. It means nothing. It's not the end of your relationship, it's the beginning - that's aspie intimacy. When he gets like that, take him into the bedroom, then go out for dinner. If you really CAN'T stand it, you'll have to break it off because that's him. He may be fishing for compliments as well. Give him lots of compliments. Sometimes they get like this when they suspect you're leaving them or are a bit turned off by them. An NT guy will strive to keep you by dressing "himself" up, buying an expensive car to impress you, etc. The NT male will ENLARGE himself, the aspie will DIMINISH himself.... An aspie predicts the worst, gives up, and starts trying to convince himself that he'a a complete loser and that you have every right to leave him. It comes from his anxiety that the relationship will probabaly end and he wants to get the pain over with already. They may start showering you with gifts too. Aspies get this way also when they're feeling jealous or envious of the NT world - they feel you'll be better off and more entertained in the NT world instead of his aspie world. Love him or leave him - there's no in between. All these crazy behaviors in aspies come from a lack of communication skills. Similar to an infant who cries and howls because an infant can't tell you what he/she wants. An aspie can't tell you either. Most of the time, they're ashamed to tell you. Maybe because as they were growing up, they were told that their feelings were ridiculous, that they didn't know what they were talking about. This very thing is what causes people to start "thinking" their feelings instead of actually feeling them right deep down in their gut. Think about it? When was the last time you rememeber being told, "Gee, so and so, she shouldn't be mad about that." BUT YOU WERE MAD!! ! or you felt jealousy and realized that jealousy is a vice so you convinced yourself you weren't. BUT YOU WERE!! ! My young niece is like this. She'll come from school and she'll start, "People suck!" I have to ask her, "Who?". After constant specific questioning, she'll finally tell me it was down to just one person. We'll discuss it and it gets somewhat cleared up so she can at least eat dinner in peace. An aspie will have a rose thorn stuck in their thumb and tell you their 1,000 different illnesses before YOU finally say, "Would you like me to pull that thorn out of your thumb? THAT is what is hurting you NOW not your 1,000 illnesses." I wish you both the best.


wow this is great advice and insight thank you



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30 Apr 2013, 10:41 am

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Marry him. :lol: He'll still get the doldrums. That's the way he is. It means nothing. It's not the end of your relationship, it's the beginning - that's aspie intimacy. When he gets like that, take him into the bedroom, then go out for dinner. If you really CAN'T stand it, you'll have to break it off because that's him. He may be fishing for compliments as well. Give him lots of compliments. Sometimes they get like this when they suspect you're leaving them or are a bit turned off by them. An NT guy will strive to keep you by dressing "himself" up, buying an expensive car to impress you, etc. The NT male will ENLARGE himself, the aspie will DIMINISH himself.... An aspie predicts the worst, gives up, and starts trying to convince himself that he'a a complete loser and that you have every right to leave him. It comes from his anxiety that the relationship will probabaly end and he wants to get the pain over with already. They may start showering you with gifts too. Aspies get this way also when they're feeling jealous or envious of the NT world - they feel you'll be better off and more entertained in the NT world instead of his aspie world. Love him or leave him - there's no in between. All these crazy behaviors in aspies come from a lack of communication skills. Similar to an infant who cries and howls because an infant can't tell you what he/she wants. An aspie can't tell you either. Most of the time, they're ashamed to tell you. Maybe because as they were growing up, they were told that their feelings were ridiculous, that they didn't know what they were talking about. This very thing is what causes people to start "thinking" their feelings instead of actually feeling them right deep down in their gut. Think about it? When was the last time you rememeber being told, "Gee, so and so, she shouldn't be mad about that." BUT YOU WERE MAD!! ! or you felt jealousy and realized that jealousy is a vice so you convinced yourself you weren't. BUT YOU WERE!! ! My young niece is like this. She'll come from school and she'll start, "People suck!" I have to ask her, "Who?". After constant specific questioning, she'll finally tell me it was down to just one person. We'll discuss it and it gets somewhat cleared up so she can at least eat dinner in peace. An aspie will have a rose thorn stuck in their thumb and tell you their 1,000 different illnesses before YOU finally say, "Would you like me to pull that thorn out of your thumb? THAT is what is hurting you NOW not your 1,000 illnesses." I wish you both the best.


I just had to reflect that, it is indeed what I do.



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30 Apr 2013, 10:24 pm

RightGalaxy wrote:
Marry him. :lol: He'll still get the doldrums. That's the way he is. It means nothing. It's not the end of your relationship, it's the beginning - that's aspie intimacy. When he gets like that, take him into the bedroom, then go out for dinner. If you really CAN'T stand it, you'll have to break it off because that's him. He may be fishing for compliments as well. Give him lots of compliments. Sometimes they get like this when they suspect you're leaving them or are a bit turned off by them. An NT guy will strive to keep you by dressing "himself" up, buying an expensive car to impress you, etc. The NT male will ENLARGE himself, the aspie will DIMINISH himself.... An aspie predicts the worst, gives up, and starts trying to convince himself that he'a a complete loser and that you have every right to leave him. It comes from his anxiety that the relationship will probabaly end and he wants to get the pain over with already. They may start showering you with gifts too. Aspies get this way also when they're feeling jealous or envious of the NT world - they feel you'll be better off and more entertained in the NT world instead of his aspie world. Love him or leave him - there's no in between. All these crazy behaviors in aspies come from a lack of communication skills. Similar to an infant who cries and howls because an infant can't tell you what he/she wants. An aspie can't tell you either. Most of the time, they're ashamed to tell you. Maybe because as they were growing up, they were told that their feelings were ridiculous, that they didn't know what they were talking about. This very thing is what causes people to start "thinking" their feelings instead of actually feeling them right deep down in their gut. Think about it? When was the last time you rememeber being told, "Gee, so and so, she shouldn't be mad about that." BUT YOU WERE MAD!! ! or you felt jealousy and realized that jealousy is a vice so you convinced yourself you weren't. BUT YOU WERE!! ! My young niece is like this. She'll come from school and she'll start, "People suck!" I have to ask her, "Who?". After constant specific questioning, she'll finally tell me it was down to just one person. We'll discuss it and it gets somewhat cleared up so she can at least eat dinner in peace. An aspie will have a rose thorn stuck in their thumb and tell you their 1,000 different illnesses before YOU finally say, "Would you like me to pull that thorn out of your thumb? THAT is what is hurting you NOW not your 1,000 illnesses." I wish you both the best.


Is me.



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01 May 2013, 1:13 am

BTDT wrote:
Aspie relationships work best when you actually talk out the details.

We can't figure out non-verbal hints--you might as well be talking in some obscure African language. If we could, we wouldn't have a named disability that many people have heard about somewhere.


i'm in a new relationship and this works the best for us. i am really beginning to enjoy talking out the details. but beware, not to get emotional (my stuff), because sometimes, when talking details, some information will come out that is truth and may hurt! for example: my bf texted me that all i have is money and no hobbies. it felt like he did not respect me (and made me emotional), but it is the fact. we talked about it during our AAR (after action review) and before i defended myself--which is what he was used to me doing--i told him i was hurt by his statement because it was true. he was merely making an observation.

(there is more to me than money and no hobbies, btw =])



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01 May 2013, 3:15 am

aspiegf2012 wrote:
...I think he's a loser and that he's a bad boyfriend.
*snip*
I love him so much and I want this relationship to work


Um... that's a pretty strong flip-flop there...

Can you really handle those moments when cruel people are getting him down in the dumps - or will you join the circle around him and add to the chorus of "loo-zerr! loo-zerr!"

Really dig deep into that one... will you help him up - or push him down?

If you choose to help him up, try to make sure you keep it in your head you chose to and it's a good thing! If he has half a brain, he'll really admire you for staying by your side when others turn on him!

The world can be very cruel - especially to someone even slightly "socially awkward". If you're one of the "good ones", he'll probably be your biggest fan for life. ;)



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01 May 2013, 3:34 am

Great stuff here. May I continue to add to this thread by asking what if the AS partner is depressed about something he/she can't control(ie. Grades that were Bad, financial status, perhaps even apearance) that they dwell and complain about it and can't seem to believe others around them? What is the best thing to do other than convince them about the positives?


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01 May 2013, 4:13 am

BlueMax wrote:
aspiegf2012 wrote:
...I think he's a loser and that he's a bad boyfriend.
*snip*
I love him so much and I want this relationship to work


Um... that's a pretty strong flip-flop there...

Can you really handle those moments when cruel people are getting him down in the dumps - or will you join the circle around him and add to the chorus of "loo-zerr! loo-zerr!"

Really dig deep into that one... will you help him up - or push him down?

If you choose to help him up, try to make sure you keep it in your head you chose to and it's a good thing! If he has half a brain, he'll really admire you for staying by your side when others turn on him!

The world can be very cruel - especially to someone even slightly "socially awkward". If you're one of the "good ones", he'll probably be your biggest fan for life. ;)


I'm pretty sure she isn't saying that ... HE is. He thinks he's a loser and that he's a bad boyfriend. She is just repeating what he said.



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01 May 2013, 4:30 am

Colton wrote:
I'm pretty sure she isn't saying that ... HE is. He thinks he's a loser and that he's a bad boyfriend. She is just repeating what he said.


Very good point... the way it's written is unclear and could mean either one. I'm hoping she's shown him enough support that he wouldn't feel she thinks poorly of him, but depression can overpower all reason if left unchecked.



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01 May 2013, 5:28 pm

BlueMax wrote:
aspiegf2012 wrote:
...I think he's a loser and that he's a bad boyfriend.
*snip*
I love him so much and I want this relationship to work


Um... that's a pretty strong flip-flop there...

Can you really handle those moments when cruel people are getting him down in the dumps - or will you join the circle around him and add to the chorus of "loo-zerr! loo-zerr!"

Really dig deep into that one... will you help him up - or push him down?

If you choose to help him up, try to make sure you keep it in your head you chose to and it's a good thing! If he has half a brain, he'll really admire you for staying by your side when others turn on him!

The world can be very cruel - especially to someone even slightly "socially awkward". If you're one of the "good ones", he'll probably be your biggest fan for life. ;)


HE thinks that I think he's a loser and a bad boyfriend